Who makes how many jerseys?

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So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the

rider's

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team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for

each

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day?

Yes.

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2) Who makes those jerseys?

Nike.

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3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any possibility of the

They iron the logos on after the stage has been decided.

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

There are none.

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Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was just wondering if
anyone knew these logistics....

Dave

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So I've always wondered this....

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1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for

each

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day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow over an existng

one

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on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also think I saw one
year a stack of yellow's in the back of a truck where they took the one

off

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the top to give to Lance for that day.

The podium jersey is just for the cameras, so yes if the rider of the stage
is in yellow he will be given another jellow jersey to put on. You'll also
see a big (stick on) logo of the riders team sponsor that isn't on the true
race day jersey. Again for the sponsor billboard. I don't think you would
want to ride with the podium jersey on, it's made very big to fit any
possible rider size and would catch a ton on wind. For the rider the next
day they have a bunch of jerseys in all sizes (just like you see advertised
for us mortals to buy (for a price).

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Quoted message said:

So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the

rider's

Quoted message said:

team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for

each

Quoted message said:

day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow over an existng

one

Quoted message said:

on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also think I saw one
year a stack of yellow's in the back of a truck where they took the one

off

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the top to give to Lance for that day.

They get a new set each day. If I'm not mistaken, each set contains a long-
and a short-sleeved jersey, as well as a TT suit.

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2) Who makes those jerseys? Are the teams responsible? Or do the tour
organizers do it?

The tour organizers have large stickers, with the team sponsors on them,
that can be pressed on the jerseys very quickly. They prepare them before
the award ceremony when it's clear who is going to wear the jerseys.

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3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any possibility of the
permutations of riders, number of days, teams etc so they don't run out if
some unexpected results happen (what, 4 types of jersey, times (I think)

21

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teams, times (on an average year) 21 stages adds up to a heck of a lot of
clothing that can go unused) This does not even go into worrying about

the

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right size for riders.

The teams do not carry around classification jerseys. They are in possession
of the tour organization until they are awarded.

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

You can buy jerseys of all types (yellow, green, etc.), in different sizes
ofcourse. I would assume that the winner's jerseys come from that stack, so
it is clear that the surplus is sold. Last year, there was footage after
every stage of the winner signing a stack of jerseys and these are ofcourse
even more interesting to sell.

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Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was just wondering if
anyone knew these logistics....

Dave

Cyclingnews.com has a useful tour faq. I'm not sure if your questions are
answered there, so here you are. Corrections are welcome ofcourse.

Jonathan.

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So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the

rider's

Quoted message said:

team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for

each

Quoted message said:

day?

Yes

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2) Who makes those jerseys?

Nike

Are the teams responsible?

No

Or do the tour organizers do it?

Yes.

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

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Dave said:

So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the rider's
team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for each
day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow over an existng one
on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also think I saw one
year a stack of yellow's in the back of a truck where they took the one off
the top to give to Lance for that day.

2) Who makes those jerseys? Are the teams responsible? Or do the tour
organizers do it?

3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any possibility of the
permutations of riders, number of days, teams etc so they don't run out if
some unexpected results happen (what, 4 types of jersey, times (I think) 21
teams, times (on an average year) 21 stages adds up to a heck of a lot of
clothing that can go unused) This does not even go into worrying about the
right size for riders.

4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was just wondering if
anyone knew these logistics....

Dave

There was an article about this last year, possibly in the NY Times. There
is a van that comes along with the tour, with a guy who slaps the winner's
logos on appropriate-colored jerseys for each stage. So I guess he has a
supply of plain yellow, green, white and polka-dot jerseys in different
sizes, plus a stack of sponsor logos. Dunno whether the podium jerseys,
which seem to zip up the back, are the same as the ones worn the next day
during the ride, and I forget whether the article mentioned whether the
logos were iron-on, but I doubt that he sits there with a sewing machine.

AMG

I kida figured it had to be something like that. Low tech, but does the
job. And some of the other posts mentioned the podium jersey zipping up the
back; I had completely forgotten abut that.

Dave

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So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the

rider's

Quoted message said:

team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for

each

Quoted message said:

day?

Yes.

Quoted message said:

2) Who makes those jerseys?

Nike.

Quoted message said:

3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any possibility of

the

Quoted message said:

They iron the logos on after the stage has been decided.

