Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin??

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I thought I would begin a discussion about the dynamics of Jan's obsession with Ritalin.
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Truly, I did not realise how expert one could become, on an infinite variety of subjects, in just a
few short years on usenet. I wonder if Jan has an offshore degree program up and running yet?

carabelli

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Subject: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin??
From: Rich ,@.
Date: 12/26/2003 3:44 PM Pacific Standard Time
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excellent Rich!! and well stated

each time I read Jan the know nothing rant on and on about stuff she barely reads and surely cannot
understand....I shake my head in wonder at what a fool she is making of herself..

again and again..my answer to her is "what business is it to YOU what folks do with their kids..re
Ritalin,,vaccinations and every other thing she takes off on..

her lack of a general knowledge base in medicine and physiology is so apparent that I feel sorry for
her..as so many simply laugh at her ....and she responds,,as we all say..with insults and comments
about "our egos"...if it wasn't so pathetic it might be funny

Jan Drew is truly a "wannabe something" yet continues to embarrass herself

sad that hawki

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Subject: Re: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin??
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Date: 12/26/2003 7:31 PM Central Standard Time
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Subject: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin?? From: Rich ,@. Date: 12/26/2003 3:44 PM Pacific
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excellent Rich!! and well stated

Oh yeah.

Hawki believes all your lies, why am I not surprised.

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again and again..my answer to her is "what business is it to YOU what folks do with their kids..re
Ritalin,,vaccinations and every other thing she takes off on..

It WAS my business!!! Get clue about directing daycare centers.

Jan

She does it to take a cheap shot at Mark P trying to make him feel guilty. She could care less about
the emotional pain and suffering of little children and their families. She has become what she
hates...evil.

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Subject: Re: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin?? From: [email hidden] (Hawki63) Date:
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Subject: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin?? From: Rich ,@. Date: 12/26/2003 3:44 PM
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excellent Rich!! and well stated

Oh yeah.

Hawki believes all your lies, why am I not surprised.

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again and again..my answer to her is "what business is it to YOU what

folks

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do with their kids..re Ritalin,,vaccinations and every other thing she takes

off

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on..

It WAS my business!!! Get clue about directing daycare centers.

Jan

Good point Jan. I will carefully check out the day care centre I put my girl in. You have shown well
that any know-nothing idiot can get a day care licence. I feel less secure knowing that.

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Subject: Re: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin??
From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Date: 12/26/2003 6:03 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Janny says:

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Hawki believes all your lies, why am I not surprised.

Hawki has her own brain and established medical education base...you simply cut and paste...rarely
even reading the drivel...and NEVER understanding the words you DO read..

sad that

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It WAS my business!!! Get clue about directing daycare centers.

no no it was NONE of your business...you could have not accepted or kept kids you didn't want...on
the other hand you have NO legal or medical right to babble on about what kids did to YOUR
business...

"directing daycare"..ie babysitting

luckily you lost your license..

good that

what a maroon

hawki

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Subject: Re: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin??
From: [email hidden] (Hawki63)
Date: 12/27/2003 12:50 AM Central Standard Time
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Subject: Re: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin?? From: [email hidden] (Jan) Date:
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Janny says:

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Hawki believes all your lies, why am I not surprised.

Hawki has her own brain and established medical education base..

Everyone has a brain. Yours isn't any better than anothers.

You show a lot of arrogance as well as [censored], lying, insulting and belittling

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.you simply cut and paste...rarely even reading the drivel...and NEVER understanding the words you
DO read..

Point made!

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sad that

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It WAS my business!!! Get clue about directing daycare centers.

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no no it was NONE of your business..

Wrong, it was my responsibilty to make sure all kids had their shots.

.you could have not accepted or kept kids

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you didn't want..

I had no desire to discriminate. all kids are special and I had a waiting list.

.on the other hand you have NO legal or medical right to

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babble on about what kids did to to YOUR business...

