Why do people fear-monger Low-carb?

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I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone

I

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speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Eddie,

You knkow, it's the funniest thing, the people who are the most skeptical,
are the ones who know the least about the diet. (Or so it seems to me.)
It's alwaus "but a pound of bacon???" or "you're going to have kidney
failure!". I look at this a couple of ways. First, I have NEVER eaten a
pound of bacon. Secondly, from reading the book, and hearing other people's
testimonies, I have never seen anyone with kidney problems. People make up
what they want, especially when they lack the knowledge.

Otherwise, good luck!

Ken.
320 / 245.5 / 180 6"0
Started 4/5/04

Eddie Type 2 wrote:
|| Hi All,
||
|| As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am only 5'5 and weigh in at
|| 338 lbs. and have type 2 diabetes.

Congratulations. You've found the right place to hang out!

||
|| I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and
|| everyone I speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Tell them to mind their own beeswax.

||
|| Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁
||

Don't believe it. There are many people here who have turned their lives
around after finding LC. To many, it seems like a true miracle.

|| It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb
|| craze hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a
|| good portion of the population believes that a low-carb life style
|| is healthy and OK to do?

It is healthy. What you were eating that brought you to this point is what
is unhealthy.

||
|| Any comments to lift my spirits would be appreciated.
||

Study and educate yourself. You will soon be able to counter the nonsense
that people will spew in your direction. Moreover, once you start dropping
the pounds, looking better and feeling better, and getting of any meds, they
will realize what nonsense they were full of.

Have you started your walking program yet, assuming you're able?

Quoted message said:

I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone I
speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

And, of course, those same people wouldn't say a word if you ate a burger,
fries and soda. But somehow, if you reject the bun, eat a salad instead of
fries, and drink water instead of soda, you're eating dangerously, and may drop
dead.
LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/177/140
& hubby- 6' 310/195/180
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lcer09/my_photos

Eddie Type 2 said:

Hi All,

As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am only 5'5 and weigh in at 338 lbs.
and have type 2 diabetes.

I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone I
speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb craze
hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a good portion of
the population believes that a low-carb life style is healthy and OK to do?

Any comments to lift my spirits would be appreciated.

Eddie
338/333/180

Peoople tend to malign many things they don't understand.

People tend to hate things that force a change of belief onto them.

This isn't limited to "stupid" people, and even the relatively educated
may have to work a little or a lot to avoid automatic rejections and
automatic negative reactions to things that are somewhat different.

Many have been brainwashed into "Cholesterol Will Kill YOu---- Don't you
dare eat it".

Many others have been brainwashed by "FAT is BAD for you".

Atkins goes against this brainwashing.

Atkins will therefore generate disgusting negative reactions amongst the
brainwashed.

IT is perhaps better to change friends than to waste time trying to
educate them.

These people are reacting to protect their beliefs, not to really do you
any good.

But, they will deny this, of course.

Jim

Eddie Type 2 said:

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb craze
hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a good portion of
the population believes that a low-carb life style is healthy and OK to do?

Just have them explain the diet to you, and then you'll realize they're
full of [censored]. Chances are, they'll tell you it's a no-carb diet or that
you stay on induction forever, that you can't eat fruits and vegetables,
that you can only eat meat, eggs and cheese, etc. 99% of the critics are
clueless about what the diet actually IS. Even so called professionals
rip the diet obviously without having ever read the book.
--
LCing since 7/10/04 - 6'3" 230/225/190

"I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door.
You're the one that has to walk through it."

Now playing: "King Crimson - Red"

All the 'everyone' group that is discouraging you are idiots, though
well intentioned they might be. They are also not your friends as
they seem to prefer you die an early death from obesity.

Eddie Type 2 said:

Hi All,

As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am only 5'5 and weigh in at 338 lbs.
and have type 2 diabetes.

I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone I
speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb craze
hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a good portion of
the population believes that a low-carb life style is healthy and OK to do?

Any comments to lift my spirits would be appreciated.

Eddie
338/333/180

Eddie,

I just went to a reunion of some people I have known since back in the
1970s. Two women there who had been fat the entire time I knew them looked
spectacular. I asked what happened, and the answer from both was "low carb."
One of these women had never been able to lose any weight ever before, not
even in a yo-yo mode.

There has been a huge amount of poor science cited to claim that low carbing
is dangerous. None of it has held up to the new onslaught of research
published over the past 3 years. Well-conducted research shows low carbing
improves cardiovascular risk factors and controls diabetic blood sugars
better than any drug.

