Which machine should I get?

I really know nothing about exercise equipment and how it
deals with specific body areas. I'm a firm believer that the
only piece of equipment you should buy is the one you will
use for it's intended purpose (exercise as opposed to
decoration of clothing supporter <G>😉. The bikes and
treadmills definitely work your legs, but the purpose of the
aerobic exercise you get from them is overall exercise - not
spot reductions. If you're heart rate is up, you will burn
calories, which will aid in burning fat. If you want spot
reductions for specific areas then you probably will be
better off saving your money and working on floor exercise
routines (just my opinion anyway).

As far as the Tony Robins machinery ... I tend to stay away
from anything and everything that is endorsed or sold by a
specific person with one goal in mind ... money. I also
look at the marketing strategies. If I remember this
machine correctly, it spouts quick results, yada yada yada
- nothing comes quick or easy - I stop listening and
believing. I have no idea as to how stressful or
weightbearing this machine is. I have tried a similar type
machine in a gym long ago, found I couldn't do it more than
a few minutes before my knees would start throbbing. Do
some research on the internet to see what actual users and
gym enthusiasts have to say about something like this - as
opposed to other well known
(vs. fad) pieces of machinery.

Again, just my opinion.

Joyce

SPOONS said:

Hi all,

I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so many
out there I don't know which one to choose from. I'm
debating between an Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony
Robins Gazelle cross Trainer.

I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs & butt.
Which machine would do all these things?

Thanks & Take care, SPOONS 178/156/140 WW's Goal 158,
Lifetime Jan 2004 Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs My photo
food log fotolog.netgigglesOpen ↗

no clue but good luck, Lee
SPOONS <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi all,

I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so many
out there I

don't

Quoted message said:

know which one to choose from. I'm debating between an
Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony Robins Gazelle cross
Trainer.

I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs & butt.
Which machine

would

Quoted message said:

do all these things?

Thanks & Take care, SPOONS 178/156/140 WW's Goal 158,
Lifetime Jan 2004 Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs My photo
food log fotolog.netgigglesOpen ↗

SPOONS said:

Hi all,

I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so many
out there I don't know which one to choose from. I'm
debating between an Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony
Robins Gazelle cross Trainer.

I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs & butt.
Which machine would do all these things?

all and none. Exercise doesn't influence where you lose
weight. It will help you lose weight and will certainly make
you fitter, but it won't target specific areas.

So...which one do you like? Thats the one you should
get...maybe

Does that help - I bet it doesn't 🙂

Ray

--
rmnsuk
273/199/182

My best friend has a Gazelle and she swears by it. I have
been on it a couple of times, but not sure how much I would
use it if I had it in my home.

Is space and issue, if it is, take that into consideration.
Have you had a chance to try them all out, it would be best
to try them each and find what you like best, you are more
likely to use the machine then.

Debbie

"SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Hi all,

I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so many
out there I

don't

Quoted message said:

know which one to choose from. I'm debating between an
Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony Robins Gazelle cross
Trainer.

I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs & butt.
Which machine

would

Quoted message said:

do all these things?

Thanks & Take care, SPOONS 178/156/140 WW's Goal 158,
Lifetime Jan 2004 Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs My photo
food log fotolog.netgigglesOpen ↗

Hi all,

Thanks for such great input. After doing some research I now
know that I can NOT use one machine to target certain body
parts. Plus Joyce gave some great info.

The other day I happen to bump into a neighbor & I was
speaking to her about these machines and then she tells me
that she has a Gazelle, so I went over there and tried it
for 3 days at 25 minutes each. I worked up a good sweat and
my thighs are really sore but that's it. Now I know I don't
like it. The gliding motion just doesn't feel right.

I also went to some department stores and tried some
elliptical machines and there's just so many styles &
features. But at least the circular motion feels normal,
it's like riding a bike, walking even running, plus you can
increase resistance so as your body gets stronger the
machine grows with you. Where as the Gazelle there isn't any
resistance so when you get to a certain point you've plateau
and the machine isn't growing with you. As for a treadmill
well I haven't tried one yet but I was told that it's high
maintenance & hard on joints.

