Why Do People Fall Down?



On Oct 29, 1:40 pm, "gotbent" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Too low to the ground? I've had people in gigantic landbarges stopped next
> to me at a traffic light and shout out of their window at me that I was too
> low to see. I ask them who they're talking to. "You", they answer. I tell
> them that either they're crazy for talking to something invisible, or I'm
> not invisible after all. I don't think most of them get it.


Heh...I had a well-meaning old fellow pull up next to me in his car
one night and say that I should have lights on my 'bent. I told him
he should just slow down. He didn't say anything more; I hope he
agreed!

> I know a fellow that used to ride a NoCom in Chicago, on the streets! I know
> a another fellow that rode a Bacchetta Strada in Chicago, too. He got hit by
> a car, as high and visible as he was.


Well, those things are not all that high, in "absolute terms," and
maybe folks are worse drivers in Chicago than NYC. I've actually
commuted with my SMGTe many, many times without incident.

> I own your bike's cousin, the Speedmachine. She can be a trecherous ***** at
> times. Mostly a quick and comfortable ride, but let your attention waver for
> a moment and you'll find yourself dumped, unceremoniuosly, out on your ass.
> I admit to being a member of the clan klutz and I don't chew gum and walk
> simultaneously and remaining in control on two wheels is not totally
> intuitive for me. I admit to hammering through turns more consertvatively
> than excellent bike handlers, but still, I go through the twisties a lot
> faster than the average schmo I pass on the bike trail.
>
> The trike takes the balance thing right out of the equation.


But on turns, etc., you still have to watch out! Besides, balance is
so second-nature, it's almost not a factor for me (and I suspect for
most "serious" cyclists). I wonder if trike fans are maybe, um, less
competent cyclists, as it were....

> On the trike I
> pedal like mad and all I need to do is pay attention to what's around me.


Same thing on any bike, for those who are good cyclists.

> I
> ride with a friend on Wednesday nights, usually a few blocks away from his
> house in the land of garage-mahals and green lawns and smooth low traffic
> streets. We do five mile circuitous loops. The first time, a few weeks ago,
> when we did the ride with lights I noticed that my cheeks hurt. The ride was
> so much fun that I was unconsciously grinning in the dark.


But how's that unique to a trike? I still grin on my 'bent. (I'm
always grinning anyway; it's all too cute and funny, everything is, in
life.) I'm sure I'd grin on a trike, too. But I don't see what makes
them really special.

I was actually thinking of getting my old dad one, just so he gets
more physical than simply walking the dog. But other than that, I
really don't see the big deal.

> I'm not a bent newbe either. I bought my first bent in '99. I still have a
> SM and an Earthcycles Sunset and I bought a Trice in February and I ride
> about 2000-3000 miles a year.


I'm not trying to put down trikes. Just chit-chatting here. I'm sure
they're fun for me, too. I'll probably get one one day, too.
 
On Oct 29, 8:11 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
> It is fun to cross after the train goes by, while everyone else is
> waiting for the gate to rise.


I hope it's not a multi-track crossing. That second train hidden
behind the first one can ruin your day.
 
gotbent aka FVTR wrote:
> ...
> Sorry, I missed the non hot linked ref to the image on Flikr. Definately not
> a MASA. Modern trikes are amazing vehicles. My ICE QNT is quite dependable
> and the most relaxed pleasurable ride I ever owned, and my past stable
> included a Raleigh Grand Prix, Raleigh Super-Tourer a Raleigh Portage, a
> Schwinn Super Sport SP frame turned into a Campi-Japanolo bike, a
> Diamondback Ridgerunner, a Proflex 856, and RANS V-Rex. I also own an HPVelo
> Speedmachine, an Earthcycles Sunset and the ICE QNT.


Only a weird person would own an Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer. We will
not even consider the implication of owning two (2) such bicycles.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
Red and Purple Earth Cycle Sunset Lowracers
 
Prisoner at War wrote:
> On Oct 29, 1:40 pm, "gotbent" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ...
>> I own your bike's cousin, the Speedmachine. She can be a trecherous ***** at
>> times. Mostly a quick and comfortable ride, but let your attention waver for
>> a moment and you'll find yourself dumped, unceremoniuosly, out on your ass.
>> I admit to being a member of the clan klutz and I don't chew gum and walk
>> simultaneously and remaining in control on two wheels is not totally
>> intuitive for me. I admit to hammering through turns more consertvatively
>> than excellent bike handlers, but still, I go through the twisties a lot
>> faster than the average schmo I pass on the bike trail.
>>
>> The trike takes the balance thing right out of the equation.

>
> But on turns, etc., you still have to watch out! Besides, balance is
> so second-nature, it's almost not a factor for me (and I suspect for
> most "serious" cyclists). I wonder if trike fans are maybe, um, less
> competent cyclists, as it were....
>
>> On the trike I
>> pedal like mad and all I need to do is pay attention to what's around me.