Unfortunately, some of the resistance is from organizations like the
American Diabetes Association, and the American Dietetic Association who
have been giving out dangerously flawed diet information for a generation.
If they admit their recommended diets have been worsening disease all this
time, they are in huge trouble to say nothing of potential lawsuits.

There's also been a slew of news articles from a vegetarian front
organization whose doctors make exaggerated claims about the harmful effects
of the diet. Papers and TV stations do not do the research needed to see if
what these doctors claim is true. It is not.

You can read the research studies that back low carbing's healthfulness
yourself at http://www.lowcarbresearch.org/lcr/lce_results.asp There is
some new stuff that hadn't made it onto her page last time I checked too.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Blood Sugar
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

"Eddie Type 2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi All,

As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am only 5'5 and weigh in at 338

lbs.

Quoted message said:

and have type 2 diabetes.

I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone

I

Quoted message said:

speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb craze
hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a good portion

of

Quoted message said:

the population believes that a low-carb life style is healthy and OK to

do?

Quoted message said:

Any comments to lift my spirits would be appreciated.

Eddie
338/333/180

jbuch wrote:
:: Eddie Type 2 wrote:
::
::: Hi All,
:::
::: As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am only 5'5 and weigh in at
::: 338 lbs. and have type 2 diabetes.
:::
::: I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and
::: everyone I speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!
:::
::: Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁
:::
::: It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb
::: craze hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a
::: good portion of the population believes that a low-carb life style
::: is healthy and OK to do?
:::
::: Any comments to lift my spirits would be appreciated.
:::
::: Eddie
::: 338/333/180
:::
:::
::
:: Peoople tend to malign many things they don't understand.
::
:: People tend to hate things that force a change of belief onto them.
::
:: This isn't limited to "stupid" people, and even the relatively
:: educated may have to work a little or a lot to avoid automatic
:: rejections and automatic negative reactions to things that are
:: somewhat different.
::
:: Many have been brainwashed into "Cholesterol Will Kill YOu---- Don't
:: you dare eat it".
::
:: Many others have been brainwashed by "FAT is BAD for you".
::
:: Atkins goes against this brainwashing.
::
:: Atkins will therefore generate disgusting negative reactions amongst
:: the brainwashed.
::
:: IT is perhaps better to change friends than to waste time trying to
:: educate them.

Man - I was tracking you 100% until you got to this line! Change friends?
NO WAY. Show them with success! Be a leader - unafraid to stand alone and
brave new ground.

::
:: These people are reacting to protect their beliefs, not to really do
:: you any good.
::
:: But, they will deny this, of course.
::
:: Jim

"Eddie Type 2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Hi All,

As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am only 5'5 and weigh in at 338 lbs.
and have type 2 diabetes.

I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone I
speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb craze
hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a good portion of
the population believes that a low-carb life style is healthy and OK to do?

Any comments to lift my spirits would be appreciated.

Eddie
338/333/180

Why is low-carb being attacked?

Low carb goes counter to the current science. Just try to get a
scientist with an advanced degree to admit that they are wrong their
entire careers.

Kellogg's, et al, will lose billions on their refined grain products.

Pharmaceutical companies will lose billions on drug sales with a
healthier population.

Coke, Pepsi, etc stand to lose more billions.

Sugar is cheap and food manufacturere will lose a lot of business if
people start paying attention to sugar content of foods. The sugar
industry has made billions since the 70's and the introduction of
cheap high-fructose corn syrup.

Food industry and pharma industry pretty much own most universities
(thru massive grants) and can get them to say pretty much anything
they want them to say. It is estimated that 70 to 80 percent of all
research in the US is industry funded.

The American Diabetes Assoc., The heart and stroke association, and
most major "non-profits" like these have accepted millions in
sponsorship from pharma and food industry. They will never have
anything good to say about low-carb regardless of the real health
benefits. You can check this out by going to their websites and
finding their corporate sponsorship page. Most US non-profits are
surprisingly up front about their corporate sponsorship. In Canada and
the UK, they tend to not show this info. Obviously in Canada and the
UK the populations are a bit more sensitive and has a better
understanding of conflict of interests.

Oh yeah, then we have the PETA, the anti-animal-eating crowd that uses
their sister organisation, the Physicians Committee for Responsible
Medicine, to push their vegan agenda. They pretend to have science
behind them and some people believe it because of their
official-sounding name. All they are is domestic animal-rights
terrorists.

Just a few of the reasons.

TC

Eddie Type 2 said:

Hi All,

Quoted message said:

As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am only 5'5 and weigh in at 338 lbs.
and have type 2 diabetes.

Quoted message said:

I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone I
speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Quoted message said:

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

Quoted message said:

It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb craze
hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a good portion of
the population believes that a low-carb life style is healthy and OK to do?

