Why do I love coffee so much?

ronde chumpion said:

Hey,

I love the stuff! Home-brew, restaurants, gas stations, Starbucks, local coffee houses, even
Dunkin Donuts.

I drink it before I ride, during my ride, after my ride, before I race, all the time! I take it
in the morning, midday, evening, even with dessert.

Can this be good? Is there a risk to riding with so much caffeine in my blood? I race citizens
and 5's, so I don't think I'll ever be tested at one of those events.

Does anybody here feel the same about the stuff?

Thanks, Ronde Chumpion

I like the taste of coffee, but the caffeine losses its effectiveness after that first cup. I've
been known to zonk right out after a double shot of espresso.

ronde chumpion said:

Hey,

I love the stuff! Home-brew, restaurants, gas stations, Starbucks, local coffee houses, even
Dunkin Donuts.

I drink it before I ride, during my ride, after my ride, before I race, all the time! I take it
in the morning, midday, evening, even with dessert.

Can this be good? Is there a risk to riding with so much caffeine in my blood? I race citizens
and 5's, so I don't think I'll ever be tested at one of those events.

Does anybody here feel the same about the stuff?

Thanks, Ronde Chumpion

There are lots of studies decrying the evils of coffee, but most of them were paid for by herbal
tea manufacturers. As far as I can tell, the worst thing about coffee is that when they convince
you it's unhealthy, you're likely to withdraw suddenly, leading to a couple of weeks of ghastly
headaches. From personal experience, I think you do build up a tolerance, and changing your
caffiene intake suddenly is more likely to have unpleasant side effects than keeping your intake
stable. Coffee does have diuretic effects, so I would guess there is a somewhat increased chance
of dehydration, esp. on long hot rides.

Steve

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Coffee does have diuretic effects, so I would guess there is a somewhat increased chance of
dehydration, esp. on long hot rides.

I was flipping through a copy of Runner's World a couple of months ago (in a coffee shop, of course,
visited on a off-season coffee shop ride) that had an article on caffiene and performance. They
claimed that caffienated drinks didn't have that much of a diuretic effect and that they will not
affect your hydration levels during exercise. I was surprised at this statement since I had always
heard that the opposite was true.

I can't remember exactly which issue this was or the name of the article, so I can't back this up.
And I really don't want to do any major searching on the web for medical studies to back up the
claims this article made, so don't ask.

Cathy

Cathy Boland said:

I was flipping through a copy of Runner's World a couple of months ago (in a coffee shop, of
course, visited on a off-season coffee shop ride) that had an article on caffiene and performance.
They claimed that caffienated drinks didn't have that much of a diuretic effect and that they will
not affect your hydration levels during exercise. I was surprised at this statement since I had
always heard that the opposite was true.

I can't remember exactly which issue this was or the name of the article, so I can't back this up.
And I really don't want to do any major searching on the web for medical studies to back up the
claims this article made, so don't ask.

Cathy

That's good news. Maybe beer is OK too. Maybe we should write a training diet book.

Steve

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Maybe beer is OK too. Maybe we should write a training diet book.

Of course beer is OK!

In article <[email hidden]>, Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS

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ronde chumpion said:

Hey,

I love the stuff! Home-brew, restaurants, gas stations, Starbucks, local coffee houses, even
Dunkin Donuts.

I drink it before I ride, during my ride, after my ride, before I race, all the time! I take it
in the morning, midday, evening, even with dessert.

Can this be good? Is there a risk to riding with so much caffeine in my blood? I race citizens
and 5's, so I don't think I'll ever be tested at one of those events.

Does anybody here feel the same about the stuff?

Thanks, Ronde Chumpion

There are lots of studies decrying the evils of coffee, but most of them were paid for by
herbal tea manufacturers. As far as I can tell, the worst thing about coffee is that when they
convince you it's unhealthy, you're likely to withdraw suddenly, leading to a couple of weeks
of ghastly headaches. From personal experience, I think you do build up a tolerance, and
changing your caffiene intake suddenly is more likely to have unpleasant side effects than
keeping your intake stable. Coffee does have diuretic effects, so I would guess there is a
somewhat increased chance of dehydration, esp. on long hot rides.

Steve

I love the stuff! But I can't drink as much as I used to because of medication I'm on, it makes me
really wired. As for headaches, whenever I've had to go for any kind of blood test where you have to
fast, ugggh! By the time it's over I have a horrible, caffeine deprivation headache which doesn't go
away by having coffee. It's just THERE. NOthing gets rid of that misery except empricet!

