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  1. Heya folks,

    I have been going to my local Asian/everythingelse market, and they
    have fresh whole ducks there. With the head and feet on them. A
    reasonable price too...$7:95 for a good sized duck.

    They are calling to me...although I have never really cooked a great
    duck dish yet, or even roasted a great duck.

    With the NM cook-in coming up in two weeks, I am thinking of duck
    stock, for some odd reason, plus duck fat..... Mostly the duck
    fat....😉

    I am not sure what I am asking here..but if I get one of these I want
    to know how to cook it. I have tried recipes before, but haven't been
    the most sucessful at cooking these... Do any of you have tried and
    true recipes...that will yield a good amount of duck fat..and maybe
    even yield duck stock from the carcass..... Plus it has to be
    delicious....😉

    Do the duck feet yield anything? The neck? I would have to cut the
    head and feet off....

    Christine

  2. Christine Dabney wrote:

    <bit of snipping>

    Quoted message said:


    With the NM cook-in coming up in two weeks, I am thinking of duck
    stock, for some odd reason, plus duck fat..... Mostly the duck
    fat....😉

    I am not sure what I am asking here..but if I get one of these I want
    to know how to cook it. I have tried recipes before, but haven't been
    the most sucessful at cooking these... Do any of you have tried and
    true recipes...that will yield a good amount of duck fat..and maybe
    even yield duck stock from the carcass..... Plus it has to be
    delicious....😉

    Question: do you have a rotisserie thingumy? I seem to remember you
    mentioned once that you had either bought one, or were thinking of buying
    one, dunno. Anyhoo, I have roasted a duck on our rotisserie in the oven and
    it came out pretty good. (The fat dripped off into the drip-tray). Nothing
    stopping you making stock from the carcass either.

    Quoted message said:


    Do the duck feet yield anything? The neck? I would have to cut the
    head and feet off....

    I would use the neck for stock too, but as for the feet, not a clue 😉 All
    the ducks I have bought have been beheaded and de-footed (is that a word?).
    --
    Cheers
    Chatty Cathy

    Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

  3. ChattyCathy said:

    Christine Dabney wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    Question: do you have a rotisserie thingumy? I seem to remember you
    mentioned once that you had either bought one, or were thinking of buying
    one, dunno.


    No, didn't get one. Yet.

    Anyhoo, I have roasted a duck on our rotisserie in the oven and

    Quoted message said:

    it came out pretty good. (The fat dripped off into the drip-tray). Nothing
    stopping you making stock from the carcass either.

    Yes, that is what I am thinking...

    Christine

  4. Christine asked:

    Quoted message said:

    Do the duck feet yield anything?

    Remember that Washington DC Chinese restaurant you recommended, Joe's Noodle
    House? On my visit there, I had a dish of cold stewed duck feet with chili
    oil and Szechuan peppercorn oil.

    Bob

  5. "Christine Dabney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Heya folks,

    I have been going to my local Asian/everythingelse market, and they
    have fresh whole ducks there. With the head and feet on them. A
    reasonable price too...$7:95 for a good sized duck.

    They are calling to me...although I have never really cooked a great
    duck dish yet, or even roasted a great duck.

    With the NM cook-in coming up in two weeks, I am thinking of duck
    stock, for some odd reason, plus duck fat..... Mostly the duck
    fat....😉

    I am not sure what I am asking here..but if I get one of these I want
    to know how to cook it. I have tried recipes before, but haven't been
    the most sucessful at cooking these... Do any of you have tried and
    true recipes...that will yield a good amount of duck fat..and maybe
    even yield duck stock from the carcass..... Plus it has to be
    delicious....😉

    Google wor shu op. It is a fabulous dish in which the duck is deep fried to
    a crsip after being braised in duck stock. It is just delightful when done
    right.

    Here is the best I could do for the recipe. It seems like what I remember
    eating at an outstanding restaurant where I was a regular patron. In fact I
    loved it so much they used to ask me if I wanted it every time I went in. I
    never said no.

    Pressed Duck with Sweet and Sour Plum Sauce (Wor Shu Op)
    Servings: 6 servings (1 if you like it as much as I do)

    Ingredients:
    5 lb. Long Island duck, cleaned
    1 tbsp. Chinese five-spice powder
    1 tsp. salt
    1 cup water chestnut powder
    Sweet and sour plum sauce
    Oil for deep frying
    Crushed toasted almonds

    Directions:
    Place duck in large kettle or Dutch oven with enough boiling water to cover.
    Add spices and salt and simmer covered until tender, about 1 to 1-1/4 hours.
    Remove duck from liquid and let cool.