>
> Same thing on any bike, for those who are good cyclists....


On the trike one can ignore things like loose gravel, wet manhole
covers, etc. that will dump the unwary cyclist.

If I ever have time to go touring, I will use a trike for the above
reason. The extra stability would be welcome when tired, on a steep
climb, etc.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> ...
> Try to do a track stand on a 2 wheeler for more than a few seconds. On the
> other hand, I can do a track stand on my 3 wheeler all day and all night -
> if my confounded bladder would let me.


Here is the solution for the bladder capacity problem:
<http://www.stadiumpal.com/>.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?
 
Bill Sornson wrote:
> Ridiculous, even for you.


"What are you talking about?" - Michael Press

Ever hear of context, Mr. Sornson?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?
 
Prisoner at War wrote:
> I just met a coworker yesterday like you. He's a friendly guy, but
> given to manufacturing arguments out of nothing over nothing. Very
> friendly, but prattles on about nothing for no reason, the kind of
> person who disagrees that the sky is blue because it's gray to certain
> animals, which he knows 'cause he had a pet rat once that a pet store
> gave him for Halloween, never understood why people are afraid of
> rats, people have such irrational phobias, like the GWOT right now,
> which he can understand but thinks is being handled badly, blah blah
> blah....
>
> You people are kind of scary.
>

Who is "you"?

Context please!

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?
 
Tom Sherman wrote:
> Bill Sornson wrote:
>> Ridiculous, even for you.

>
> "What are you talking about?" - Michael Press
>
> Ever hear of context, Mr. Sornson?


For the love of GOD, man, do try to keep up. This all started because
certain posters (ahem) over-snip and don't attribute. IOW, THAT WAS THE
ENTIRE POINT.

HTH... (Sigh.)
 
Tom Sherman wrote:
> Prisoner at War wrote:
>> I just met a coworker yesterday like you. He's a friendly guy, but
>> given to manufacturing arguments out of nothing over nothing. Very
>> friendly, but prattles on about nothing for no reason, the kind of
>> person who disagrees that the sky is blue because it's gray to
>> certain animals, which he knows 'cause he had a pet rat once that a
>> pet store gave him for Halloween, never understood why people are
>> afraid of rats, people have such irrational phobias, like the GWOT
>> right now, which he can understand but thinks is being handled
>> badly, blah blah blah....
>>
>> You people are kind of scary.
>>

> Who is "you"?
>
> Context please!


Irony, thy name is Tom. LOL
 
On Oct 31, 10:47 pm, "Bill Sornson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> But...but...PAW said quoting ain't necessary!!!


It's certainly not if you're reading a Bill Sornson post! There won't
be any meaningful content anyway!

(It's funny watching his frequent confusion, though! ;-)

- Frank Krygowski
 
Claire Petersky wrote:

> I'm downright terrifying...


....to "folson", anyway! LOL
 
You can't find "soc.history.world-war-ii"??

And that's "PaW", not "POW".

I think you're wearing your helmet at the wrong end, mister.



On Oct 31, 12:40 pm, "Bill Sornson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Didn't think so. (Gee, POW's anonymous AND a liar -- what a surprise!
> LOL )
>
> Bill "posting style proves the point" S.
 
God, he/she/it's a top-poster, too.

(Quoting much less attribution not necessary, right?!?)

ROTFL
 
Turn your monitor upside if top-posting bothers you so much.

And that helmet belongs on your ass, not your head, obviously. =)



On Nov 1, 12:37 pm, "Bill Sornson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> God, he/she/it's a top-poster, too.
>
> (Quoting much less attribution not necessary, right?!?)
>
> ROTFL
 
Go take some more powdered steroids, knucklebrain.

Bill "adhering to new rule (per PAW) of no quoting or attributing required"
S.
 
Prisoner at War wrote:
> Turn your monitor upside if top-posting bothers you so much.
>
> And that helmet belongs on your ass, not your head, obviously. =)
>
>
>
> On Nov 1, 12:37 pm, "Bill Sornson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> God, he/she/it's a top-poster, too.
>>
>> (Quoting much less attribution not necessary, right?!?)
>>
>> ROTFL


Scathing retort.

Bill "forcing reader to sort out due to PAW's inconsiderate nature" S.
 
On Oct 31, 7:40 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>
> On the trike one can ignore things like loose gravel, wet manhole
> covers, etc. that will dump the unwary cyclist.
>
> If I ever have time to go touring, I will use a trike for the above
> reason. The extra stability would be welcome when tired, on a steep
> climb, etc.


That is true...but that's usually no big deal for a rider, so I think
for many it falls under the "nice but not necessary" category of
bicycle features. AFAICT, it's the only feature of a trike -- besides
cup-holders! =)

> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?