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  1. "GET OUT OF MY WAY!!"

    "CLEAR THE CYCLE LANE!!"

    These two women were in front of me. I didn't know them. I was behind
    them. This idiot thinks hes in the Tour De France and shouts the above
    things. He says something to the women as he passes them. I think he
    said "Listen next time". I was raging. These women were 50+. We all had
    to dive to the side and stand in the mud whilst he done his thing.

    It was just a basic, quiet cycle lane in the middle of a park. Not a
    road or anything.

    Why are they so cheeky?

  2. Quoted message said:

    "GET OUT OF MY WAY!!"

    "CLEAR THE CYCLE LANE!!"

    These two women were in front of me. I didn't know them. I was behind
    them. This idiot thinks hes in the Tour De France and shouts the above
    things. He says something to the women as he passes them. I think he
    said "Listen next time". I was raging. These women were 50+. We all had
    to dive to the side and stand in the mud whilst he done his thing.

    It was just a basic, quiet cycle lane in the middle of a park. Not a
    road or anything.

    Why are they so cheeky?

    The whole world is full of Selfish Gits - not just the cycling world...

  3. [email hidden] said the following on 19/09/2006 16:05:

    Quoted message said:

    Why are they so cheeky?

    That's not cheeky - it's downright rude and ignorant.

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  4. Den 2006-09-19 17:05:13 skrev <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    "GET OUT OF MY WAY!!"

    "CLEAR THE CYCLE LANE!!"

    These two women were in front of me. I didn't know them. I was behind
    them. This idiot thinks hes in the Tour De France and shouts the above
    things. He says something to the women as he passes them. I think he
    said "Listen next time". I was raging. These women were 50+. We all had
    to dive to the side and stand in the mud whilst he done his thing.

    It was just a basic, quiet cycle lane in the middle of a park. Not a
    road or anything.

    Why are they so cheeky?

    Probably because they think non-cyclists should stay off the cycle
    path/lane. No exceptions even for ladies 50+.

    Erik Sandblom
    --
    Oil is for sissies

  5. Quoted message said:

    These two women were in front of me. I didn't know them. These women were 50+.

    Still youngsters then?
    ;-)
    Dan Gregory

  6. Quoted message said:

    Why are they so cheeky?

    They are not. Your prejudice has tricked you into making a
    false generalization.

    If you replace "cyclists" in your post, with, say,
    "immigrants", and read the result, I think it will become
    plain to you what is going on.

    --
    Gareth Rees

  7. <davidchase wrote in message
    ....

    Quoted message said:

    "GET OUT OF MY WAY!!"

    "CLEAR THE CYCLE LANE!!"

    These two women were in front of me. I didn't know them. I was behind
    them. This idiot thinks hes in the Tour De France and shouts the above
    things. He says something to the women as he passes them. I think he
    said "Listen next time". I was raging. These women were 50+. We all had
    to dive to the side and stand in the mud whilst he done his thing.

    It was just a basic, quiet cycle lane in the middle of a park. Not a
    road or anything.

    Why are they so cheeky?


    They are thinking like motorists. They probably are motorists. If a motorist
    did the same (or hooted, or shouted something indecipherable as they shot
    past) you perhaps would think it normal, or rude or aggressive, but
    "cheeky". I think the choice of word says something about your view of the
    road pecking order.

    Mike

  8. Quoted message said:

    "GET OUT OF MY WAY!!"

    "CLEAR THE CYCLE LANE!!"

    These two women were in front of me. I didn't know them. I was behind
    them. This idiot thinks hes in the Tour De France and shouts the above
    things. He says something to the women as he passes them. I think he
    said "Listen next time". I was raging. These women were 50+. We all had
    to dive to the side and stand in the mud whilst he done his thing.

    It was just a basic, quiet cycle lane in the middle of a park. Not a
    road or anything.

    Why are they so cheeky?


    OK, I'll bite - was it a cycle lane or a mixed use path? If the
    former, and peds were loitering in it, I'd get upset too.... So were
    you and the young ladies on bikes or not? If on bikes then yes, he was
    'cheeky', but holding up faster riders isn't too clever either, IMHO.

  9. squeaker wrote:
    ....snip...

    Quoted message said:

    OK, I'll bite - was it a cycle lane or a mixed use path? If the
    former, and peds were loitering in it, I'd get upset too.... So were
    you and the young ladies on bikes or not? If on bikes then yes, he was
    'cheeky', but holding up faster riders isn't too clever either, IMHO.

    Every bike path I've seen (4 countries, possibly 5) eventually becomes
    a mixed use path; if not officially, then de facto. It's one of the
    main reasons I dislike bike paths.

    There are [stupid/selfish/rude/inconsiderate] people everywhere, not
    just on bikes. There are also [smart/giving/polite/considerate] people
    everywhere, including on bikes.

  10. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why are they so cheeky?

    They are not. Your prejudice has tricked you into making a
    false generalization.

    If you replace "cyclists" in your post, with, say,
    "immigrants", and read the result, I think it will become
    plain to you what is going on.

    We've got immigrant lanes now?
    --

    Martin Bulmer

  11. Martin Bulmer wrote on 20/09/2006 07:12 +0100:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why are they so cheeky?


    They are not. Your prejudice has tricked you into making a
    false generalization.

    If you replace "cyclists" in your post, with, say,
    "immigrants", and read the result, I think it will become
    plain to you what is going on.

    We've got immigrant lanes now?

