General fitness, health and nutrition · Public discussion

Which wine for beef stew

Started by Kent · · Last activity · 71 posts · 640 views

Thread navigation

Jump through the discussion

Go to the original post, the replies on this page, or the latest preserved contribution.

Thread details

What we know about this thread

Original section
General fitness, health and nutrition
Published
27 October 2007
Last activity
1 November 2007
Original author
Kent
Posts
71
Discussion status
Public discussion
Total views
640
Views / 30 days
0

The navigation and discussion metadata provide context. Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Showing posts 1–20 of 71
Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Text size
  1. Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making boeuf
    bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional recipes always
    say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the table with the dish".
    These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or California pinot noir is at
    least $35. That seems like quite a lot. When you braise with wine, the fruit
    stays, but much of the subtleties that make it cost $35+ are lost.

    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have any of
    you tried that?
    TIA.

    Kent

  2. "Kent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew?

    I really don't like wine in food.

  3. Kent said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making
    boeuf bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional
    recipes always say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the
    table with the dish". These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or
    California pinot noir is at least $35. That seems like quite a lot.
    When you braise with wine, the fruit stays, but much of the
    subtleties that make it cost $35+ are lost.
    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have
    any of you tried that?
    TIA.

    Kent

    I'd use a cab, but that's me. I like a dry wine.

    kili

  4. "Kent" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making boeuf
    bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional recipes always
    say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the table with the dish".
    These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or California pinot noir is at
    least $35. That seems like quite a lot. When you braise with wine, the fruit
    stays, but much of the subtleties that make it cost $35+ are lost.

    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have any of
    you tried that?
    TIA.


    Use a Beaujolais - style wine.
    Or a Merlot. Fruity taste, and no too many subtleties.

    Cheers,

    Michael Kuettner

    PS : A Mueller-Thurgau would work, too.

  5. Kent said:


    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making boeuf
    bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional recipes always
    say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the table with the dish".
    These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or California pinot noir is at
    least $35. That seems like quite a lot. When you braise with wine, the fruit
    stays, but much of the subtleties that make it cost $35+ are lost.

    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have any of
    you tried that?
    TIA.

    I agree. That $35 has a lot of qualities that most people would not even
    recognize. It is a dreadful waste of good wine. Use any decent dry red.By
    the time it is infused with garlic, salt pepper, thyme, onions and tomato
    paste I don't think any but the most experienced oenophile to be able to
    identify the wine, though really cheap plonk might leave a nasty taste.

  6. Kent said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making boeuf
    bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional recipes always
    say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the table with the dish".
    These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or California pinot noir is at
    least $35. That seems like quite a lot. When you braise with wine, the fruit
    stays, but much of the subtleties that make it cost $35+ are lost.

    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have any of
    you tried that?
    TIA.

    Kent

    Sure i make a stroganoff with white wine, James Beard recipe iirc, but
    as often as not i will use a gallo "burgundy" i am quite fond of gallo
    wines for cooking, the cheine blanc i use routinly.
    --
    JL

  7. Oh pshaw, on Sat 27 Oct 2007 12:06:12p, Kent meant to say...

    Quoted message said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making
    boeuf bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional
    recipes always say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the table
    with the dish". These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or
    California pinot noir is at least $35. That seems like quite a lot. When
    you braise with wine, the fruit stays, but much of the subtleties that
    make it cost $35+ are lost.

    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have any
    of you tried that?
    TIA.

    Kent

    You can still use a burgundy. Just don't buy an expensive one with all the
    "subtleties". In a stew it won't matter.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright
    __________________________________________________

    I have a rock garden, but three of them died last week.

  8. Kent said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making boeuf
    bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional recipes always
    say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the table with the dish".
    These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or California pinot noir is at
    least $35. That seems like quite a lot. When you braise with wine, the fruit
    stays, but much of the subtleties that make it cost $35+ are lost.

    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have any of
    you tried that?
    TIA.


    I made beef stew with red wine a couple weeks ago and I used Cline
    Zinfandel. 10 bucks a bottle. I used two cups in the stew and drank
    the rest.

  9. kilikini said:
    Kent said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making
    boeuf bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional
    recipes always say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the
    table with the dish". These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or
    California pinot noir is at least $35. That seems like quite a lot.
    When you braise with wine, the fruit stays, but much of the
    subtleties that make it cost $35+ are lost.
    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have
    any of you tried that?
    TIA.