    Remove meat from bones and discard skin (where I had it they kept the skin
    on). Pour chestnut powder into small baking pan. Press meat into powder,
    keep rolling it to get a heavy coating. Cover and steam 30 minutes in a
    bamboo steamer, or until powder has gelatinized into thick, heavy crust.
    Remove from steamer and let cool. Cover and chill until ready to complete.

    About 30 minutes before serving time, prepare sweet and sour plum sauce; set
    aside and keep warm. Warm a serving platter in low oven. Preheat oil in deep
    fryer to 375°F. (note: here is where you may want to use two oil fryers to
    be sure you do not cool the oil too much. The magic of this dish is the
    incredible crispness of the duck skin and the almost creamy meat.

    Slice chilled duck into bite-size chunks and deep fry quickly in batches
    until crisp and browned. Remove with slotted spoon and drain on paper
    towels. Repeat until cooking is completed. Serve immediately with warm sweet
    and sour plum sauce topped with nuts.

    I would do a dry run of this dish before serving it to guests. Get two
    ducks. The neat thing is when you are done you have duck broth which you
    can toss the bones and some veggies into to make stock. And of course all
    that precious duck fat which is a whole new world of cooking.

    Quoted message said:

    Do the duck feet yield anything? The neck? I would have to cut the
    head and feet off....

    They eat duck's feet in Asia. Can't be much as far as flavor goes. Neck,
    feet and head into the stock pot. Roast a bit first.

    Good luck - you'll love this dish.

    Paul

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, artisan2
    @ix.netcom.com says...

    Quoted message said:

    Heya folks,

    I have been going to my local Asian/everythingelse market, and they
    have fresh whole ducks there. With the head and feet on them. A
    reasonable price too...$7:95 for a good sized duck.

    They are calling to me...although I have never really cooked a great
    duck dish yet, or even roasted a great duck.

    With the NM cook-in coming up in two weeks, I am thinking of duck
    stock, for some odd reason, plus duck fat..... Mostly the duck
    fat....😉

    I am not sure what I am asking here..but if I get one of these I want
    to know how to cook it. I have tried recipes before, but haven't been
    the most sucessful at cooking these... Do any of you have tried and
    true recipes...that will yield a good amount of duck fat..and maybe
    even yield duck stock from the carcass..... Plus it has to be
    delicious....😉

    Do the duck feet yield anything? The neck? I would have to cut the
    head and feet off....

    Christine

    If I were going to a cook in and wanted to treat my pals to a great
    dish, the last thing I would do is something that I had always failed
    at.

    But, if you insist, I recall Alton Brown doing a few duck recipes a
    while back. His instructions are usually pretty clear.

    --
    Peter Aitken

  7. Christine Dabney said:

    I am not sure what I am asking here..but if I get one of these I want
    to know how to cook it. I have tried recipes before, but haven't been
    the most sucessful at cooking these... Do any of you have tried and
    true recipes...that will yield a good amount of duck fat..and maybe
    even yield duck stock from the carcass..... Plus it has to be
    delicious....😉

    The absolute best thing you can do to a duck is smoke it. But
    it's kinda hard to capture the rendered fat neatly.

    -sw

  8. Paul M. Cook said:

    "Christine Dabney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Heya folks,

    I have been going to my local Asian/everythingelse market, and they
    have fresh whole ducks there. With the head and feet on them. A
    reasonable price too...$7:95 for a good sized duck.

    They are calling to me...although I have never really cooked a great
    duck dish yet, or even roasted a great duck.

    With the NM cook-in coming up in two weeks, I am thinking of duck
    stock, for some odd reason, plus duck fat..... Mostly the duck
    fat....😉

    I am not sure what I am asking here..but if I get one of these I want
    to know how to cook it. I have tried recipes before, but haven't
    been the most sucessful at cooking these... Do any of you have
    tried and true recipes...that will yield a good amount of duck
    fat..and maybe even yield duck stock from the carcass..... Plus it
    has to be delicious....😉

    Google wor shu op. It is a fabulous dish in which the duck is deep
    fried to a crsip after being braised in duck stock. It is just
    delightful when done right.

    Here is the best I could do for the recipe. It seems like what I
    remember eating at an outstanding restaurant where I was a regular
    patron. In fact I loved it so much they used to ask me if I wanted
    it every time I went in. I never said no.

