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  1. I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people with
    excessive salt.

    I was surprized to see that in the UK 35000 lives a year would be saved
    by reducing salt to a recommended 6g/day.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3312667.stm

    The only sensible reason I can see is profit, so it is time someone
    took a class action.

  2. Dave said:

    I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people with
    excessive salt.

    I was surprized to see that in the UK 35000 lives a year would be saved
    by reducing salt to a recommended 6g/day.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3312667.stm

    The only sensible reason I can see is profit, so it is time someone
    took a class action.

    Nobody is force fed, they can buy salf free foods.

  3. "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people with
    excessive salt.

    I was surprized to see that in the UK 35000 lives a year would be saved
    by reducing salt to a recommended 6g/day.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3312667.stm

    The only sensible reason I can see is profit, so it is time someone
    took a class action.

    The food industry does not kill people, people have a choice when they buy
    food, everything has to be clearly labelled as to its salt content, so it is
    the consumers that are killing themselves with their choice on an unhealthy
    diet.

  4. Dave said:

    I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people with
    excessive salt.

    I was surprized to see that in the UK 35000 lives a year would be saved
    by reducing salt to a recommended 6g/day.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3312667.stm

    No it wouldnt.

    One born every minute. They make the food in a particular way, because thats
    how people like them.

    Gaz

  5. "Gaz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Dave said:

    I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people with
    excessive salt.

    I was surprized to see that in the UK 35000 lives a year would be saved
    by reducing salt to a recommended 6g/day.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3312667.stm

    No it wouldnt.

    One born every minute. They make the food in a particular way, because
    thats how people like them.

    Nanny statism ...
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4667066.stm

  6. Dave said:

    I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people
    with excessive salt.

    Because if you take the salt out, teh food tastes like [censored]....

    It's all well and good eating healthy in an effort to live longer....But
    when your life becomes miserable because you've removed all the pleasure
    from it, you probably won't want to live longer.....

    Eating healthy doesn't make you live longer....It just feels that way.....

  7. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:40:19 GMT, Swampy Bogtrotter wrote in
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    sci.med.nutrition,uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.british,uk.legal :

    Quoted message said:

    Because if you take the salt out, teh food tastes like [censored]....

    Nah... A salty tooth is mostly a matter of habit.

    Quoted message said:

    It's all well and good eating healthy in an effort to live longer....But
    when your life becomes miserable because you've removed all the pleasure
    from it, you probably won't want to live longer.....

    Can you only taste the salt? What about the flavour of food itself?
    And, have you ever tried adding herbs and spices instead of salt?

    X'Posted to: sci.med.nutrition,uk.politics.misc,uk.legal

  8. Dave said:

    I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people with
    excessive salt.

    I was surprized to see that in the UK 35000 lives a year would be saved
    by reducing salt to a recommended 6g/day.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3312667.stm

    The only sensible reason I can see is profit, so it is time someone
    took a class action.


    Lives are not "saved" by any medical treatments, diets, exercise,
    whatever. We are all going to die - whether we eat 1 gramme a day of
    salt ot 2kg.

    I am sure that I could change many of my habits to certainly make me
    feel as if I am living longer - much longer. And even actually give me
    a few extra days or years - maybe even decades.

    But what the hell - I am going to die anyway, I have no control over that.

    But I do have some control over what fun and enjoyment I get out of
    life. And that includes eating the "wrong" things, doing the "wrong"
    things, wearing the "wrong" things and even dating the "wrong" things..

    Sod the lot of them, I say. I want to die with a surprised expression on
    my face and be bloody annoyed at the time.

    You taxpayers should all be grateful and encourage others to do likewise
    - it would solve the pension gap problem, overnight...

    --
    Sue

  9. Dave said:

    I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people with
    excessive salt.

    Maybe you should try working out if and how first.

    Quoted message said:

    I was surprized to see that in the UK 35000 lives a year would be saved
    by reducing salt to a recommended 6g/day.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3312667.stm

    You were surprised to find complete bollocks published by the BBC ?

    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/281/5379/898?ijkey=ATm56Jl8nBVYU
    http://oz.berkeley.edu/users/freedman/573.pdf

  10. Palindr☻me said:

    Sod the lot of them, I say. I want to die with a surprised expression on
    my face and be bloody annoyed at the time.

    lmfao

    as philosophies go, I've heard worse.

  11. Swampy Bogtrotter said:
    Dave said:

    I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people
    with excessive salt.

    Because if you take the salt out, teh food tastes like [censored]....

    As is evidenced in many crisps snow.
    They took the salt out and the crisps taste like paper

  12. In uk.politics.misc on Wed, 1 Feb 2006 at 14:59:19, Dave wrote :

    Quoted message said:

    I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people with
    excessive salt.

