Who invented the finger?

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Les Earnest did:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/2100-1035_11-6168685.html?tag=nl.e019

I raced in the Norcal/Nevada district in the early-mid 80s. Les (and
IIRC his wife) was a frequent official at bike racing events. I had
no idea his day job was so impressive. Thank you Les for coming out
on weekends to listen to sweaty guys argue over who got 6th place in
the cat 3 criterium around an industrial park.

Les has been everwhere and everything. It's a good thing we have people like
Les around to shake everything up once in awhile.

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Les Earnest did:http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/2100-1035_11-6168685.html?tag=nl...

I raced in the Norcal/Nevada district in the early-mid 80s. Les (and
IIRC his wife) was a frequent official at bike racing events. I had
no idea his day job was so impressive. Thank you Les for coming out
on weekends to listen to sweaty guys argue over who got 6th place in
the cat 3 criterium around an industrial park.

That's hilarious!

In my late-90s university days, my circle of friends were pretty
aggressive users of .plan files, which culminated in the concept of
the public read-write .plan files. You'd set your plan to be
writeable, and people woud just post any old dumb thing in there,
typically ending up with a few specific categories of dumb things in
each plan file.

I just checked: I still have a world-writeable .plan, and it's 13 kB
long.

Thanks, Les!

Quoted message said:

Les Earnest did:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/2100-1035_11-6168685.html?tag=nl.e019

I raced in the Norcal/Nevada district in the early-mid 80s. Les (and
IIRC his wife) was a frequent official at bike racing events. I had
no idea his day job was so impressive. Thank you Les for coming out
on weekends to listen to sweaty guys argue over who got 6th place in
the cat 3 criterium around an industrial park.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thread/b560245cbc060571/b98c3b0c192f77bf?l#b98c3b0c192f77bf

Les didn't invent the internets, but he knew a lot of the players.

Bob Schwartz

Ryan Cousineau said:

Quoted message said:

Les Earnest did:http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/2100-1035_11-6168685.html?tag=nl...

Quoted message said:

I raced in the Norcal/Nevada district in the early-mid 80s. Les (and
IIRC his wife) was a frequent official at bike racing events. I had
no idea his day job was so impressive. Thank you Les for coming out
on weekends to listen to sweaty guys argue over who got 6th place in
the cat 3 criterium around an industrial park.

That's hilarious!

In my late-90s university days, my circle of friends were pretty
aggressive users of .plan files, which culminated in the concept of
the public read-write .plan files. You'd set your plan to be
writeable, and people woud just post any old dumb thing in there,
typically ending up with a few specific categories of dumb things in
each plan file.

I just checked: I still have a world-writeable .plan, and it's 13 kB
long.

Thanks, Les!

Weird. I've been using finger on unix/solaris/linux for 22 years and I
only learn about .plan files today.

I once edited a collegue's /etc/motd file so that it would spew some
hard disk errors, sleep for a while, then spew some more errors. After
a few minutes of this, it printed the standard message about running
fsck, except that the text included a personal insult.

None of us had password protected logins at that company so we could
do anything we wanted as long as it didn't get us fired. If I knew
then what I know now, I would have been dangerous.

Bret

Quoted message said:

Les Earnest did:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/2100-1035_11-6168685.html?tag=nl.e019

I raced in the Norcal/Nevada district in the early-mid 80s. Les (and
IIRC his wife) was a frequent official at bike racing events. I had
no idea his day job was so impressive.

Wow.

Thought I thought Kunich invented most of the various internet
protocols, when he wasn't racing cars and working for naval force
intelligence and designing high-tech composites for NASA.
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Quoted message said:

Les Earnest did:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/2100-1035_11-6168685.html?tag=nl.e019

I raced in the Norcal/Nevada district in the early-mid 80s. Les (and
IIRC his wife) was a frequent official at bike racing events. I had
no idea his day job was so impressive. Thank you Les for coming out
on weekends to listen to sweaty guys argue over who got 6th place in
the cat 3 criterium around an industrial park.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thread/b560245cbc060571/b98c3b0c192f77bf?l#b98c3b0c192f77bf

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Les didn't invent the internets, but he knew a lot of the players.

One of the reasons that thread is so great is the Dave Bailey response to AA:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/8c2f4571b760e792

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Thought I thought Kunich invented

Excuse me -- I have to apologize for that dig on Kunich -- it was
uncalled for in this instance.

Sorry.
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http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/2100-1035_11-6168685.html?tag=nl.e019

I raced in the Norcal/Nevada district in the early-mid 80s. Les (and
IIRC his wife) was a frequent official at bike racing events. I had
no idea his day job was so impressive. Thank you Les for coming out
on weekends to listen to sweaty guys argue over who got 6th place in
the cat 3 criterium around an industrial park.

Les is quite a guy. Would be nice to believe we could be civil enough here
that he might visit more often.

Interesting to read about how things started, and the "bulletin board wars"
of which he didn't elaborate. We ran a bicycle bulletin board from about
1980 until the day of the Loma Prieta earthquake, when it was knocked off
the shelf and stopped working. A Heathkit H8 with a pair of 400k disk
drives, running HDOS operating system. We had maybe 20 users a day at that
time, which seemed like quite a few. People mostly left messages about where
& when they'd be riding.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Thought I thought Kunich invented

Excuse me -- I have to apologize for that dig on Kunich -- it was
uncalled for in this instance.

