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  1. The last two days, I've been riding Sun 28 (Just got it on Monday.)

    Seems to be good, the tire goes from 50-75 recommended, 85 max PSI.

    I infated it to about 68 PSI.

    Rode it about 5 miles or so yesterday, get home, lock it in the back of
    my car (where I usually keep my uni). No big change in weather or temp
    overnight.
    I get up this morning, look in my car, and the tire's been blown off the
    rim. The inner tube is ripped badly...shreds are hanging out from the
    rim.

    The rim strip and everything is in good condition.

    What would make the tube explode like that when I'm not riding it?

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  2. Hmmmm I Have No Idea. There Arent Any Spokes Pokin Thru To Where The
    Tube Would Be??

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  3. We've seen several incidents like yours. Mostly it happens to the
    plastic rimmed unicycles but we've seen some steel rim incidents as
    well. If the tire bead slips from the rim, the tube will force its way
    through the gap and explode. When mounting the tire, always ensure that
    the rim bead is seated properly. Usually there is a line around the
    perimeter of the tire that can be used to align the tire on the rim.

    Your situation may be something entirely different. Let us know what
    you find out.

    Bruce

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  4. yoopers said:

    *Your situation may be something entirely different. Let us know what
    you find out.

    Bruce *

    Well, I'm not likely to find out anything anymore...I bought a new tube
    and put it on this afternoon, and threw away the last one.

    Didn't think I'd be putting money into a new uni 2 days after getting
    it, but oh well.

    If it happens again, I'm getting one of those solid foam
    airless/tubeless tires someone posted a few days ago.

    I brought it to the bike shop where I got the tube and showed
    them...they had no idea, either.

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  5. yeah, your tyre just crept off the rim. make sure its well seated next
    time you pump it up.

    OR

    the cheap Sun rim could not have a good enough hook on it to hold on the
    tyre recomended pressure.

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  6. What is a hook?
    I don't know much about cycles.

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  7. The tire has a lip where it fits onto the rim bead. Which is a lip
    also,only inward facing. The opposing lips form the seal that keeps the
    tube inside the tire. If your concerned that your tire is improperly
    installed. Let all of the air out of it. Pinching the tire between your
    thumb and forefinger. Rock the tire back and forth inside the rim then
    reinflate. This should help. If it doesn't.
    Your tire might not fit the rim.
    The bead may still not be seated properly.
    Your adding too much air pressure.
    Are you using a gauge?

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  8. Skippii said:

    *What is a hook?
    I don't know much about cycles. *

    Jag's talking about the way the tire bead hooks onto or under the rim
    bead.

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  9. Skippii said:

    *What is a hook?
    I don't know much about cycles. *


    read these.
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/blowouts.html

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/flats.html

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  10. I'll tell you why because you touch yourself at night hahahahahahaha oh
    Family guy is the best show ever

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  11. Ah...I get it.
    Cool, and thanks for the links.

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  12. My sun 28" tire blew out the 2nd day for me as well. I was inflating
    the tire, got to about 60 psi. Loudest noise I had heard in in 30
    years. It sorta freaked me out. I've been cautious, gloves, safety
    glasses and ear protection just to put air in that tire ever since.

    I did find metal splinters around the spoke nuts and shavings in the
    tire. Removed the splinters and replaced the rim tape before replacing
    the tube.

    The 28" been fun ever since. Good luck with your 28".

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  13. As others have pointed out, the tire bead comes off of the rim and the
    tube comes out. Unrestricted by the tire, it begins to expand rapidly
    (and usually catastrophically). In UniVerse 2 there is a sequence with
    Jacinto hopping onto a rock in which this happens in a VERY LOW pressure
    tire so the tube doesn't pop before it reaches equilibrium. It looks
    like the Monty setup which was notorious for this problem.

    A good approximation is that the energy contained in a properly inflated
    tire is about the same as a round of .45ACP or a cherry bomb; something
    of the order of a kilo-joule. That's why it sounds so loud, especially
    in close quarters like your basement or garage. Acoustically it's enough
    to damage your ears...and soil your underwear.