    I was surprized to see that in the UK 35000 lives a year would be saved
    by reducing salt to a recommended 6g/day.

    Would it, though?

    I find that reduced-salt food lacks taste, so I just add the salt back
    myself...
    --
    Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

  13. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:40:19 GMT, Swampy Bogtrotter wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on
    sci.med.nutrition,uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.british,uk.legal :

    Quoted message said:
    Dave said:

    I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people
    with excessive salt.

    Because if you take the salt out, teh food tastes like [censored]....

    It's all well and good eating healthy in an effort to live longer....

    In my view, healthy eating is an effort to live a healthy life.
    In other words, to well-being.

    Quoted message said:

    But
    when your life becomes miserable because you've removed all the pleasure
    from it, you probably won't want to live longer.....

    Right. Still, I doubt that all the pleasure of life is in salt. It's
    just a habit.

    Quoted message said:

    Eating healthy doesn't make you live longer....It just feels that way.....

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  14. On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 08:19:25 +0000, Dave the exTrailer wrote in
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    sci.med.nutrition,uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.british,uk.legal :

    Quoted message said:

    As is evidenced in many crisps snow.
    They took the salt out and the crisps taste like paper

    In other words, they sell you tasteless food and salt. 😉

    Try naturally tasting fresh foods.

    X'Posted to: sci.med.nutrition,alt.politics.british,uk.legal

    --
    Enrico C

    * cut the ending "cut-togli.invalid" string when replying by email *

  15. Guy Fawkes said:
    Palindr?me said:

    Sod the lot of them, I say. I want to die with a surprised
    expression on my face and be bloody annoyed at the time.

    lmfao

    as philosophies go, I've heard worse.

    Sounds like a decent plan to me too :-)

    --
    Carl Waring
    http://getdigiguide.com/?p=1&r=1495

  16. Sideways into my coffin, wheels locked, bottle of Jack in one hand and
    a spliff in the other, screaming "Yeehah! What a ride!" :-)

  17. Paul Hyett said:

    In uk.politics.misc on Wed, 1 Feb 2006 at 14:59:19, Dave wrote :

    Quoted message said:

    I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people
    with excessive salt.

    I was surprized to see that in the UK 35000 lives a year would be
    saved by reducing salt to a recommended 6g/day.

    Would it, though?

    I find that reduced-salt food lacks taste, so I just add the salt back
    myself...


    Which would be the sensible but not the profit efficient way of doing it.
    The salt is in there for a reason. It lenghtens the life of the food on the
    supermarket shelf.

  18. Like don't buy bread, cheese, or anything from a restaurant. Also
    almost all cans of soup, fish or vegetables are out.

  19. Harry The Horse said:
    C. Señor said:
    Dave said:

    I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people
    with excessive salt.

    I was surprized to see that in the UK 35000 lives a year would be
    saved by reducing salt to a recommended 6g/day.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3312667.stm

    The only sensible reason I can see is profit, so it is time someone
    took a class action.

    Nobody is force fed, they can buy salf free foods.


    Not very easily. Additive information is poorly written in small type. If
    it were cheaper to produce food with less salt then the manufacturers would
    be quick to do so. The reality is that salt, just like sugar, is a
    preservative and therefore helps boost profits.

    Salt and sugar are preservatives and therefore help stop food going
    rotten. It's been used that way for a long time and is the basis of
    several popular foods, such as bacon, gammon and jam.

    --
    Max Demian

  20. Max said:
    Harry The Horse said:
    C. Señor said:

    Dave wrote:
    > I am trying to work out why the food business kills so many people
    > with excessive salt.
    >
    > I was surprized to see that in the UK 35000 lives a year would be
    > saved by reducing salt to a recommended 6g/day.
    > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3312667.stm
    >
    > The only sensible reason I can see is profit, so it is time someone
    > took a class action.

    Nobody is force fed, they can buy salf free foods.


    Not very easily. Additive information is poorly written in small
    type. If it were cheaper to produce food with less salt then the
    manufacturers would be quick to do so. The reality is that salt,
    just like sugar, is a preservative and therefore helps boost profits.

    Salt and sugar are preservatives and therefore help stop food going
    rotten. It's been used that way for a long time and is the basis of
    several popular foods, such as bacon, gammon and jam.


    Which is what I said. Increased shelf life = greater profits.

    The question is how much is used. The marmalade I buy has significantly
    less sugar in it than the 'Golden Shread' variety. The upshot is that you
    *must* keep it in the fridge otherwise is goes off very quickly. But that's
    OK, it tastes better than the other sugar laden marmalades.

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