    Pressed Duck with Sweet and Sour Plum Sauce (Wor Shu Op)
    Servings: 6 servings (1 if you like it as much as I do)

    Ingredients:
    5 lb. Long Island duck, cleaned
    1 tbsp. Chinese five-spice powder
    1 tsp. salt
    1 cup water chestnut powder
    Sweet and sour plum sauce
    Oil for deep frying
    Crushed toasted almonds

    Directions:
    Place duck in large kettle or Dutch oven with enough boiling water to
    cover. Add spices and salt and simmer covered until tender, about 1
    to 1-1/4 hours. Remove duck from liquid and let cool.

    Remove meat from bones and discard skin (where I had it they kept the
    skin on). Pour chestnut powder into small baking pan. Press meat
    into powder, keep rolling it to get a heavy coating. Cover and steam
    30 minutes in a bamboo steamer, or until powder has gelatinized into
    thick, heavy crust. Remove from steamer and let cool. Cover and chill
    until ready to complete.

    About 30 minutes before serving time, prepare sweet and sour plum
    sauce; set aside and keep warm. Warm a serving platter in low oven.
    Preheat oil in deep fryer to 375°F. (note: here is where you may
    want to use two oil fryers to be sure you do not cool the oil too
    much. The magic of this dish is the incredible crispness of the duck
    skin and the almost creamy meat.

    Slice chilled duck into bite-size chunks and deep fry quickly in
    batches until crisp and browned. Remove with slotted spoon and drain
    on paper towels. Repeat until cooking is completed. Serve immediately
    with warm sweet and sour plum sauce topped with nuts.

    I would do a dry run of this dish before serving it to guests. Get
    two ducks. The neat thing is when you are done you have duck broth
    which you can toss the bones and some veggies into to make stock.
    And of course all that precious duck fat which is a whole new world
    of cooking.

    Quoted message said:

    Do the duck feet yield anything? The neck? I would have to cut the
    head and feet off....

    They eat duck's feet in Asia. Can't be much as far as flavor goes.
    Neck, feet and head into the stock pot. Roast a bit first.

    Good luck - you'll love this dish.

    Paul

    This recipe sounds wonderful! I've saved it for a later date. Thanks,
    Paul!

    kili

  9. Steve Wertz said:
    Christine Dabney said:

    I am not sure what I am asking here..but if I get one of these I want
    to know how to cook it. I have tried recipes before, but haven't
    been the most sucessful at cooking these... Do any of you have
    tried and true recipes...that will yield a good amount of duck
    fat..and maybe even yield duck stock from the carcass..... Plus it
    has to be delicious....😉

    The absolute best thing you can do to a duck is smoke it. But
    it's kinda hard to capture the rendered fat neatly.

    -sw

    Yep, we've smoked duck before and the thing never even reached a plate. We
    pulled it from the WSM, and like wolves, we gobbled it down, hunched over
    the counter. It was so fun, we giggled like naughty kids while we ate.
    Delicious!

    kili

  10. Steve Wertz said:
    Christine Dabney said:

    I am not sure what I am asking here..but if I get one of these I want
    to know how to cook it. I have tried recipes before, but haven't been
    the most sucessful at cooking these... Do any of you have tried and
    true recipes...that will yield a good amount of duck fat..and maybe
    even yield duck stock from the carcass..... Plus it has to be
    delicious....😉

    The absolute best thing you can do to a duck is smoke it. But
    it's kinda hard to capture the rendered fat neatly.

    Remember on The Beverly Hillbillies, when Jethro told the hippies in
    Griffith Park that his granny smoked crawdads?

    Quoted message said:


    -sw

    --Bryan

  11. Christine Dabney said:

    Heya folks,

    I have been going to my local Asian/everythingelse market, and they
    have fresh whole ducks there. With the head and feet on them. A
    reasonable price too...$7:95 for a good sized duck.

    They are calling to me...although I have never really cooked a great
    duck dish yet, or even roasted a great duck.

    With the NM cook-in coming up in two weeks, I am thinking of duck
    stock, for some odd reason, plus duck fat..... Mostly the duck
    fat....😉

    I am not sure what I am asking here..but if I get one of these I want
    to know how to cook it. I have tried recipes before, but haven't been
    the most sucessful at cooking these... Do any of you have tried and
    true recipes...that will yield a good amount of duck fat..and maybe
    even yield duck stock from the carcass..... Plus it has to be
    delicious....😉

    Are they pre-plucked?

    Quoted message said:


    Do the duck feet yield anything? The neck? I would have to cut the
    head and feet off....

