Who crosses red lights?

Buck said:

Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of
cyclists do so. Also who here rides at night with no lights, rides on
the wrong side of the road?

These are all things I see a lot of and not in London either, who are
these people, come on hands up the guilty parties.

Not me, unless the lights ignore my bike; in which case I will proceed
carefully. The lights at the junction of Wilfred and Park Road and in
Ramsgate behave like this -- is there anything I can do about it?

Buck <[email hidden]> wrote:
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| Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of cyclists
| do so.

No, but I did once for a few days in London when I started commuting
there and it seemed like the done thing. I changed my mind after a bit
of reflection. At that time (~10 years ago) nobody went over if there
were cars going across, it was only when the space was empty; I believe
that's changed now.

| Also who here rides at night with no lights,

Nope. Unless the choice is to walk a long way in which case I cycle
under Moscow Rules.

| rides on the wrong side of the road?

Nope, though I have sidled up a one-way before now, hiding between
parked cars when something came the other way.

| These are all things I see a lot of and not in London either, who are
| these people, come on hands up the guilty parties.

I've seen some RLJing in Leeds recently.

--
Patrick Herring, http://www.anweald.co.uk/ph

Na, it's not worth it, it is best obey the law in every way if you want
to keep on riding. Do nothing unexpected, and do your best to be where
car drivers can see you.

Last week I was waiting at a timed light near home, I was at the head
of the line, and the light is a long one. After a couple of minutes
the car behind started to get impatient, and hooted me, eventualy
revving like mad, span the tyres and pulled out around me and crossing
the red light. The light changed about 30 secs later.

Buck said:

Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of cyclists
do so.

Yes, Me. Especialy going left. Sometime I've even jumped the kerb to
get around cars, actually riding on the pavement. Oh lordy me I'm going
to hell.

Quoted message said:

Also who here rides at night with no lights,

No, 21w metal halide at the front, three leds at the back, bright
yellow jacket.

Quoted message said:

rides on the wrong
side of the road?

Only in the US, but they drive on the wrong side anyway. 🙂

Quoted message said:

These are all things I see a lot of and not in London either, who are
these people, come on hands up the guilty parties.

--

Buck

I would rather be out on my Catrike

http://www.catrike.co.uk

Buck said:

Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of cyclists
do so. Also who here rides at night with no lights, rides on the wrong
side of the road?

These are all things I see a lot of and not in London either, who are
these people, come on hands up the guilty parties.

No, I try not to ride my bike, drive my car, or be a pedestrian in such
a selfish manner.

Simon Bennett said:

Buck said:

Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of
cyclists do so. Also who here rides at night with no lights, rides on
the wrong side of the road?

These are all things I see a lot of and not in London either, who are
these people, come on hands up the guilty parties.

Me. I do it all the time.

No, just kidding. I NEVER ride without lights, ride through red
lights, wrong side of the road etc etc.

Quoted message said:

Not me, unless the lights ignore my bike; in which case I will proceed
carefully. The lights at the junction of Wilfred and Park Road and in
Ramsgate behave like this -- is there anything I can do about it?

Contact the local authority (Kent CC I think rather than Thanet).
Complain on the phone. Be polite but firm.

Worked for me in West Sussex.

Tim

Marz said:

Buck said:

Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of cyclists
do so.

Yes, Me. Especialy going left. Sometime I've even jumped the kerb to
get around cars, actually riding on the pavement.

Why ?

You wouldn't be trolling again at all would you?
Maybe a teensie bit?

Buck said:

Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of
cyclists do so. Also who here rides at night with no lights, rides on
the wrong side of the road?

These are all things I see a lot of and not in London either, who are
these people, come on hands up the guilty parties.

My dad rides with no lights at night, despite admonishments from me. He's
pretty laid back about rules of the road on local journeys, too.

The way it looks to me, most of the people who do it are the kind of people
who view not having to follow the rules as a kind of compensation for losing
the status of having a car.
--
Ambrose

On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:28:56 GMT someone who may be Buck
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of cyclists
do so. Also who here rides at night with no lights, rides on the wrong
side of the road?

Nice try troll.

--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

Buck said:

Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of cyclists
do so. Also who here rides at night with no lights, rides on the wrong
side of the road?

These are all things I see a lot of and not in London either, who are
these people, come on hands up the guilty parties.