Sorry.
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JT

And here I was, thinking, "Wow. JT just ripped Kunich. That's so unlike
JT." And then you APOLOGIZE. What I want to know is an instance when a JT
rip on Kunich IS (or would be, hypothetically speaking) justified.

That Bailey rip was a classic.

J "if not now... " F

Jim Flom said:

What I want to know is an instance when a JT
rip on Kunich IS (or would be, hypothetically speaking) justified.

When he starts with the nonsense (which happens often enough), but in
this thread I saw he was nice.
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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

When he starts with the nonsense (which happens often enough), but in
this thread I saw he was nice.

Please report this bug to the relevant authority.

Donald Munro said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

When he starts with the nonsense (which happens often enough), but in
this thread I saw he was nice.

Please report this bug to the relevant authority.

There is a degree of randomness to the ToneOfConversation
function. The center of the bell curve is pretty sour, but
occasionally you get something from the tail that almost
sounds reasonable.

Notice he got right back to global warming.

Bob Schwartz

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Howard Kveck said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Bob Schwartz

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[email hidden] wrote:

>Les Earnest did:
>http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/2100-1035_11-6168685.html?tag=nl.e019
>
>I raced in the Norcal/Nevada district in the early-mid 80s. Les (and
>IIRC his wife) was a frequent official at bike racing events. I had
>no idea his day job was so impressive. Thank you Les for coming out
>on weekends to listen to sweaty guys argue over who got 6th place in
>the cat 3 criterium around an industrial park.
>

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thread/b560245cbc060571/b98c3b0c192f77bf?l#b98c3b0c192f77bf

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Les didn't invent the internets, but he knew a lot of the players.

One of the reasons that thread is so great is the Dave Bailey response
to AA:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/8c2f4571b760e792

Thanks to all for the kind words. However if you read the first article
carefully you will see that the use of Finger as a blogging service was
accidental rather than something I planned. Another unplanned use of the
Plan files was to disseminate public keys for private communications. They
were used in both ways for about 20 years before the Web came into
existence in the mid-1990s

Incidentally, one university reportedly banned the use of Finger under
that name on the grounds that it was a dirty word. They supposedly chose a
more politically correct name but I now forget what it was.

May the Schwartz be with you.

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

When he starts with the nonsense (which happens often enough), but in
this thread I saw he was nice.

Please report this bug to the relevant authority.

If it's anything like the bugs in my Windows Vista OS, it's rife.

Howard Kveck said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Bob Schwartz

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Les Earnest did:
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/2100-1035_11-6168685.html?tag=nl.e019

I raced in the Norcal/Nevada district in the early-mid 80s. Les (and
IIRC his wife) was a frequent official at bike racing events. I had
no idea his day job was so impressive. Thank you Les for coming out
on weekends to listen to sweaty guys argue over who got 6th place in
the cat 3 criterium around an industrial park.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thread/b560245cbc060571/b98c3b0c192f77bf?l#b98c3b0c192f77bf

Quoted message said:

Les didn't invent the internets, but he knew a lot of the players.

One of the reasons that thread is so great is the Dave Bailey response to AA:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/8c2f4571b760e792

Thanks to all for the kind words. However if you read the first article
carefully you will see that the use of Finger as a blogging service was
accidental rather than something I planned. Another unplanned use of the
Plan files was to disseminate public keys for private communications.
They were used in both ways for about 20 years before the Web came into
existence in the mid-1990s

Incidentally, one university reportedly banned the use of Finger under
that name on the grounds that it was a dirty word. They supposedly chose
a more politically correct name but I now forget what it was.

-Les Earnest

Jim Flom said:

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

When he starts with the nonsense (which happens often enough), but in
this thread I saw he was nice.

Please report this bug to the relevant authority.

If it's anything like the bugs in my Windows Vista OS, it's rife.

Dumbass,

Obviously you can't tell the difference between a bug and a feature.

Bob Schwartz

Les Earnest said:

Incidentally, one university reportedly banned the use of Finger under
that name on the grounds that it was a dirty word. They supposedly chose
a more politically correct name but I now forget what it was.

dumbass,

for a project a friend of mine wrote a version of finger which he
called "middle finger". he even designed a middle finger icon.

Les Earnest said:

Quoted message said:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thre...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Les didn't invent the internets, but he knew a lot of the players.

Quoted message said:

One of the reasons that thread is so great is the Dave Bailey response to AA:

Quoted message said:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/8c2f4571b760e792

Thanks to all for the kind words. However if you read the first article
carefully you will see that the use of Finger as a blogging service was
accidental rather than something I planned. Another unplanned use of the
Plan files was to disseminate public keys for private communications.
They were used in both ways for about 20 years before the Web came into
existence in the mid-1990s

Incidentally, one university reportedly banned the use of Finger under
that name on the grounds that it was a dirty word. They supposedly chose
a more politically correct name but I now forget what it was.

-Les Earnest

Blogs are annoying; Les, you might be condemned to
some circle of TCP/IP hell for that, except that I
always liked the use of finger for remote monitoring
of Coke machines. (This was before webcams, you
young whippersnappers.) Sadly, finger [email hidden]
no longer reports Coke on hand and temperature, but
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~coke/history_long.txt
has the history.

Ben
Oh Lord won't you buy me a PDP-10
Oh Lord won't you buy me a PDP-10
My friends all have VAXes and I must make amends

Quoted message said:

for a project a friend of mine wrote a version of finger which he
called "middle finger". he even designed a middle finger icon.

Presumably the client was going to be called gspot.