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

There are none.

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Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was just wondering if
anyone knew these logistics....

Dave

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There was an article about this last year, possibly in the NY Times. There
is a van that comes along with the tour, with a guy who slaps the winner's
logos on appropriate-colored jerseys for each stage. So I guess he has a
supply of plain yellow, green, white and polka-dot jerseys in different
sizes, plus a stack of sponsor logos.

Nope just one size fits all.

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Dunno whether the podium jerseys, which seem to zip up the back, are the

same as the ones worn the next day

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during the ride,

Nope, just for the podium "dog and pony" show.

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and I forget whether the article mentioned whether the
logos were iron-on, but I doubt that he sits there with a sewing machine.

Nope, stick on, just like the numbers on the rider's hips.

its funny how the conversations change when the internet audio feed dies,

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There was an article about this last year, possibly in the NY Times.

There

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is a van that comes along with the tour, with a guy who slaps the

winner's

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logos on appropriate-colored jerseys for each stage. So I guess he has a
supply of plain yellow, green, white and polka-dot jerseys in different
sizes, plus a stack of sponsor logos.

Nope just one size fits all.

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Dunno whether the podium jerseys, which seem to zip up the back, are the

same as the ones worn the next day

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during the ride,

Nope, just for the podium "dog and pony" show.

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and I forget whether the article mentioned whether the
logos were iron-on, but I doubt that he sits there with a sewing

machine.

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Nope, stick on, just like the numbers on the rider's hips.

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So I've always wondered this....

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

Well, I'd like to argue for a 1/2 point because I was referring to the non
existant jerseys implied in the question.

For example, the hypothetical USPS prologue yellow jersey that was never
used and does not exist.

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I kida figured it had to be something like that. Low tech, but does the
job. And some of the other posts mentioned the podium jersey zipping up

the

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back; I had completely forgotten abut that.

Dave

I do think there are more than one per day and that there are "extra"
jerseys. Back in the day (so to speak) anyone outside of what was considered
the "normal" size range for a "Euro-dog" had to put up with a jersey that
did not fit. These days, I have not seen a poorly fitting jersey in many
years and the ranges of riders these days is far more than ever before. That
is strong evidence to me that there are plenty of extra sizes. They always
have a full Tour's worth for the favorite riders and then they have the
extras. I remember one year Stephen Roche had to wear a massively over-sized
jersey that was tamed with safety pins. It neded up OK in photos if you did
not know what to look for. Back then, the jerseys typically went down a bit
further anyway and the bottom would often sit just above the peak of the
rider's buttocks. Look at most of today's riders and the jersey normally
ends just a few inches below the waist and most of the riders have similar
fitting jerseys. I see more variety in short lengths but that seems to
involve preference more so than jerseys do (which is surprising to me but I
am only observing here).

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So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the

rider's

Quoted message said:

team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for

each

Quoted message said:

day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow over an existng

one

Quoted message said:

on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also think I saw

one

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

year a stack of yellow's in the back of a truck where they took the one

off

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the top to give to Lance for that day.

They get a new set each day. If I'm not mistaken, each set contains a

long-

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and a short-sleeved jersey, as well as a TT suit.

They only get skinsuits on days they may need them. I do think they get a
long and short sleeve as you indicated though along with the podium jersey.
It is funny because the winner normally gives jerseys away to team mates,
politicians, etc and never seems to run out. The really prized jerseys are
those that are actually worn in the race folowed by podium and then jerseys
that were not worn. I would not be surprised at all to find out that the
winner can ask for a few extras for photo ops although I have heard that the
organizers don't want the public to have that impression so I don't know how
they decide which requests from the winer to honor.

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2) Who makes those jerseys? Are the teams responsible? Or do the tour
organizers do it?

The tour organizers have large stickers, with the team sponsors on them,
that can be pressed on the jerseys very quickly. They prepare them before
the award ceremony when it's clear who is going to wear the jerseys.

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3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any possibility of

the

Quoted message said:

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permutations of riders, number of days, teams etc so they don't run out

if

Quoted message said:

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some unexpected results happen (what, 4 types of jersey, times (I think)

21

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teams, times (on an average year) 21 stages adds up to a heck of a lot

of

Quoted message said:

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clothing that can go unused) This does not even go into worrying about

the

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right size for riders.

