why are Nikes so expensive?

Runningman said:

The rubber/materials is a few pennies per pound, the indentured slave
labor/child labor is also a penny at most per pair of sneakers (you
should see these kids push out shoes ever hour on hidden camera) and
final product cost shipped is probably 1 or 2 dollars a pair yet they
sell these this at prices close to the price of italian leather mens
shoe made in italy (and some get there). No one would pay 50 dollars
for a book of matches yet people seem to have no problem spending
120-200+ for 2 dollar shoes. Forget it I will stick to good Italian
made shoes if I plan on spending 100-200 for footwear and If I am

going

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to be buying slavelabor sneakers I can get them atleast for 10-15
dollars (non nikes) that are made in the same plant. (

Why are they so expensive? Because they can. People continue to buy
them at high prices, not for functional value, but because of marketing
hype. For every person that is turned off by Nike's tactics, thousands
more will be sold by those same tactics.

tkb

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Quoted message said:

The rubber/materials is a few pennies per pound, the indentured slave
labor/child labor is also a penny at most per pair of sneakers (you
should see these kids push out shoes ever hour on hidden camera) and
final product cost shipped is probably 1 or 2 dollars a pair yet they
sell these this at prices close to the price of italian leather mens
shoe made in italy (and some get there). No one would pay 50 dollars
for a book of matches yet people seem to have no problem spending
120-200+ for 2 dollar shoes. Forget it I will stick to good Italian
made shoes if I plan on spending 100-200 for footwear and If I am going
to be buying slavelabor sneakers I can get them atleast for 10-15
dollars (non nikes) that are made in the same plant. (

It's all in the swoosh.

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Quoted message said:

The rubber/materials is a few pennies per pound, the indentured slave
labor/child labor is also a penny at most per pair of sneakers (you
should see these kids push out shoes ever hour on hidden camera) and
final product cost shipped is probably 1 or 2 dollars a pair yet they
sell these this at prices close to the price of italian leather mens
shoe made in italy (and some get there). No one would pay 50 dollars
for a book of matches yet people seem to have no problem spending
120-200+ for 2 dollar shoes. Forget it I will stick to good Italian
made shoes if I plan on spending 100-200 for footwear and If I am going
to be buying slavelabor sneakers I can get them atleast for 10-15
dollars (non nikes) that are made in the same plant. (

Every company does this. Why do people think it's just Nike?
My New Balance and Saucony shoes are made in China. They
cost a lot, too.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

Runningman said...

Quoted message said:

The rubber/materials is a few pennies per pound, the indentured slave
labor/child labor is also a penny at most per pair of sneakers (you
should see these kids push out shoes ever hour on hidden camera) and
final product cost shipped is probably 1 or 2 dollars a pair yet they
sell these this at prices close to the price of italian leather mens
shoe made in italy (and some get there). No one would pay 50 dollars
for a book of matches yet people seem to have no problem spending
120-200+ for 2 dollar shoes. Forget it I will stick to good Italian
made shoes if I plan on spending 100-200 for footwear and If I am going
to be buying slavelabor sneakers I can get them atleast for 10-15
dollars (non nikes) that are made in the same plant. (

Where do you people find $200 Nikes? At my local Sports Authority, Nikes range
from $50-$110, just like all the other running shoes.

SwStudio said:

"Runningman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

The rubber/materials is a few pennies per pound, the indentured slave
labor/child labor is also a penny at most per pair of sneakers (you
should see these kids push out shoes ever hour on hidden camera) and
final product cost shipped is probably 1 or 2 dollars a pair yet they
sell these this at prices close to the price of italian leather mens
shoe made in italy (and some get there). No one would pay 50 dollars
for a book of matches yet people seem to have no problem spending
120-200+ for 2 dollar shoes. Forget it I will stick to good Italian
made shoes if I plan on spending 100-200 for footwear and If I am going
to be buying slavelabor sneakers I can get them atleast for 10-15
dollars (non nikes) that are made in the same plant. (

Every company does this. Why do people think it's just Nike?
My New Balance and Saucony shoes are made in China. They
cost a lot, too.

i understand that the new balance sold at sports shops
are made in china mostly. however, the ones sold at
new balance shops are made in the usa and say so
very BOLDLY on the back. beats me as to the difference.
....thehick

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SwStudio said:

"Runningman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

The rubber/materials is a few pennies per pound, the indentured slave
labor/child labor is also a penny at most per pair of sneakers (you
should see these kids push out shoes ever hour on hidden camera) and
final product cost shipped is probably 1 or 2 dollars a pair yet they
sell these this at prices close to the price of italian leather mens
shoe made in italy (and some get there). No one would pay 50 dollars
for a book of matches yet people seem to have no problem spending
120-200+ for 2 dollar shoes. Forget it I will stick to good Italian
made shoes if I plan on spending 100-200 for footwear and If I am going
to be buying slavelabor sneakers I can get them atleast for 10-15
dollars (non nikes) that are made in the same plant. (