Say what?? Kids did to my business??What are you talking about?? I had the medical responsibility to
make sure all kids had their shots, that means keeping after the parents to get them.

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"directing daycare"..ie babysitting

It is plain you don't have a clue. Educational classes including kindergarten. Planning all kinds of
activites, field trips, directing my employees and maintance of the building code.Purchasing visual
aids and learning toys, Planning menues, going by state guidelines, is a far cry from babysitting.

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luckily you lost your license..

You are a liar, I did not lose my license.

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good that

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what a maroon

Get a clue.

I don't have time for trolls who only wqnt to [censored]. You and Rich would make a good pair.

PLONK!

Jan

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Subject: Re: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin?? From: "Doug"
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>Subject: Re: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin?? From: [email hidden] (Hawki63)
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>>Subject: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin?? From: Rich ,@. Date: 12/26/2003 3:44 PM
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>excellent Rich!! and well stated

Oh yeah.

Hawki believes all your lies, why am I not surprised.

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>again and again..my answer to her is "what business is it to YOU what

folks

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>do with their kids..re Ritalin,,vaccinations and every other thing she

takes

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off

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It WAS my business!!! Get clue about directing daycare centers.

Jan

Good point Jan. I will carefully check out the day care centre I put my girl in.

Indeed, very carefully.

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You have shown well that any know-nothing idiot can get a day care

licence.

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I feel less secure knowing that.

You have always been nothing but a troll. If fact good quality daycares

are

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hard to find, and I had one of the best. The morals of the owner director

are

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of utmost importance.

You have not a clue as to what it takes to be licensed if one doesn't play

the

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dirty tricks of paying off the inspectors.

Jan

You paid off the inspectors?

I knew you were bad, but that suprised me.

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"No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

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Subject: Re: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin??
From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Date: 12/26/2003 11:55 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Everyone has a brain. Yours isn't any better than anothers.

perhaps not "better"...but filled with more facts...definitely more reasoning abilities?? and you
left out "my established medical education base"

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You show a lot of arrogance as well as [censored], lying, insulting and belittling

I learned it all from YOU..... hawki

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Subject: Re: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin??
From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Date: 12/26/2003 11:55 PM Pacific Standard Time
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.you simply cut

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and paste...rarely even reading the drivel...and NEVER understanding the words you DO read..

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Point made!

Janny poo....it has been pointed out to you many many many times that so much of what you post
simply does NOT prove your point....in fact...so much of what you post is either....from non
reliable sources or have nothing to do at all with your topic that it is laughable...that is where
the medical education "brain" comes into play....extrapolating facts into theories...and being able
to see the flaws....NOT simply copying some drivel...

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Wrong, it was my responsibilty to make sure all kids had their shots.

again....if you didn't THINK the kid needed the shot (not that YOU have a right to decide such
things)...your "right" was to simply NOT take kids on meds you felt were not needed...use the
waiting list..and get in more kids for you to
f.ck up

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I had no desire to discriminate. all kids are special and I had a waiting list.

what a crock of bull!!! You WERE discriminating by deciding in your pea brain what meds and shots
were or were not necessary..you can do that with your OWN kids..but not other parent's kids..

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I had the medical responsibility to make sure all kids had their shots, that means keeping after
the parents to get them.

bs...you have "NO medical responsibility" to do any such thing.....actually even schools do
not...all a parent has to do is turn the form over and write "refused" ...."keeping after the
parents"...what a big empty head you have

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Educational classes including kindergarten.

oh...so you are a credentialed teacher with 4+ years of college and a credential??

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Planning all kinds of activites, field trips, directing my employees and maintance of the building
code.Purchasing visual aids and

OK.."glorified babysitting"

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You are a liar, I did not lose my license.

wait,,,,you called me a liar!!! I thought that was against your rules..

if you didn't lose your license,,you should have...but then I know how EASY it is to get a
license!!!!

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I don't have time for trolls who only wqnt to [censored]. You and Rich would make a good pair.