    Yes, they're fast tracks ;-)

    --
    Tony

    "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
    his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
    - Leonardo da Vinci

  12. "squeaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    OK, I'll bite - was it a cycle lane or a mixed use path? If the
    former, and peds were loitering in it, I'd get upset too.... So were
    you and the young ladies on bikes or not? If on bikes then yes, he was
    'cheeky', but holding up faster riders isn't too clever either, IMHO.


    Indeed, pedestrians have a right to be annoyed at cyclists on pavements, so
    they should realise cyclists can feel the same about pedestrians on
    dedicated cycle paths.

    The other day I rang my bell to warn 4 line-a-breast pedestrians as I passed
    them (on the grass) on a dedicate cycle path and one shouted "[censored] off...you
    cyclist shouldn't ride on pavements!".

    Jc.

  13. On 19 Sep 2006 08:05:13 -0700 someone who may be
    [email hidden] wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    "GET OUT OF MY WAY!!"

    "CLEAR THE CYCLE LANE!!"

    These two women were in front of me. I didn't know them. I was behind
    them. This idiot thinks hes in the Tour De France and shouts the above
    things. He says something to the women as he passes them. I think he
    said "Listen next time". I was raging. These women were 50+. We all had
    to dive to the side and stand in the mud whilst he done his thing.

    You didn't bother to say whether it was a mixed use path, or a
    segregated one.

    If it was a mixed use one then the only person being rude was the
    cyclist; who should have slowed down, announced his presence and
    passed when it was safe to do so.

    If it was a segregated one then it is precisely the same for the
    cyclist. However, the two women were also being rude by not
    occupying the bit intended for pedestrians. That does not excuse the
    rudeness of the cyclist though.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh
    I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

  14. Josey said:

    The other day I rang my bell to warn 4 line-a-breast pedestrians as I passed
    them (on the grass) on a dedicate cycle path and one shouted "[censored] off...you
    cyclist shouldn't ride on pavements!".

    Yeah, I''ve had that, it's funny really: I carefully and slowly passed
    a woman on the cycle side of a shared-use facility, made no comment,
    and she shouted at me for being on the pavement. She was standing on
    the painted white bicycle, so I guess she didn't see it. This
    particular path is also used as a drop-off point for shoppers, the car
    stops on the road and the passengers de-bus on to the cyclepath,
    relying on the open car door to protect them from bikes at up to 30mph
    hitting them.

  15. Martin Bulmer said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why are they so cheeky?


    They are not. Your prejudice has tricked you into making a
    false generalization.

    If you replace "cyclists" in your post, with, say,
    "immigrants", and read the result, I think it will become
    plain to you what is going on.

    We've got immigrant lanes now?


    EU & non EU....

  16. sothach said the following on 20/09/2006 10:05:

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah, I''ve had that, it's funny really: I carefully and slowly passed
    a woman on the cycle side of a shared-use facility, made no comment,
    and she shouted at me for being on the pavement. She was standing on
    the painted white bicycle, so I guess she didn't see it.

    It also quite amusing when you ask them what they think that funny white
    painted symbol they've just walked over is meant to show. Not only can
    these morons not read, they can't even seem to understand simple pictograms!

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  17. On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:50:33 +0100 someone who may be "Josey"
    <nospam@josey> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    The other day I rang my bell to warn 4 line-a-breast pedestrians as I passed
    them (on the grass) on a dedicate cycle path

    Such things are very rare. However, even being a "dedicated" cycle
    path does not mean that pedestrians can't use it, just like
    pedestrians can use roads.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh
    I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

  18. Josey nospam@josey said:


    "squeaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    OK, I'll bite - was it a cycle lane or a mixed use path? If the
    former, and peds were loitering in it, I'd get upset too.... So were
    you and the young ladies on bikes or not? If on bikes then yes, he was
    'cheeky', but holding up faster riders isn't too clever either, IMHO.


    Indeed, pedestrians have a right to be annoyed at cyclists on pavements, so
    they should realise cyclists can feel the same about pedestrians on
    dedicated cycle paths.

    Well, possibly. However, since there's no such thing as a dedicated
    cycle path in teh UK, the would-0be annoyed cyclist has no cause for
    concern.

    regards, Ian SMith
    --
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    |o o|
    |/ \|

  19. Ian Smith said:
    Josey nospam@josey said:


    "squeaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    OK, I'll bite - was it a cycle lane or a mixed use path? If the
    former, and peds were loitering in it, I'd get upset too.... So were
    you and the young ladies on bikes or not? If on bikes then yes, he was
    'cheeky', but holding up faster riders isn't too clever either, IMHO.


    Indeed, pedestrians have a right to be annoyed at cyclists on pavements, so
    they should realise cyclists can feel the same about pedestrians on
    dedicated cycle paths.

    Well, possibly. However, since there's no such thing as a dedicated
    cycle path in teh UK, the would-0be annoyed cyclist has no cause for
    concern.

    Hmmm.
    Here's a pic taken earlier this year.
    I'll be cycling along this route on Friday

    I think I'll prime up the AirZound ;-)

    http://www.velotree.co.uk/cyclepathquiz.html

    John B

  20. Ian Smith said:


    Well, possibly. However, since there's no such thing as a dedicated
    cycle path in teh UK, the would-0be annoyed cyclist has no cause for
    concern.

    I often find that pedestrians walk on the road itself (particularly
    little narrow side-roads) when there is a perfectly good pavement for
    them. (Especially near Barts hospital)

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