    Whatever you do, serve it to guests, head-and-feet-on.
    If you could pop out the eyeballs first and replace them with
    something shiny, that'd be a nice touch too.

    Quoted message said:


    Christine

    --Bryan

  12. Peter A said:


    If I were going to a cook in and wanted to treat my pals to a great
    dish, the last thing I would do is something that I had always failed
    at.

    Peter!

    <shocked look>

    Does your above remark imply that you have actually "failed" at anything?
    Well, I never!

    Quoted message said:


    But, if you insist, I recall Alton Brown doing a few duck recipes a
    while back. His instructions are usually pretty clear.


    Didn't take enough of your "being polite" pills today again, I see.

    --
    Cheers
    Chatty Cathy

    Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

  13. kilikini said:
    Steve Wertz said:

    On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:58:21 -0600, Christine Dabney wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am not sure what I am asking here..but if I get one of these I want
    to know how to cook it. I have tried recipes before, but haven't
    been the most sucessful at cooking these... Do any of you have
    tried and true recipes...that will yield a good amount of duck
    fat..and maybe even yield duck stock from the carcass..... Plus it
    has to be delicious....😉

    Quoted message said:

    The absolute best thing you can do to a duck is smoke it. But
    it's kinda hard to capture the rendered fat neatly.

    Quoted message said:

    -sw

    Yep, we've smoked duck before and the thing never even reached a plate. We
    pulled it from the WSM, and like wolves, we gobbled it down, hunched over
    the counter.

    It was so fun, we giggled like naughty kids while we ate.

    ---> http://aflac.com/us/en/Default.aspx

    Brute!

    Quackquackquackquackquack...

    Sheldon

  14. ChattyCathy said:
    Peter A said:


    If I were going to a cook in and wanted to treat my pals to a great
    dish, the last thing I would do is something that I had always failed
    at.

    I can heartilly agree with that.

    Quoted message said:

    Peter!

    <shocked look>

    Does your above remark imply that you have actually "failed" at anything?
    Well, I never!

    Hmm, good point.

    I've perfected cheap restaurant nachos, myself. It's What's For
    Breakfast.

    This thread is making me yearn for duck. I've got an empty rack
    on my smoker right now (which is pumping away at 245F doing a
    brisket) and the only poultry I have is swimming in the back yard
    - the geese always move upstream during the rains.

    -sw

  15. kilikini said:

    Yep, we've smoked duck before and the thing never even reached a plate. We
    pulled it from the WSM, and like wolves, we gobbled it down, hunched over
    the counter. It was so fun, we giggled like naughty kids while we ate.
    Delicious!

    That *is* what it does to you.

    -sw

  16. The Truthful Assh0le said:

    Whatever you do, serve it to guests, head-and-feet-on.
    If you could pop out the eyeballs first and replace them with
    something shiny, that'd be a nice touch too.

    My first duck I smoked was whole (but gutted, of course), and I
    tied the feet to the to head with fishing line and left it for
    the girls downstairs to find. They took it into their mom and
    asked if she could save it.

    -sw

  17. On 17 Aug 2007 03:48:02 -0500, "Bob Terwilliger"

    virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:

    Christine asked:

    Quoted message said:

    Do the duck feet yield anything?

    Remember that Washington DC Chinese restaurant you recommended, Joe's Noodle
    House? On my visit there, I had a dish of cold stewed duck feet with chili
    oil and Szechuan peppercorn oil.

    Bob

    so did you like it?

    your pal,
    blake

  18. Steve Wertz said:
    ChattyCathy said:
    Peter A said:


    If I were going to a cook in and wanted to treat my pals to a great
    dish, the last thing I would do is something that I had always failed
    at.

    I can heartilly agree with that.

    Well, isn't that just...... fine.

    --
    Cheers
    Chatty Cathy

    Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible


  19. Quoted message said:

    This recipe sounds wonderful! I've saved it for a later date. Thanks,
    Paul!

    You can't go wrong with Cantonese cuisine, as a rule. Very compatible with
    western tastes. Now that we're talking about it, I just have to make this
    dish myself. I have never made it but it seems pretty doable and not overly
    fussy.

    Paul

  20. On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:20:28 -0400, Peter A <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    If I were going to a cook in and wanted to treat my pals to a great
    dish, the last thing I would do is something that I had always failed
    at.

    But, if you insist, I recall Alton Brown doing a few duck recipes a
    while back. His instructions are usually pretty clear.

    This is not for any guests, just for me. 😉

    Thanks anyway.

    Christine

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