Coffee! It's OK, but, Beer is your friend.

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I was flipping through a copy of Runner's World a couple of months ago (in

a

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coffee shop, of course, visited on a off-season coffee shop ride) that had an article on caffiene
and performance. They claimed that caffienated drinks didn't have that much of a diuretic effect
and that they will not affect your hydration levels during exercise. I was surprised at this
statement since I had always heard that the opposite was true.

I can't remember exactly which issue this was or the name of the article,

so

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I can't back this up. And I really don't want to do any major searching

on

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the web for medical studies to back up the claims this article made, so don't ask.

Cathy

If you care, here's a link to the article you're probably referencing (it's on the second page):
runnersworld.com0,1300,1 53 84 5381 1 2,00.htmlOpen ↗

I also read something similar in another Rodale publication.

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an article on caffiene and performance. They claimed that caffienated

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drinks didn't have that much of a diuretic effect and that they will not

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affect your hydration levels during exercise. I was surprised at this

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statement since I had always heard that the opposite was true.

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If you care, here's a link to the article you're probably referencing

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Yup, that was it. Below is the quote that I half-way remembered through my caffeine buzz:

"And don't worry about caffeine dehydrating you for your run. Studies show that regular caffeine
users don't experience increased fluid losses when they drink coffee, colas, and teas. Only those
who don't normally drink caffeine may suffer transient fluid loses as a result of caffeine's
diuretic effect. So if you usually abstain from caffeine, but decide to go for an iced coffee, just
chase it with a cup of water. "

I drink enough coffee to support a coffee farm by myself, so this was good news.

Cathy

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I love the stuff! But I can't drink as much as I used to because of medication I'm on, it makes me
really wired. As for headaches, whenever I've had to go for any kind of blood test where you have
to fast, ugggh! By the time it's over I have a horrible, caffeine deprivation headache which
doesn't go away by having coffee. It's just THERE. NOthing gets rid of that misery except
empricet!

If you are able to, go out and ride or run or something to get your HR up. Headache goes away (for
me anyway) and I have no idea why.
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Marty

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I love the stuff! But I can't drink as much as I used to because of medication I'm on, it makes me
really wired. As for headaches, whenever I've had to go for any kind of blood test where you have
to fast, ugggh! By the time it's over I have a horrible, caffeine deprivation headache which
doesn't go away by having coffee. It's just THERE. NOthing gets rid of that misery except
empricet!

If you are able to, go out and ride or run or something to get your HR up. Headache goes away (for
me anyway) and I have no idea why.
--
Marty

Works great for hangovers, too.

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I love the stuff! But I can't drink as much as I used to because of medication I'm on, it makes
me really wired. As for headaches, whenever I've had to go for any kind of blood test where you
have to fast, ugggh! By the time it's over I have a horrible, caffeine deprivation headache
which doesn't go away by having coffee. It's just THERE. NOthing gets rid of that misery except
empricet!

If you are able to, go out and ride or run or something to get your HR up. Headache goes away (for
me anyway) and I have no idea why.
--
Marty

Probably would work. The last time I had one of those tests was in the dead of winter, though, and I
fortunately don't have to do that very often. I get tested for thyroid regularly, but you don't have
to fast for those tests.

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I love the stuff! But I can't drink as much as I used to because of medication I'm on, it makes
me really wired. As for headaches, whenever I've had to go for any kind of blood test where you
have to fast, ugggh! By the time it's over I have a horrible, caffeine deprivation headache
which doesn't go away by having coffee. It's just THERE. NOthing gets

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of that misery except empricet!

If you are able to, go out and ride or run or something to get your HR

up.

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Headache goes away (for me anyway) and I have no idea why.
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Marty

Works great for hangovers, too.

Yup. Been there, done that.

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I love the stuff! But I can't drink as much as I used to because of medication I'm on, it makes me
really wired. As for headaches, whenever I've had to go for any kind of blood test where you have
to fast, ugggh! By the time it's over I have a horrible, caffeine deprivation headache which
doesn't go away by having coffee. It's just THERE. NOthing gets rid of that misery except
empricet!

I loveee thattt caffeineeeeeeeeeeeee toooooooooo ! It's like the starter fluid I had to use for my
old 54 Ford Pickup truck. Once you got that SOB kick over with the "juice" it ran like a champ. It's
way too easy now that Starbucks is at the bottom of the hill from my house. Those [censored] knew I
was a caffeine addict and built it where I would have to pass it twice day. They even have my dog
addicted, they keep milk bones for him under the counter. I'm sure even those have some Columbian
product in them. You really know when you drink too much coffee when their coffees's are named after
you, the wife and dog.

