Why do events fall by the wayside?

Davey Crockett said:

They simply cost too much to run

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/4663240.stm

I would bet my own money that most events fall by the wayside when the
key volunteers simply run out of energy. 5% do most of the work,
another 10% will work when asked and everyone else stands around and
watches. Half of these also complain about the people doing the
work...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

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Davey Crockett said:

They simply cost too much to run

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/4663240.stm

I would bet my own money that most events fall by the wayside when the
key volunteers simply run out of energy. 5% do most of the work,
another 10% will work when asked and everyone else stands around and
watches. Half of these also complain about the people doing the
work...

More importantly it is the continuous carping from those who do nothing
towards those who do that grows so wearying that it's less trouble not to
put events on.

In Europe most of the really good races are put on by media subsidiaries.
They're financed the same way that Survivor is. They could do the same here
but aren't bright enough to notice that a tiny newspaper has put on the
world's greatest bicycle race for 100 years and managed to survive (sort
of). Can anyone say the same thing about Reality TV?

Tom Kunich said:

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Davey Crockett said:

They simply cost too much to run

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/4663240.stm

I would bet my own money that most events fall by the wayside when the
key volunteers simply run out of energy. 5% do most of the work,
another 10% will work when asked and everyone else stands around and
watches. Half of these also complain about the people doing the
work...

More importantly it is the continuous carping from those who do nothing
towards those who do that grows so wearying that it's less trouble not to
put events on.

In Europe most of the really good races are put on by media subsidiaries.
They're financed the same way that Survivor is. They could do the same here
but aren't bright enough to notice that a tiny newspaper has put on the
world's greatest bicycle race for 100 years and managed to survive (sort
of). Can anyone say the same thing about Reality TV?

dumbasses,

there is only so much you can squeeze out of volunteers, that's why any
race to be sustained or to grow has to have paid staff otherwise when
those two or three committed volunteers hang it up the event is gone.
if your main staff is paid they won't feel disgruntled doing all the
work -- since that is their job.

the only way races can survive is money, and there is only one viable
source of money, sponsorships that pay for exposure. for a local race
that means advertising to the participants and community and for pro
races it means television.

catering to a sponsor sounds crass, but that is the organizer's bread
and butter. if you put on a sponsor's race, you can then use the
revenue generated to put on a rider's race and give back to the riders.

the lack of racing in north america (and the dying races in europe)
isn't because someone isn't bright enough -- it's the lack of exposure.

amit said:

there is only so much you can squeeze out of volunteers, that's why any
race to be sustained or to grow has to have paid staff otherwise when
those two or three committed volunteers hang it up the event is gone.
if your main staff is paid they won't feel disgruntled doing all the
work -- since that is their job.

the only way races can survive is money, and there is only one viable
source of money, sponsorships that pay for exposure. for a local race
that means advertising to the participants and community and for pro
races it means television.

catering to a sponsor sounds crass, but that is the organizer's bread
and butter. if you put on a sponsor's race, you can then use the
revenue generated to put on a rider's race and give back to the riders.

the lack of racing in north america (and the dying races in europe)
isn't because someone isn't bright enough -- it's the lack of exposure.

nice post

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Le Vent à Dos
Davey Crockett

Ever since the mid 80s and "mondialization" we have seen growth,
calendar clashes and losers of those clashes. The money dries up
because of the calendar clash. There are many times the abouts of money
available in the sport, we just have winners and losers from the
growth. It is not like there is a controlled growth plan that honors
the legacies of these races. Some times these legacies lead to
financial security and other times they don't.

It is amazing to think about how much the sport has changed. I can
hardly think of any aspect of the sport that hasn't changed.

Chris M said:

It is amazing to think about how much the sport has changed. I can
hardly think of any aspect of the sport that hasn't changed.

Sadly it's now a far cry from what it was in the immediate post_war years
when it was mostly a bunch of lads giving it a go because it was better
than the Coal Mines in Liège/Lüttich/Luik, Saint-Etienne and the Rhur or
the Factories in Milan, for a pittance far inferior even to what the Wage
Slaves were paid in the Capitalists' Cash Cows.

But it was fun back then, and you could always open up Het Volk, La
Gazzetta or L'Equipe in those days and find a couple of local races within
easy riding distance or a shortish train ride where you might get lucky
and pick up a prime or two and a Nana or two later if you were in the
money.

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Davey Crockett
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Chris M said:

Ever since the mid 80s and "mondialization" we have seen growth,
calendar clashes and losers of those clashes. The money dries up
because of the calendar clash. There are many times the abouts of money
available in the sport, we just have winners and losers from the
growth. It is not like there is a controlled growth plan that honors
the legacies of these races. Some times these legacies lead to
financial security and other times they don't.

It is amazing to think about how much the sport has changed. I can
hardly think of any aspect of the sport that hasn't changed.

What "calendar clashes" are you talking about? And what money has dried
up because of these supposed "calendar clashes?" I see you failed to
list so much as one example.

Thanks,

Magilla

MagillaGorilla said:

What "calendar clashes" are you talking about? And what money has dried
up because of these supposed "calendar clashes?" I see you failed to
list so much as one example.

Winter Olympics almost clashed with the Super Bowl, confusing a lot of
sponsors. One or both has to go. I'm voting both.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Curtis L. Russell said:

MagillaGorilla said:

What "calendar clashes" are you talking about? And what money has dried
up because of these supposed "calendar clashes?" I see you failed to
list so much as one example.

Winter Olympics almost clashed with the Super Bowl, confusing a lot of
sponsors. One or both has to go. I'm voting both.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Yeah, I agree. I keep reading articles about how sponsors are
"confused" by the two.

Thanks for your "vote" to cancel both the Olympics and Superbowl.
Sounds like a referundum with some real support behind it.

Take care,

Magilla