Who makes how many jerseys?

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So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow,
green, etc, the

rider's

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team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a
new jersey for

each

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day?

Yes.

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2) Who makes those jerseys?

Nike.

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3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any
possibility of the

They iron the logos on after the stage has been decided.

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

There are none.

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Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was just
wondering if anyone knew these logistics....

Dave

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So I've always wondered this....

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1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a
new jersey for

each

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day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow
over an existng

one

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on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also
think I saw one year a stack of yellow's in the back of a
truck where they took the one

off

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the top to give to Lance for that day.

The podium jersey is just for the cameras, so yes if the
rider of the stage is in yellow he will be given another
jellow jersey to put on. You'll also see a big (stick on)
logo of the riders team sponsor that isn't on the true race
day jersey. Again for the sponsor billboard. I don't think
you would want to ride with the podium jersey on, it's made
very big to fit any possible rider size and would catch a
ton on wind. For the rider the next day they have a bunch of
jerseys in all sizes (just like you see advertised for us
mortals to buy (for a price).

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Quoted message said:

So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow,
green, etc, the

rider's

Quoted message said:

team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a
new jersey for

each

Quoted message said:

day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow
over an existng

one

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on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also
think I saw one year a stack of yellow's in the back of a
truck where they took the one

off

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the top to give to Lance for that day.

They get a new set each day. If I'm not mistaken, each
set contains a long- and a short-sleeved jersey, as well
as a TT suit.

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2) Who makes those jerseys? Are the teams responsible? Or
do the tour organizers do it?

The tour organizers have large stickers, with the team
sponsors on them, that can be pressed on the jerseys very
quickly. They prepare them before the award ceremony when
it's clear who is going to wear the jerseys.

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3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any
possibility of the permutations of riders, number of
days, teams etc so they don't run out if some
unexpected results happen (what, 4 types of jersey,
times (I think)

21

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teams, times (on an average year) 21 stages adds up to a
heck of a lot of clothing that can go unused) This does
not even go into worrying about

the

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right size for riders.

The teams do not carry around classification jerseys.
They are in possession of the tour organization until
they are awarded.

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

You can buy jerseys of all types (yellow, green, etc.), in
different sizes ofcourse. I would assume that the winner's
jerseys come from that stack, so it is clear that the
surplus is sold. Last year, there was footage after every
stage of the winner signing a stack of jerseys and these are
ofcourse even more interesting to sell.

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Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was just
wondering if anyone knew these logistics....

Dave

Cyclingnews.com has a useful tour faq. I'm not sure if your
questions are answered there, so here you are. Corrections
are welcome ofcourse.

Jonathan.

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So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow,
green, etc, the

rider's

Quoted message said:

team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a
new jersey for

each

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day?

Yes

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2) Who makes those jerseys?

Nike

Are the teams responsible?

No

Or do the tour organizers do it?

Yes.

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

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I kida figured it had to be something like that. Low tech,
but does the job. And some of the other posts mentioned the
podium jersey zipping up the back; I had completely
forgotten abut that.

Dave

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So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow,
green, etc, the

rider's

Quoted message said:

team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a
new jersey for

each

Quoted message said:

day?

Yes.

Quoted message said:

2) Who makes those jerseys?

Nike.

Quoted message said:

3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any
possibility of

the

Quoted message said:

They iron the logos on after the stage has been decided.

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

There are none.

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Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was
just wondering if anyone knew these logistics....

Dave

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There was an article about this last year, possibly in the
NY Times. There is a van that comes along with the tour,
with a guy who slaps the winner's logos on appropriate-
colored jerseys for each stage. So I guess he has a supply
of plain yellow, green, white and polka-dot jerseys in
different sizes, plus a stack of sponsor logos.

Nope just one size fits all.

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Dunno whether the podium jerseys, which seem to zip up the
back, are the

same as the ones worn the next day

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during the ride,

Nope, just for the podium "dog and pony" show.

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and I forget whether the article mentioned whether the
logos were iron-on, but I doubt that he sits there with a
sewing machine.

Nope, stick on, just like the numbers on the rider's hips.

its funny how the conversations change when the internet
audio feed dies,

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There was an article about this last year, possibly in
the NY Times.