Every company does this. Why do people think it's just Nike?
My New Balance and Saucony shoes are made in China. They
cost a lot, too.

i understand that the new balance sold at sports shops
are made in china mostly. however, the ones sold at
new balance shops are made in the usa and say so
very BOLDLY on the back. beats me as to the difference.
...thehick

I buy my shoes directly from the NB store on Yonge. I have
for four years. They are made in China.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

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SwStudio said:

"Runningman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

The rubber/materials is a few pennies per pound, the indentured slave
labor/child labor is also a penny at most per pair of sneakers (you
should see these kids push out shoes ever hour on hidden camera) and
final product cost shipped is probably 1 or 2 dollars a pair yet they
sell these this at prices close to the price of italian leather mens
shoe made in italy (and some get there). No one would pay 50 dollars
for a book of matches yet people seem to have no problem spending
120-200+ for 2 dollar shoes. Forget it I will stick to good Italian
made shoes if I plan on spending 100-200 for footwear and If I am going
to be buying slavelabor sneakers I can get them atleast for 10-15
dollars (non nikes) that are made in the same plant. (

Every company does this. Why do people think it's just Nike?
My New Balance and Saucony shoes are made in China. They
cost a lot, too.

i understand that the new balance sold at sports shops
are made in china mostly. however, the ones sold at
new balance shops are made in the usa and say so
very BOLDLY on the back. beats me as to the difference.
...thehick

I buy my shoes directly from the NB store on Yonge. I have
for four years. They are made in China.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

SwStudio said:

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SwStudio said:

"Runningman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> The rubber/materials is a few pennies per pound, the indentured slave
> labor/child labor is also a penny at most per pair of sneakers (you
> should see these kids push out shoes ever hour on hidden camera) and
> final product cost shipped is probably 1 or 2 dollars a pair yet they
> sell these this at prices close to the price of italian leather mens
> shoe made in italy (and some get there). No one would pay 50 dollars
> for a book of matches yet people seem to have no problem spending
> 120-200+ for 2 dollar shoes. Forget it I will stick to good Italian
> made shoes if I plan on spending 100-200 for footwear and If I am going
> to be buying slavelabor sneakers I can get them atleast for 10-15
> dollars (non nikes) that are made in the same plant. (

Every company does this. Why do people think it's just Nike?
My New Balance and Saucony shoes are made in China. They
cost a lot, too.

i understand that the new balance sold at sports shops
are made in china mostly. however, the ones sold at
new balance shops are made in the usa and say so
very BOLDLY on the back. beats me as to the difference.
...thehick

I buy my shoes directly from the NB store on Yonge. I have
for four years. They are made in China.

My NB say "Made in USA of imported and domestic materials."

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Quoted message said:

Every company does this. Why do people think it's just Nike?

Just like Microsoft, it's fun to hate the big guy. I will admit that
Knight is a lot like Gates with his unscrupulous marketing but that's a
different story. The four year old works for a few hours on Nikes then
does Asics, etc.

Anyone real hung up on this can go order Bart Hersey shoes and quit your
pissing and moaning. Don't bother Flabby you love to hate.

-DF

Runningman said:

The rubber/materials is a few pennies per pound, the indentured slave
labor/child labor is also a penny at most per pair of sneakers (you
should see these kids push out shoes ever hour on hidden camera) and
final product cost shipped is probably 1 or 2 dollars a pair yet they
sell these this at prices close to the price of italian leather mens
shoe made in italy (and some get there). No one would pay 50 dollars
for a book of matches yet people seem to have no problem spending
120-200+ for 2 dollar shoes. Forget it I will stick to good Italian
made shoes if I plan on spending 100-200 for footwear and If I am

going

Quoted message said:

to be buying slavelabor sneakers I can get them atleast for 10-15
dollars (non nikes) that are made in the same plant. (

Stick the Italian shoes up your ass and keep running that quarter mile
with your $15 sneakers because that's all you are worth anyway.

Tom Phillips said:

My NB say "Made in USA of imported and domestic materials."

Yeah, the "imported materials" are probably the outsole, and everything
else.

They still have a couple of lines that are made in the US (whatever that
means) but most of them are made in China. The made in the US models are
fairly pricy.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Runningman said:

for a book of matches yet people seem to have no problem spending
120-200+ for 2 dollar shoes.

Good luck trying to find a decent trainer for $2. Most brands, like Nike,
sell their low-end, made in China shoes, for about $80.

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Forget it I will stick to good Italian
made shoes if I plan on spending 100-200 for footwear

You're making things up. Their most expensive gimmicky shoe is about $150
(one of those shox things). Most of their trainers are in the $80-$120 range
(like most other brands). Some of their flats are cheaper.

Quoted message said:

and If I am going
to be buying slavelabor sneakers I can get them atleast for 10-15
dollars (non nikes) that are made in the same plant. (

What brands make a decent running shoe for $10-15 ? And what are you smoking,
and where can I get some ?