Coming up to some roadwork traffic lights today, already on red
and visible from some way off. The road narrows to a single lane
between concrete barriers while a bridge is rebuilt (Oakington,
for the cambridge people here).

The car in front of me carried straight on through.

i artikel [email hidden], skrev Buck på
[email hidden] den 06-04-06 15.28:

Quoted message said:

Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of cyclists
do so.

If it's empty and there's good visibility, then I do it (I live in Sweden).
The way I do it, it's often that nobody will ever know. Does a tree falling
in a forest make a sound if nobody hears it?

It's been said someone might pop out of nowhere. But that doesn't happen if
the visibility is good and you look carefully before going.

Quoted message said:

Also who here rides at night with no lights,

No.

Quoted message said:

rides on the wrong side of the road?

Not really. Sometimes half a block to get to an adress. Also depends on how
empty the place is.

--
Erik Sandblom
my site is EriksRailNews.com
for those who don't believe, no explanation is possible
for those who do, no explanation is necessary

i artikel [email hidden], skrev
MSeries på [email hidden] den 06-04-06 16.27:

Quoted message said:

Marz said:

Buck said:

Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of cyclists
do so.

Yes, Me. Especialy going left. Sometime I've even jumped the kerb to
get around cars, actually riding on the pavement.

Why ?

Turning left in Britain can often be done without entering the crossing very
much, which means it's less dangerous. That's probably why.

A right turn at a red light (left in Britain) is permitted in some places.
Nova Scotia or Quebec, can't remember which.

--
Erik Sandblom
my site is EriksRailNews.com
for those who don't believe, no explanation is possible
for those who do, no explanation is necessary

Erik Sandblom said:

A right turn at a red light (left in Britain) is permitted in some places.
Nova Scotia or Quebec, can't remember which.

I think the name of the place is the United States of America.

MSeries said:

Marz said:

Buck said:

Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of cyclists
do so.

Yes, Me. Especialy going left. Sometime I've even jumped the kerb to
get around cars, actually riding on the pavement.

Why ?

Because I can! And if I wanted to wait in traffic I could have taken
the car.

I don't jump every light, I jump the lights where I can see I'll not
get in anyone's way. Some junctions would be suicide to attempt to
cross on red and I don't. Some sections of pavement are too busy with
peds to ride so I don't. It's all about assessment and my
responibility, if I think my actions may cause someone else injury then
I won't take that course of action. If my actions 'look' bad to some
one else, I could care less.

laters,

Marz

"Buck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of cyclists
do so. Also who here rides at night with no lights, rides on the wrong
side of the road?

These are all things I see a lot of and not in London either, who are
these people, come on hands up the guilty parties.

Some ped lights that stay red long after everyone has crossed, so going
through these is a pretty "victimless" crime.

Buck said:

Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of cyclists
do so. Also who here rides at night with no lights, rides on the wrong
side of the road?

Kevin (the spotty one, not the one with the mohican) from down the road
once rode at night with no lights, but his dad gave him a good whipping
and he could never get back on his recumbent again without remembering
the pain. Now he makes a living painting football goalposts in Saudia
Arabia, but I'll tell him you want to talk to him about his lawbreaking.
And Jeremy Snodwrinkle was arrested for riding on the wrong side of
the road and taken away in the back of a Black Maria, we never saw
anything of him again except for that one rusting trouser clip dangling
from the telegraph wires over Farmer Maggot's bottom field.

Marz said:

MSeries said:

Marz said:

Buck wrote:
> Anyone here think it's ok to do this? Seems a heck of a lot of cyclists
> do so.

Yes, Me. Especialy going left. Sometime I've even jumped the kerb to
get around cars, actually riding on the pavement.

Why ?

Because I can! And if I wanted to wait in traffic I could have taken
the car.

I don't jump every light, I jump the lights where I can see I'll not
get in anyone's way. Some junctions would be suicide to attempt to
cross on red and I don't. Some sections of pavement are too busy with
peds to ride so I don't. It's all about assessment and my
responibility, if I think my actions may cause someone else injury then
I won't take that course of action. If my actions 'look' bad to some
one else, I could care less.

laters,

Marz

Would you cross on red whilst driving a motor vehicle under the same
circumstances ?

"MSeries" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Would you cross on red whilst driving a motor vehicle under the same
circumstances ?

It would be tricky in a motor vehicle as you would need to pull right
forward to see if it's clear and block any peds who need to cross.