PLONK!

Jan

"troll??"" how funny...you do that to all the educated and experienced that don't buy your
[censored].... hawki

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From: [email hidden] (Hawki63)
Date: 12/27/2003 12:24 PM Central Standard Time
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Wrong, it was my responsibilty to make sure all kids had their shots.

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again....if you didn't THINK the kid needed the shot (not that YOU have a right to decide such
things)..

There are state regulations to be followed, it appears you haven't a clue.

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.your "right" was to simply NOT take kids on meds you felt were not needed..

Kids were NOT enrolled based on thier medications.

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use the waiting list..and get in more kids for you to
f.ck up

WOW, you are a very sweet person. You medical education made you into a bitter old hag, with a
filthy mouth.

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I had no desire to discriminate. all kids are special and I had a waiting list.

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what a crock of bull!!!

Sorry you feel that way.

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You WERE discriminating by deciding in your pea brain what meds and shots were or were not
necessary..

WHERE DID YOU GET THAT IDEA???????

I had to make sure they had all their shots, I have nothing whatsoever to do with making decisions
about meds or shots.

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you can do that with your OWN kids..but not other parent's kids..

That was never in question, you have entirely the wrong idea, in your quest to be a [censored].

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I had the

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medical responsibility to make sure all kids had their shots, that means keeping after the parents
to get them.

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bs...you have "NO medical responsibility" to do any such thing.....actually even schools do
not...all a parent has to do is turn the form over and write "refused" ...."keeping after the
parents"...what a big empty head you have

Upon inspection, if a child was not updated on their shots, I didn't get a license. Therefore it wss
MY JOB to keep reminding the parents to get it done.

You are way off base as usual.

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Educational classes including kindergarten.

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oh...so you are a credentialed teacher with 4+ years of college and a credential??

It is none of your business what I have. You know nothing about daycare centers. My teachers all had
degrees, one having a two year degree, with one half of the day in class and the other half with the
kids. She was the best teacher I ever had.

Our kindergarten class was indeed certified. What's more every first grade teacher knew which kids
were in my kindergarten because they were advanced above the public kindergarten kids.

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Planning all kinds of activites, field trips, directing my employees and maintance of the building
code.Purchasing visual aids and

OK.."glorified babysitting"

Hardly.

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You are a liar, I did not lose my license.

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wait,,,,you called me a liar!!! I thought that was against your rules..

It appears you are lost.

You get the strangest ideas.

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if you didn't lose your license,,you should have.

You have not a clue.

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but then I know how EASY it is to get a license!!!!

You know very little, you are aout of your league. I pity anyone who gets you as their nurse.

You wouldn't have lasted ten minutes at my profession with your stinkin attitude.

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I don't have time for trolls who only wqnt to [censored]. You and Rich would make a good pair.

PLONK!

Jan

On 27 Dec 2003 06:30:54 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan) wrote:

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You have shown well that any know-nothing idiot can get a day care licence.
I feel less secure knowing that.

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You have always been nothing but a troll. If fact good quality daycares are hard to find, and I had
one of the best. The morals of the owner director are of utmost importance.

You have not a clue as to what it takes to be licensed if one doesn't play the dirty tricks of
paying off the inspectors.

Jan

Jan Drew says :

"the morals of the owner ... are of utmost importance"
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Jan Drew is, as is proven many times, a liar. Now this liar claims that "the morals of the owner ...
are of utmost importance"

Well, it is for sure, that the morals of a daycare owner are of utmost importance. So, would a liar
as Jan Drew be a good choice...?

Jan Drew says :

The owners "play the dirty tricks of paying off the
*************************************##########****
inspectors"...
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Jan Drew, the liar and forger, claims to be a white raven, claims NOT to have done this :

The owners "play the dirty tricks of paying off the
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inspectors"...
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This is the very same Jan Drew, who persuades parents not to have their children vaccinated.
Vaccination saves lives. What drives Jan Drew to hate children so much, that he tries to get them
killed by avoidable infectuous diseases !?