There

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is a van that comes along with the tour, with a guy who
slaps the

winner's

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logos on appropriate-colored jerseys for each stage. So
I guess he has a supply of plain yellow, green, white
and polka-dot jerseys in different sizes, plus a stack
of sponsor logos.

Nope just one size fits all.

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Dunno whether the podium jerseys, which seem to zip up
the back, are the

same as the ones worn the next day

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during the ride,

Nope, just for the podium "dog and pony" show.

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and I forget whether the article mentioned whether the
logos were iron-on, but I doubt that he sits there with
a sewing

machine.

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Nope, stick on, just like the numbers on the rider's hips.

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So I've always wondered this....

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

Well, I'd like to argue for a 1/2 point because I was
referring to the non existant jerseys implied in the
question.

For example, the hypothetical USPS prologue yellow jersey
that was never used and does not exist.

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So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow,
green, etc, the

rider's

Quoted message said:

team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a
new jersey for

each

Quoted message said:

day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow
over an existng

one

Quoted message said:

on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also
think I saw

one

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

year a stack of yellow's in the back of a truck where
they took the one

off

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the top to give to Lance for that day.

They get a new set each day. If I'm not mistaken, each set
contains a

long-

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and a short-sleeved jersey, as well as a TT suit.

They only get skinsuits on days they may need them. I do
think they get a long and short sleeve as you indicated
though along with the podium jersey. It is funny because the
winner normally gives jerseys away to team mates,
politicians, etc and never seems to run out. The really
prized jerseys are those that are actually worn in the race
folowed by podium and then jerseys that were not worn. I
would not be surprised at all to find out that the winner
can ask for a few extras for photo ops although I have heard
that the organizers don't want the public to have that
impression so I don't know how they decide which requests
from the winer to honor.

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2) Who makes those jerseys? Are the teams responsible?
Or do the tour organizers do it?

The tour organizers have large stickers, with the team
sponsors on them, that can be pressed on the jerseys very
quickly. They prepare them before the award ceremony when
it's clear who is going to wear the jerseys.

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3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any
possibility of

the

Quoted message said:

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permutations of riders, number of days, teams etc so
they don't run out

if

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some unexpected results happen (what, 4 types of jersey,
times (I think)

21

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teams, times (on an average year) 21 stages adds up to a
heck of a lot

of

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clothing that can go unused) This does not even go into
worrying about

the

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right size for riders.

The teams do not carry around classification jerseys.
They are in

possession

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of the tour organization until they are awarded.

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

You can buy jerseys of all types (yellow, green, etc.), in
different sizes ofcourse. I would assume that the winner's
jerseys come from that stack,

so

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it is clear that the surplus is sold. Last year, there was
footage after every stage of the winner signing a stack of
jerseys and these are

ofcourse

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even more interesting to sell.

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Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was
just wondering if anyone knew these logistics....

Dave

Cyclingnews.com has a useful tour faq. I'm not sure if
your questions are answered there, so here you are.
Corrections are welcome ofcourse.

Jonathan.

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I kida figured it had to be something like that. Low tech,
but does the job. And some of the other posts mentioned
the podium jersey zipping up

the

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back; I had completely forgotten abut that.

Dave

I do think there are more than one per day and that there
are "extra" jerseys. Back in the day (so to speak) anyone
outside of what was considered the "normal" size range for a
"Euro-dog" had to put up with a jersey that did not fit.
These days, I have not seen a poorly fitting jersey in many
years and the ranges of riders these days is far more than
ever before. That is strong evidence to me that there are
plenty of extra sizes. They always have a full Tour's worth
for the favorite riders and then they have the extras. I
remember one year Stephen Roche had to wear a massively over-
sized jersey that was tamed with safety pins. It neded up OK
in photos if you did not know what to look for. Back then,
the jerseys typically went down a bit further anyway and the
bottom would often sit just above the peak of the rider's
buttocks. Look at most of today's riders and the jersey
normally ends just a few inches below the waist and most of
the riders have similar fitting jerseys. I see more variety
in short lengths but that seems to involve preference more
so than jerseys do (which is surprising to me but I am only
observing here).

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So I've always wondered this....