Quoted message said:

Any comments to lift my spirits would be appreciated.

Quoted message said:

Eddie
338/333/180

First of all, welcome, future former fat guy, from an almost former fat
guy ;-)

Your two greatest weapons are 1) knowledge and 2) a fanatical devotion to
your health.

Read up and learn to uses phrases like "Research indicates otherwise.
Which studies are you referring to?" I find this really helps shut up the
people who just have fourth- and fifth-hand information and have swallowed
others' predigested opinions.

Furthermore, as you read, you'll find that Atkins LC isn't "this latest
low-carb craze". His diet has been around since the 70s. And others go
back into the previous century. It's only recently been coming into the
general consciousness, largely AS A RESULT OF RESEARCH that came out
confirming its benefits. The lastest flurry of attention began with a
story that 'broke' in the New York Times and has been gathering steam ever
since as more research has come out and companies suddenly discover a
profitable market segment.

Carb control for diabetes is pretty much a no-brainer. No doubt your
doctor has told you as much. Use this with the naysayers. This isn't
really something they can argue with.

Finally, in the words of Harlan Ellison, "Not everyone is entitled to an
opinion. They are only entitled to an informed opinion." If you were
taking up stamp-collecting because you thought it was fun and you had a
lot of people who know nothing about stamps or collecting tell you that it
was a boring hobby and a waste of money, would you listen to them? Of
course not.

Good luck, and hang in there.

Dan
325/211/180
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

Stay scared and stay fat. It's your funeral and it's not like there's not
enough people in the world already.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Eddie Type 2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi All,

As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am only 5'5 and weigh in at 338

lbs.

Quoted message said:

and have type 2 diabetes.

I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone

I

Quoted message said:

speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb craze
hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a good portion

of

Quoted message said:

the population believes that a low-carb life style is healthy and OK to

do?

Quoted message said:

Any comments to lift my spirits would be appreciated.

Eddie
338/333/180

good point!

Eddie
Type 2

"LCer09" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone

I

Quoted message said:

speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

And, of course, those same people wouldn't say a word if you ate a burger,
fries and soda. But somehow, if you reject the bun, eat a salad instead of
fries, and drink water instead of soda, you're eating dangerously, and may
drop
dead.
LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/177/140
& hubby- 6' 310/195/180
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lcer09/my_photos

Thanks for your comments Roger..........I can walk for about 5 minutes and
then my back hurts...........trying my best and also treading water every
day in the pool for about 30 minutes.........

Eddie
Type 2

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Eddie Type 2 wrote:
|| Hi All,
||
|| As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am only 5'5 and weigh in at
|| 338 lbs. and have type 2 diabetes.

Congratulations. You've found the right place to hang out!

||
|| I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and
|| everyone I speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Tell them to mind their own beeswax.

||
|| Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁
||

Don't believe it. There are many people here who have turned their lives
around after finding LC. To many, it seems like a true miracle.

|| It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb
|| craze hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a
|| good portion of the population believes that a low-carb life style
|| is healthy and OK to do?

It is healthy. What you were eating that brought you to this point is what
is unhealthy.

||
|| Any comments to lift my spirits would be appreciated.
||

Study and educate yourself. You will soon be able to counter the nonsense
that people will spew in your direction. Moreover, once you start dropping
the pounds, looking better and feeling better, and getting of any meds, they
will realize what nonsense they were full of.

Have you started your walking program yet, assuming you're able?

Thanks Ken

--
Eddie
Type 2
"Kenneth Williams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone

I

Quoted message said:

speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Eddie,

You knkow, it's the funniest thing, the people who are the most skeptical,
are the ones who know the least about the diet. (Or so it seems to me.)
It's alwaus "but a pound of bacon???" or "you're going to have kidney
failure!". I look at this a couple of ways. First, I have NEVER eaten a
pound of bacon. Secondly, from reading the book, and hearing other people's
testimonies, I have never seen anyone with kidney problems. People make up
what they want, especially when they lack the knowledge.

Otherwise, good luck!

Ken.
320 / 245.5 / 180 6"0
Started 4/5/04

I think you are right Tarkus.................they just don't understand!
Thanks for your comments....

Eddie
Type 2
"Tarkus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Eddie Type 2 said:

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb craze
hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a good portion

of

Quoted message said:

the population believes that a low-carb life style is healthy and OK to

do?

Just have them explain the diet to you, and then you'll realize they're
full of [censored]. Chances are, they'll tell you it's a no-carb diet or that
you stay on induction forever, that you can't eat fruits and vegetables,
that you can only eat meat, eggs and cheese, etc. 99% of the critics are
clueless about what the diet actually IS. Even so called professionals
rip the diet obviously without having ever read the book.
--
LCing since 7/10/04 - 6'3" 230/225/190

"I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door.
You're the one that has to walk through it."