"OMC"

"Keep alive by Verona Blend"

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I love the stuff! But I can't drink as much as I used to because of medication I'm on, it makes
me really wired. As for headaches, whenever I've had to go for any kind of blood test where you
have to fast, ugggh! By the time it's over I have a horrible, caffeine deprivation headache
which doesn't go away by having coffee. It's just THERE. NOthing gets rid of that misery except
empricet!

I loveee thattt caffeineeeeeeeeeeeee toooooooooo ! It's like the starter fluid I had to use for my
old 54 Ford Pickup truck. Once you got that SOB kick over with the "juice" it ran like a champ.
It's way too easy now that Starbucks is at the bottom of the hill from my house. Those [censored]
knew I was a caffeine addict and built it where I would have to pass it twice day. They even have
my dog addicted, they keep milk bones for him under the counter. I'm sure even those have some
Columbian product in them. You really know when you drink too much coffee when their coffees's are
named after you, the wife and dog.

"OMC"

"Keep alive by Verona Blend"

Dumbass -

I thought Junior had laid down the edict that you're grounded from rbr.

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Coffee! It's OK, but, Beer is your friend.

Time to start talking beer again!

I've been drinking sweet, highly alcoholic beers lately. I visited the 'rents for thnxgvng and they
live within distribution range of Dogfish head.

I picked up a 4 pack of Midas touch: dogfish.commidas.cfmOpen ↗

and I was cured of my liking of sweet "beers".

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A 9%abv IPA. I'm thirsty for more.

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I love the stuff! But I can't drink as much as I used to because of medication I'm on, it
makes me really wired. As for headaches, whenever I've had to go for any kind of blood test
where you have to fast, ugggh! By the time it's over I have a horrible, caffeine deprivation
headache which doesn't go away by having coffee. It's just THERE. NOthing gets rid of that
misery except empricet!

I loveee thattt caffeineeeeeeeeeeeee toooooooooo ! It's like the starter fluid I had to use for
my old 54 Ford Pickup truck. Once you got that SOB kick over with the "juice" it ran like a
champ. It's way too easy now that Starbucks is at the bottom of the hill from my house. Those
[censored] knew I was a caffeine addict and built it where I would have to pass it twice day. They
even have my dog addicted, they keep milk bones for him under the counter. I'm sure even those
have some Columbian product in them. You really know when you drink too much coffee when their
coffees's are named after you, the wife and dog.

"OMC"

"Keep alive by Verona Blend"

Dumbass -

I thought Junior had laid down the edict that you're grounded from rbr.

This one got approved as being off topic.........

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gets rid

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> of that misery except empricet!

I loveee thattt caffeineeeeeeeeeeeee toooooooooo ! It's like the starter fluid I had to use
for my old 54 Ford Pickup truck. Once you got that SOB kick over with the "juice" it ran like
a champ. It's way too easy now that Starbucks is at the bottom of the hill from my house.
Those [censored] knew I was a caffeine addict and built it where I would have to pass it twice
day. They even have my dog addicted, they keep milk bones for him under the counter. I'm sure
even those have some Columbian product in them. You really know when you drink too much coffee
when their coffees's are named after you, the wife and dog.

"OMC"

"Keep alive by Verona Blend"

Dumbass -

I thought Junior had laid down the edict that you're grounded from rbr.

This one got approved as being off topic.........

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> I loveee thattt caffeineeeeeeeeeeeee toooooooooo ! It's like the starter fluid I had to use
> for my old 54 Ford Pickup truck. Once you got that SOB kick over with the "juice" it ran
> like a champ. It's way too easy now that Starbucks is at the bottom of the hill from my
> house. Those [censored] knew I was a caffeine addict and built it where I would have to pass
> it twice day. They even have my dog addicted, they keep milk bones for him under the
> counter. I'm sure even those have some Columbian product in them. You really know when you
> drink too much coffee when their coffees's are named after you, the wife and dog.
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> "OMC"
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> "Keep alive by Verona Blend"

Dumbass -

I thought Junior had laid down the edict that you're grounded from rbr.

This one got approved as being off topic.........

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Since the place is so close to home, have you thought about running a pipe to your house?

That's a damn good idea............right next to the Flying Dog Ale Tap. Geez.......I'm agreeing
with Brian again !!!

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