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  14. harper said:

    *As others have pointed out, the tire bead comes off of the rim and
    the tube comes out. Unrestricted by the tire, it begins to expand
    rapidly (and usually catastrophically). In UniVerse 2 there is a
    sequence with Jacinto hopping onto a rock in which this happens in a
    VERY LOW pressure tire so the tube doesn't pop before it reaches
    equilibrium. It looks like the Monty setup which was notorious for
    this problem.

    A good approximation is that the energy contained in a properly
    inflated tire is about the same as a round of .45ACP or a cherry bomb;
    something of the order of a kilo-joule. That's why it sounds so loud,
    especially in close quarters like your basement or garage.
    Acoustically it's enough to damage your ears...and soil your
    underwear. *

    Ah...I have the U2 video, and always wondered why that was
    happening...

    I didn't know that there was so much energy in a tire!

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  15. harper said:

    *A good approximation is that the energy contained in a properly
    inflated tire is about the same as a round of .45ACP *


    yes, but no where near a .45LC or a .44MAG 😎

    where yoopers? oh yeah he probobly likes the .308 or the 30-06

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  16. jagur said:

    *yes, but no where near a .45LC or a .44MAG

    where yoopers? oh yeah he probobly likes the .308 or the 30-06 *

    Or .454 Casull or .50AE for that matter if we're talking about pistol
    rounds. The .308 and .30-06 are high powered rifle rounds. And I said of
    ORDER one kilo-joule so 300 joules to 3 kilo-joules. I'll bet the rifle
    rounds are in there somewhere.

    Bruce would certainly go for the rifle, I think his was a .30-06 in the
    picture. I don't know him to be much of a pistolero. He is undoubtedly
    formidable with the rifle.

    I had a 700cx25 at 90 psig go off about three feet away from me in my
    basement. That was about 700 Joules. My ears were ringing for awhile
    after that.

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  17. harper said:

    * The .308 and .30-06 are high powered rifle rounds. *


    yes, that what ment when i mentioned Yoopers...when that mans tyre
    blows there is much more addes joules therefor the referance not to
    mention the pic that i cant dig up tonite. to much 50cal sabot loading
    for me tonite.

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  18. Exactly the same thing happened to me.

    I had just bought my 24" Nimbus the same day. I assembeled it (with some
    help from my father). I Rode it around a bit. I couldn´t ride very good
    back then, something like 5 revolutions. I leaned it to a wall beacuse
    it was time for dinner.
    And then suddenly A very load noice is heard, like a gunshot 😉.
    Everybody thought someone were shooting in our backyard. But then we
    realiced it was thu unicycles tire that had exploded! Yikes!!!

    But we called unicycle.se and we got a brand new tire and a new tube the
    following day.
    😎

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  19. No blowouts for me (yet).

    I've had a couple of pinch flats when I ran my Nimbus X freestyle's
    'Maxxis Hookworm 20\" tyre' (http://tinyurl.com/5yqhs) at about 40-50
    PSI. I read that pinch flats were often caused by lower-than-recommended
    tyre pressure, so I had a look at the recommended pressure for my
    tyre...

    85-110 PSI! :eek:

    ...it is a real burden for me to inflate it that hard. Above 70 or so my
    twin-barrelled car tyre foot pump starks to creak, I have to really jump
    with all my weight on it, and the PSI gauge needle gets slower and
    slower towards the target of ninety PSI.

    What should be a simple and painless procedure to top up the tyre
    pressure strikes fear into me, especially now I've read these tales of
    tyres exploding on their own.

    I've read about tyre pressures for Muni and Trials (which I don't do
    yet) being never more than about 35 PSI, so why does this particular
    tyre require such a ridiculously high pressure?

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  20. jagur said:

    *yes, but no where near a .45LC or a .44MAG 😎

    where yoopers? oh yeah he probobly likes the .308 or the 30-06 *

    You all know me too well. 🙂

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