Now playing: "King Crimson - Red"

Actually, the one person I had the most trouble with was pushing me the
Weight watchers diet and it was hard to rebut her.........

Eddie
Type 2

"PJx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

All the 'everyone' group that is discouraging you are idiots, though
well intentioned they might be. They are also not your friends as
they seem to prefer you die an early death from obesity.

Eddie Type 2 said:

Hi All,

As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am only 5'5 and weigh in at 338 lbs.
and have type 2 diabetes.

I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone

I

Quoted message said:

speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb craze
hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a good portion of
the population believes that a low-carb life style is healthy and OK to do?

Any comments to lift my spirits would be appreciated.

Eddie
338/333/180

Thanks Jenny............my BG readings haven't been better!!!!!!Same goes
for my FBG readings!!!!.... so I am sticking with this regardless of what
others say!

Eddie
Type 2

"Jenny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Eddie,

I just went to a reunion of some people I have known since back in the
1970s. Two women there who had been fat the entire time I knew them looked
spectacular. I asked what happened, and the answer from both was "low carb."
One of these women had never been able to lose any weight ever before, not
even in a yo-yo mode.

There has been a huge amount of poor science cited to claim that low carbing
is dangerous. None of it has held up to the new onslaught of research
published over the past 3 years. Well-conducted research shows low carbing
improves cardiovascular risk factors and controls diabetic blood sugars
better than any drug.

Unfortunately, some of the resistance is from organizations like the
American Diabetes Association, and the American Dietetic Association who
have been giving out dangerously flawed diet information for a generation.
If they admit their recommended diets have been worsening disease all this
time, they are in huge trouble to say nothing of potential lawsuits.

There's also been a slew of news articles from a vegetarian front
organization whose doctors make exaggerated claims about the harmful effects
of the diet. Papers and TV stations do not do the research needed to see if
what these doctors claim is true. It is not.

You can read the research studies that back low carbing's healthfulness
yourself at http://www.lowcarbresearch.org/lcr/lce_results.asp There is
some new stuff that hadn't made it onto her page last time I checked too.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Blood Sugar
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

"Eddie Type 2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi All,

As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am only 5'5 and weigh in at 338

lbs.

Quoted message said:

and have type 2 diabetes.

I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone

I

Quoted message said:

speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb craze
hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a good portion

of

Quoted message said:

the population believes that a low-carb life style is healthy and OK to

do?

Quoted message said:

Any comments to lift my spirits would be appreciated.

Eddie
338/333/180

You have found the diet that's right for you. You don't even need to tell your
friends that you're eating low carb, just tell them that you're giving up sugar
and you've decided to replace all your pasta/rice/cakes/pies/bread/potatoes in
your diet with GREEN LEAFY vegetables because you want to up your vitamins
intake. Invent a strange hate towards carrots, eat only a little bit of
tomatoes and then you're sorted. When you're couple dozens of pounds off, then
come clean and tell your friends the truth. I understand that introducing new
changes in your diet and lifestyle takes lots of learning and concentration,
which is why I recommend that you hide the fact that you're low carbing so that
you can better direct your energy into adopting the changes rather than waste in
on explaining/debating/defending your diet.

Exercising often lift my spirits. Put on your swimming trunks and join me in
the pool...

Eddie Type 2 said:

Hi All,

As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am only 5'5 and weigh in at 338 lbs.
and have type 2 diabetes.

I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone I
speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb craze
hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a good portion of
the population believes that a low-carb life style is healthy and OK to do?

Any comments to lift my spirits would be appreciated.

Eddie
338/333/180

I disagree with that. It's likely that these people are genuinely
concerned, but they're just ignorant.

In article <[email hidden]>,

PJx said:

All the 'everyone' group that is discouraging you are idiots, though
well intentioned they might be. They are also not your friends as
they seem to prefer you die an early death from obesity.

Eddie Type 2 said:

Hi All,

As I've mentioned in previous posts, I am only 5'5 and weigh in at 338 lbs.
and have type 2 diabetes.

I started low-carbing this week (I'm only on day 6 right now) and everyone I
speak to is trying to discourage me from doing so!

Just about every one says that's it's dangerous for me to do this 🙁

It's really bringing me down......but surely this latest low-carb craze
hitting North-America certainly must be an indicator that a good portion of
the population believes that a low-carb life style is healthy and OK to do?

Any comments to lift my spirits would be appreciated.

Eddie
338/333/180

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.