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

clown

Donovan Rebbechi said:

Tom Phillips said:

My NB say "Made in USA of imported and domestic materials."

Yeah, the "imported materials" are probably the outsole, and everything
else.

"Assembled" may be more accurate.

Quoted message said:

They still have a couple of lines that are made in the US (whatever that
means) but most of them are made in China. The made in the US models are
fairly pricy.

The model I wear _is_ pricy. But I don't care.
I wear them because they're the best shoe for me
and I get good mileage out of them.

Quoted message said:

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Tom Phillips said:

The model I wear _is_ pricy. But I don't care.
I wear them because they're the best shoe for me
and I get good mileage out of them.

Sounds like a good reason to me. I always go for mid-low end models, but that's
because I find these better for me. I agree that you'll probably get more out
of a high end NB model than one of the low end trainers.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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Donovan Rebbechi said:

Tom Phillips said:

The model I wear _is_ pricy. But I don't care.
I wear them because they're the best shoe for me
and I get good mileage out of them.

Sounds like a good reason to me. I always go for mid-low end models, but that's
because I find these better for me. I agree that you'll probably get more out
of a high end NB model than one of the low end trainers.

Cheers,

I wear NB because I have a EEE foot and they are the only ones that fit
my feet with any consistency.

Textiles, shoes, clothing manufacturing goes to wear the cheapest labor
is. I remember in the 80's when all the shoes were Made in Korea. The
Korean shoe industry went bust when all the manufacturing went to
Indonesia, China, et al. No matter, now the Koreans make cars and
microchips. I just read that the Chinese are getting to export their
first cars to the US. That's the path of development: start with the
easy stuff first until you reach full employment, then move up the food
chain as your economy matures.

The slam against Nike is stupid: don't buy Nike shoes, so...what? So
the workers can go make $.25/hr at a local manufacturer or sweating on a
palm tree plantation, instead of $.50/hr at a Nike sub-contractor?

Runningman said:

The rubber/materials is a few pennies per pound, the indentured slave
labor/child labor is also a penny at most per pair of sneakers (you
should see these kids push out shoes ever hour on hidden camera) and
final product cost shipped is probably 1 or 2 dollars a pair yet they
sell these this at prices close to the price of italian leather mens
shoe made in italy (and some get there). No one would pay 50 dollars
for a book of matches yet people seem to have no problem spending
120-200+ for 2 dollar shoes. Forget it I will stick to good Italian
made shoes if I plan on spending 100-200 for footwear and If I am going
to be buying slavelabor sneakers I can get them atleast for 10-15
dollars (non nikes) that are made in the same plant. (

I buy all of my running shoes at factory Outlets. (Although Nike is
still the most expensive at the outlet mall) I go with Adidas I like
the fit and feel. Plus they are way less. The shoes are in no way
inferior. They may be an older model, or the colors of the shoe did not
sell. I bought a pair of Marathon trainers the other day for 22 dollars.
I like these for Fartlek on the trails. The reason they were cheap was
because they were sky blue , instead of royal blue. I am using them on
the trails so they will be darker soon. If you do not care about the
color or if it is the most recent shoe, then by all means try a factory
outlet. You can also get some great deals on technical running wear
there also.

"Christopher Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:36:59 -0800, Runningman wrote:
:
: > The rubber/materials is a few pennies per pound, the indentured slave
: > labor/child labor is also a penny at most per pair of sneakers (you
: > should see these kids push out shoes ever hour on hidden camera) and
: > final product cost shipped is probably 1 or 2 dollars a pair yet they
: > sell these this at prices close to the price of italian leather mens
: > shoe made in italy (and some get there). No one would pay 50 dollars
: > for a book of matches yet people seem to have no problem spending
: > 120-200+ for 2 dollar shoes. Forget it I will stick to good Italian
: > made shoes if I plan on spending 100-200 for footwear and If I am going
: > to be buying slavelabor sneakers I can get them atleast for 10-15
: > dollars (non nikes) that are made in the same plant. (
:
:
: I buy all of my running shoes at factory Outlets. (Although Nike is
: still the most expensive at the outlet mall) I go with Adidas I like
: the fit and feel. Plus they are way less. The shoes are in no way
: inferior. They may be an older model, or the colors of the shoe did not
: sell. I bought a pair of Marathon trainers the other day for 22 dollars.
: I like these for Fartlek on the trails. The reason they were cheap was
: because they were sky blue , instead of royal blue. I am using them on
: the trails so they will be darker soon. If you do not care about the
: color or if it is the most recent shoe, then by all means try a factory
: outlet. You can also get some great deals on technical running wear
: there also.

What about us guys who don't live near factory outlets???

Looking at my $80 Asic Gel, I see 16 pieces in the out sole,
and 12 in the uppers. I presume there are several other pieces
inside the sole, including the gel pod. It probably takes
at least an hour of labor to assemble this.
The $20 shoes will have three pieces- outer sole, inner sole,
and upper. The extra sole pieces are useful for stability.
Some of the extra upper pieces are for durability while others
are for decoration.