    Kent



    Sorry to piggyback, kili, but for some reason (gmail, maybe?) I can't see
    the original post.

    The "rule" about cooking only with wine you'd drink merely means (at least
    to me) not to buy that [censored] they call cooking wine in the grocery store.
    It's the dregs of the barrel with a lot of salt added. I see no reason to
    cook with a $35 bottle of wine to make what is essentially beef stew.
    Doesn't have to be French wine.

    Jill

  10. Kent said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making boeuf
    bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional recipes always
    say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the table with the dish".
    These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or California pinot noir is at
    least $35. That seems like quite a lot. When you braise with wine, the fruit
    stays, but much of the subtleties that make it cost $35+ are lost.


    Good heavens! Are you kidding? I'd only put the expensive stuff in
    beef burgundy if it was leftover from dinner *last night*. Use Gallo
    Hearty Burgundy, it's very drinkable and does well as a recipe
    ingredient. Save the expensive wine for drinking WITH your meal
    tonight.

    Quoted message said:

    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have any of
    you tried that?


    No. I don't use white wine with red meat. Even the driest white is
    too sweet for red meat and needs lemon juice to cut it. That's why I
    use white with fish, shellfish or chicken only.

    If you want to try something really different, try adding a half cup
    of sweet sherry to your pot of beef stew. You can't taste it as
    sherry in the finished product, but it leaves a subtle undertone that
    is absolutely fascinating.

    --
    See return address to reply by email
    remove the smiley face first

  11. Kent said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making boeuf
    bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. [snip]

    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have any of
    you tried that?

    I've had good results with burgundies, pinot noirs and zinfandels.
    Less good with bordeauxs and cabernets. Tried a white wine once and
    thought it a failed experiment. I take "cook with what you drink" as
    designating a family or type rather than a bottle. Meaning cook with
    an inexpensive bordeaux if you're drinking a good one but don't cook
    with a zin and then drink a Bordeaux. As to zins, they vary so widely
    that I would choose the cooking bottle and the drinking bottle from
    the same vineyard. -aem

  12. Kent said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making boeuf
    bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional recipes always
    say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the table with the dish".
    These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or California pinot noir is at
    least $35. That seems like quite a lot. When you braise with wine, the fruit
    stays, but much of the subtleties that make it cost $35+ are lost.

    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have any of
    you tried that?
    TIA.

    Kent

    I use jug burgundy that I keep specifically for cooking. White wine
    doesn't have the body/flavor to stand up to cooking beef, IMO.
    I use white when sauteeing mushrooms and in sauce for pasta that uses
    Italian sausage, garlic, onions and peppers.

    gloria p

  13. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:
    kilikini said:
    Kent said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making
    boeuf bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional
    recipes always say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the
    table with the dish". These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or
    California pinot noir is at least $35. That seems like quite a lot.
    When you braise with wine, the fruit stays, but much of the
    subtleties that make it cost $35+ are lost.
    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have
    any of you tried that?
    TIA.

    Kent



    Sorry to piggyback, kili, but for some reason (gmail, maybe?) I can't see
    the original post.

    The "rule" about cooking only with wine you'd drink merely means (at least
    to me) not to buy that [censored] they call cooking wine in the grocery store.
    It's the dregs of the barrel with a lot of salt added. I see no reason to
    cook with a $35 bottle of wine to make what is essentially beef stew.
    Doesn't have to be French wine.

    Jill

    Agreed, you can get a decent wine for < $20 these days. It doesn't
    necessarily have to be French either as many other regions produce very
    passable grapes. California is good, so too are the Australian wines.

    I can get a two or three year old California Pinot Noir here for about
    $13.

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Kent said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making boeuf
    bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional recipes always
    say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the table with the dish".
    These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or California pinot noir is at
    least $35. That seems like quite a lot. When you braise with wine, the fruit
    stays, but much of the subtleties that make it cost $35+ are lost.

    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have any of
    you tried that?
    TIA.


    I made beef stew with red wine a couple weeks ago and I used Cline
    Zinfandel. 10 bucks a bottle. I used two cups in the stew and drank
    the rest.

    Here here! That's the nice part about using wine you'd drink instead of
    that disgusting [censored] sold in supermarkets.