The teams do not carry around classification jerseys. They are in

possession

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of the tour organization until they are awarded.

Quoted message said:

4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

You can buy jerseys of all types (yellow, green, etc.), in different sizes
ofcourse. I would assume that the winner's jerseys come from that stack,

so

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it is clear that the surplus is sold. Last year, there was footage after
every stage of the winner signing a stack of jerseys and these are

ofcourse

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even more interesting to sell.

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Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was just wondering if
anyone knew these logistics....

Dave

Cyclingnews.com has a useful tour faq. I'm not sure if your questions are
answered there, so here you are. Corrections are welcome ofcourse.

Jonathan.

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So I've always wondered this....

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

Well, I'd like to argue for a 1/2 point because I was referring to the non
existant jerseys implied in the question.

For example, the hypothetical USPS prologue yellow jersey that was never
used and does not exist.

Why not? I bet Lance gets that one and will keep it to use as he pleases. I
doubt he actually "turned it away". He likely got it but did not use it. He
will give that one to someone he owes a favor to...

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> So I've always wondered this....
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> 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

Well, I'd like to argue for a 1/2 point because I was referring to the

non

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existant jerseys implied in the question.

For example, the hypothetical USPS prologue yellow jersey that was never
used and does not exist.

Why not? I bet Lance gets that one and will keep it to use as he pleases.

I

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doubt he actually "turned it away". He likely got it but did not use it.

He

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will give that one to someone he owes a favor to...

I'll be clearer. Not for the start of the prologue, but for the winner of
the prologue. The op assumed that they made a yellow jersey for every team
for every stage.

TM said:

I'll be clearer. Not for the start of the prologue, but for the winner of
the prologue. The op assumed that they made a yellow jersey for every team
for every stage.

What about winners of other stages? They should at least get a T-shirt or something.

Front: I won stage 9 of the 2004 Tour...
Back: ... and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.

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TM said:

I'll be clearer. Not for the start of the prologue, but for the winner

of

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the prologue. The op assumed that they made a yellow jersey for every

team

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for every stage.

What about winners of other stages? They should at least get a T-shirt or

something.

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Front: I won stage 9 of the 2004 Tour...
Back: ... and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.

(And about 10.000)

This is one incredible thread! Just to clear things up, riders DO NOT
use the podium jersey for anything other then the podium. However, I
like everyone would love to get my mits on one of those jerseys.

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So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the

rider's

Quoted message said:

team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for

each

Quoted message said:

day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow over an existng

one

Quoted message said:

on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also think I saw one
year a stack of yellow's in the back of a truck where they took the one

off

Quoted message said:

the top to give to Lance for that day.

They get a new set each day. If I'm not mistaken, each set contains a long-
and a short-sleeved jersey, as well as a TT suit.

Quoted message said:

2) Who makes those jerseys? Are the teams responsible? Or do the tour
organizers do it?

The tour organizers have large stickers, with the team sponsors on them,
that can be pressed on the jerseys very quickly. They prepare them before
the award ceremony when it's clear who is going to wear the jerseys.

Wow -- your first non-SPAM post in YEARS!

Thanks, Ken

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3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any possibility of the
permutations of riders, number of days, teams etc so they don't run out if
some unexpected results happen (what, 4 types of jersey, times (I think)

21

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teams, times (on an average year) 21 stages adds up to a heck of a lot of
clothing that can go unused) This does not even go into worrying about

the

Quoted message said:

right size for riders.

The teams do not carry around classification jerseys. They are in possession
of the tour organization until they are awarded.

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4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?

For Homeless people if Jonny vds. had his way.

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TM said:

I'll be clearer. Not for the start of the prologue, but for the

winner

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of

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the prologue. The op assumed that they made a yellow jersey for every

team

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for every stage.

What about winners of other stages? They should at least get a T-shirt

or

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something.

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Front: I won stage 9 of the 2004 Tour...
Back: ... and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.

(And about 10.000)

Divided between all the team members...

Dave said:

So I've always wondered this....

When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the rider's
team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....

There was an article posted here last year about the man who makes the
tour jerseys. Quite an efficient operation by all accounts. The link
was posted in the newsgroup and you can Google for it if you don't mind
people thinking that you are a stalker or something. This should be in
the FAQ, but we haven't updated that since April 2003 because there has
been more important stuff happening.