And now THIS VERY JAN DREW claims NOT to have done this :

The owners "play the dirty tricks of paying off the
*************************************##########****
inspectors"...
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What is worth more, the word of a liar who walks over the bodies of children, or the word of the
very same liar who claims not to have paid off inspectors ?

It would be very interesting to hear the voices of the parents of the children who were in the
alledged daycare center(s). And the voices of the children...

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
--
World Conference "Health Care Systems: Public and Private Management"

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Poor Mark, decide to post here rather than under Reporting Adverse Reactions to Meds??

No wonder you remain so confused.

No, I posted here because you did not respond to my last posting in the previous thread.

I've asked you to show me one of these lies you claim I made, but you have yet to do so.

Your last posting contained statements that you marked off with stars (****). Do you claim that
those statements are lies from me? Most of those statements marked with stars are not even
statements I made. A lot of them are from Christian Drapeau (then of Cell Tech) referring to me or
things I said. Surely you cannot count a statement made by somebody other than me as an example of a
lie that I told?

Some of those starred statements were made by you! Surely you cannot use statements that you made as
examples of lies that I told, can you? That seems so unfair. )-;

Of the statements I made, none of them are false, therefore they cannot be lies. Take for example:

**During the last several years, I have from time to time posted to this and other newsgroups a file
of information called "An Anatoxin-a Primer." I now retract the statements made in the Anatoxin-a
Primer. ***

That's a quote of statements I made, but surely you're not suggesting that this quoted passage
itself contains a lie, are you?

I'm saying I posted a file (true), and that I'm now retracting it (also true).

Nothing in the quoted passage was untrue, right?

Therefore nothing in the quoted passage was a lie, right?

Now as regarding the statements _referred_to_ by the quoted passage, I'm not aware of any that are
false or untrue. You did not quote from any of the statements in the file referred to by the quoted
passage. How odd. That file is easily available, and it apparently (according to you) contains lies,
but you do not quote directly from it when asked for an example of one of my (alleged) lies.

How very very odd.

Why is that?

Is it because there are no lies in that file?

If you disagree, let's see that statement.

Let's see an example of one of these lies.

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Subject: Re: Why does Jan Drew obsess about Ritalin??
From: [email hidden] (Jan)
Date: 12/27/2003 11:28 AM Pacific Standard Time
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It is none of your business what I have. You know nothing about daycare

but I KNOW you never finished high school...so can be sure you never even started college..

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My teachers all had degrees, one having a two year degree, with on

OK so "all had degrees" yet only ONE had a two year degree??HMMM

so the "others" had LESS than two years?? what state again credentials "teachers" with either one or
two years ONLY of education?? none that I know of..

in fact...a one year "degree" is probably a certificate of some kind..one is NOT taught education of
pre schoolers in ONE or even TWO years....hmmmm ...my grandchildren attend preschools where ALL
teachers have at least a bachelor's degree...PLUS a teaching credentials..let's see...5 years as
compared to YOUR crew with 1....or 2 years (and only one with 2 years....)...again..those are not
"early education" teachers,,but glorified babysitters..

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She was the best teacher I ever had.

you wouldn't have the knowledge base to judge what a good teacher is....you,,a high school dropout..

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Our kindergarten class was indeed certified. What's more every first gra

you mean taught by the ONE teacher with the 2 years of education??? not even a bachelor's degree??

my 4 year old grandkids can already read,,and write...

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You know very little, you are aout of your league. I pity anyone who gets you as their nurse.

funny you should mention being "out of a league"....you are lecturing a master's degreed nurse!!!
no..guess I wouldn't last in your "profession"...by the way.."profession" implies formal collegiate
education...you don't fit the qualifications..

again...you call me a [censored] when I point out the stories you tell....yikes lady..give it a rest...

wannabe hawki