<snip>

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

Well, I'd like to argue for a 1/2 point because I was
referring to the non existant jerseys implied in the
question.

For example, the hypothetical USPS prologue yellow jersey
that was never used and does not exist.

Why not? I bet Lance gets that one and will keep it to use
as he pleases. I doubt he actually "turned it away". He
likely got it but did not use it. He will give that one to
someone he owes a favor to...

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> 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

Well, I'd like to argue for a 1/2 point because I was
referring to the

non

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existant jerseys implied in the question.

For example, the hypothetical USPS prologue yellow
jersey that was never used and does not exist.

Why not? I bet Lance gets that one and will keep it to use
as he pleases.

I

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doubt he actually "turned it away". He likely got it but
did not use it.

He

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will give that one to someone he owes a favor to...

I'll be clearer. Not for the start of the prologue, but for
the winner of the prologue. The op assumed that they made a
yellow jersey for every team for every stage.

TM said:

I'll be clearer. Not for the start of the prologue, but
for the winner of the prologue. The op assumed that they
made a yellow jersey for every team for every stage.

What about winners of other stages? They should at least get
a T-shirt or something.

Front: I won stage 9 of the 2004 Tour... Back: ... and all I
got was this lousy T-shirt.

This is one incredible thread! Just to clear things up,
riders DO NOT use the podium jersey for anything other then
the podium. However, I like everyone would love to get my
mits on one of those jerseys.

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TM said:

I'll be clearer. Not for the start of the prologue, but
for the winner

of

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the prologue. The op assumed that they made a yellow
jersey for every

team

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for every stage.

What about winners of other stages? They should at least
get a T-shirt or

something.

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Front: I won stage 9 of the 2004 Tour... Back: ... and all
I got was this lousy T-shirt.

(And about 10.000)

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So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow,
green, etc, the

rider's

Quoted message said:

team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a
new jersey for

each

Quoted message said:

day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow
over an existng

one

Quoted message said:

on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also
think I saw one year a stack of yellow's in the back of
a truck where they took the one

off

Quoted message said:

the top to give to Lance for that day.

They get a new set each day. If I'm not mistaken, each set
contains a long- and a short-sleeved jersey, as well as a
TT suit.

Quoted message said:

2) Who makes those jerseys? Are the teams responsible?
Or do the tour organizers do it?

The tour organizers have large stickers, with the team
sponsors on them, that can be pressed on the jerseys very
quickly. They prepare them before the award ceremony when
it's clear who is going to wear the jerseys.

Wow -- your first non-SPAM post in YEARS!

Thanks, Ken

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3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any
possibility of the permutations of riders, number of
days, teams etc so they don't run out if some
unexpected results happen (what, 4 types of jersey,
times (I think)

21

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teams, times (on an average year) 21 stages adds up to a
heck of a lot of clothing that can go unused) This does
not even go into worrying about

the

Quoted message said:

right size for riders.

The teams do not carry around classification jerseys. They
are in possession of the tour organization until they are
awarded.

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

For Homeless people if Jonny vds. had his way.

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TM said:

I'll be clearer. Not for the start of the prologue,
but for the

winner

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of

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the prologue. The op assumed that they made a yellow
jersey for every

team

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for every stage.

What about winners of other stages? They should at least
get a T-shirt

or

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something.

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Front: I won stage 9 of the 2004 Tour... Back: ... and
all I got was this lousy T-shirt.

(And about 10.000)

Divided between all the team members...

Dave said:

So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow,
green, etc, the rider's team (main) logo is on the jersey.
So with that....

There was an article posted here last year about the man who
makes the tour jerseys. Quite an efficient operation by all
accounts. The link was posted in the newsgroup and you can
Google for it if you don't mind people thinking that you are
a stalker or something. This should be in the FAQ, but we
haven't updated that since April 2003 because there has been
more important stuff happening.

(zboy) said:

This is one incredible thread! Just to clear things up,
riders DO NOT use the podium jersey for anything other then
the podium. However, I like everyone would love to get my
mits on one of those jerseys.

Why? What value would a jersey someone else won with no help
from you have?

I have a mountain leaders jersey from a smallish race a
teammate won -- I helped him a little in winning that.
_That's_ a cool jersey. For
me.

JT