  15. Kent said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making boeuf
    bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional recipes always
    say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the table with the dish".
    These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or California pinot noir is at
    least $35. That seems like quite a lot. When you braise with wine, the fruit
    stays, but much of the subtleties that make it cost $35+ are lost.

    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have any of
    you tried that?
    TIA.

    Kent

    Use a kind-of cheap ($5) Burgundy, like maybe Inglenook or Gallo.

    Bob

  16. "Kent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew? Tonight we're making
    boeuf bourguignon, one of our braised beef dishes. The traditional recipes
    always say: "use the burgundy you're going to drink at the table with the
    dish". These days a good bottle of French Burgundy or California pinot
    noir is at least $35. That seems like quite a lot. When you braise with
    wine, the fruit stays, but much of the subtleties that make it cost $35+
    are lost.

    What wines do you use? I've never braised beef with white wine. Have any
    of you tried that?
    TIA.

    Kent


    I usually use a cheap red with some guts, such as a Concha Y Toro or Walnut
    Crest Shiraz.

  17. "cybercat" schrieb

    Quoted message said:


    "Kent" wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Which red wine do you use for making beef stew?

    I really don't like wine in food.


    And the rest of the world needed to know that because of what ?
    If you don't like wine in food, just keep your trap shut.

    Rather easy, right ?

    Michael Kuettner

  18. jmcquown said:

    The "rule" about cooking only with wine you'd drink merely means (at least
    to me) not to buy that [censored] they call cooking wine in the grocery store.
    It's the dregs of the barrel with a lot of salt added. I see no reason to
    cook with a $35 bottle of wine to make what is essentially beef stew.
    Doesn't have to be French wine.

    Jill

    I agree - I never buy "cooking" wine. Generally, there's quite a bit
    of wine around my house, because I have a family member who owns a
    sports bar and grill, and a friend that works around the wine
    industry. There is usually leftover wine around (I know, I know -
    leftover wine?).

    I generally freeze the leftover wine into cubes, and then bag and
    freeze, the cubes in ziploc bags for use in my cooking and recipes.

    For a Beef stew recipe, I'd use a good red wine, Like Gamay Beaujolais
    (usually more expensive), a Merlot. They tend to have a nice fruity.
    But I also like Pinot Noir, and Cabernet Sauvignon. . .Red wine for
    sure.

    Myrl Jeffcoat

  19. One time on Usenet said:
    jmcquown said:

    The "rule" about cooking only with wine you'd drink merely means (at least
    to me) not to buy that [censored] they call cooking wine in the grocery store.
    It's the dregs of the barrel with a lot of salt added. I see no reason to
    cook with a $35 bottle of wine to make what is essentially beef stew.
    Doesn't have to be French wine.

    I used to use "cooking" wine, because we don't drink it and I don't
    know how to store "regular" wine. I haven't cooked with it for quite a
    while.

    Quoted message said:

    I agree - I never buy "cooking" wine. Generally, there's quite a bit
    of wine around my house, because I have a family member who owns a
    sports bar and grill, and a friend that works around the wine
    industry. There is usually leftover wine around (I know, I know -
    leftover wine?).

    Well, it's not as if they were drinking from the bottle. ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    I generally freeze the leftover wine into cubes, and then bag and
    freeze, the cubes in ziploc bags for use in my cooking and recipes.

    What a neat idea!

    Quoted message said:

    For a Beef stew recipe, I'd use a good red wine, Like Gamay Beaujolais
    (usually more expensive), a Merlot. They tend to have a nice fruity.
    But I also like Pinot Noir, and Cabernet Sauvignon. . .Red wine for
    sure.

    Myrl Jeffcoat

    --
    Jani in WA

  20. (Little Malice) said:


    Quoted message said:

    I generally freeze the leftover wine into cubes, and then bag and
    freeze, the cubes in ziploc bags for use in my cooking and recipes.

    What a neat idea!

    I should also tell you that if you use ziploc bags to freeze your wine
    cubes, you should either double bag them, or place in a glass
    container, to keep the wine from seeping through.

    I also sometimes, put left over wine in pint sized canning jars and
    freeze. This keeps the leaking through problem from happening.

    I've also used Tupperware containers, but the red wine stains them.
    It's fine with white wine however.

Active in the last 60 minutes

Active in this thread

0 users · 0 guests ·0 bots ·0 total

No signed-in users are active right now.

No known search crawlers active right now.