I want to go to an actual fitness store and try out
different machines to see which one suits me best. I don't
want a machine that will end up being a piece of furniture.
Thanks again for all your great opinions.

Take care, SPOONS .........................................-
.....................

"SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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Quoted message said:

Hi all,

I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so many
out there I

don't

Quoted message said:

know which one to choose from. I'm debating between an
Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony Robins Gazelle cross
Trainer.

I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs & butt.
Which machine

would

Quoted message said:

do all these things?

Thanks & Take care, SPOONS 178/156/140 WW's Goal 158,
Lifetime Jan 2004 Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs My photo
food log fotolog.netgigglesOpen ↗

I'd go for the plain old treadmill if I were you, or simply
use your feet and walk outside. Cross-trainers come and go,
but walking is always the tried and true.

I agree with one of the other posts, in that you can't take
weight just off your belly or off your butt or whatever. It
comes off where it wants to leave from, not a terrible lot
you can do about where. I know some will disagree, but this
is my experience. Plus, just because you buy the newest
gaget, does NOT mean you'll use it - trust me, I know! These
things make great clothes hangers...

KD

"ray miller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

SPOONS said:

Hi all,

I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so
many out there I

don't

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

know which one to choose from. I'm debating between an
Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony Robins Gazelle cross
Trainer.

I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs & butt.
Which machine

would

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

do all these things?

all and none. Exercise doesn't influence where you lose
weight. It will help you lose weight and will certainly
make you fitter, but it won't target specific areas.

So...which one do you like? Thats the one you should
get...maybe

Does that help - I bet it doesn't 🙂

Ray

--
rmnsuk
273/199/182

The Gazelle virtually has no stress on the knee joints, as
you are not lifting your feet and causing impact to the
knee. You are swinging your legs back and forth along with
your arms. If you have hip problems, that might be an issue,
but the knees and ankles would not be an issue at all.

Debbie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I really know nothing about exercise equipment and how it
deals with

specific body

Quoted message said:

areas. I'm a firm believer that the only piece of
equipment you should

buy is the

Quoted message said:

one you will use for it's intended purpose (exercise as
opposed to

decoration of

Quoted message said:

clothing supporter <G>😉. The bikes and treadmills
definitely work your

legs, but

Quoted message said:

the purpose of the aerobic exercise you get from them
is overall

exercise - not

Quoted message said:

spot reductions. If you're heart rate is up, you will burn
calories,

which will

Quoted message said:

aid in burning fat. If you want spot reductions for
specific areas then

you

Quoted message said:

probably will be better off saving your money and working
on floor

exercise

Quoted message said:

routines (just my opinion anyway).

As far as the Tony Robins machinery ... I tend to stay
away from anything

and

Quoted message said:

everything that is endorsed or sold by a specific person
with one goal in

mind ...

Quoted message said:

money. I also look at the marketing strategies. If I
remember this

machine

Quoted message said:

correctly, it spouts quick results, yada yada yada -
nothing comes quick

or easy -

Quoted message said:

I stop listening and believing. I have no idea as to how
stressful or weightbearing this machine is. I have tried a
similar type machine in a

gym long

Quoted message said:

ago, found I couldn't do it more than a few minutes before
my knees would

start

Quoted message said:

throbbing. Do some research on the internet to see what
actual users and

gym

Quoted message said:

enthusiasts have to say about something like this - as
opposed to other

well known

Quoted message said:

(vs. fad) pieces of machinery.

Again, just my opinion.

Joyce

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:40:46 GMT, "SPOONS"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hi all,

I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so
many out there I

don't

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

know which one to choose from. I'm debating between an
Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony Robins Gazelle cross
Trainer.

I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs & butt.
Which machine

would

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

do all these things?

Thanks & Take care, SPOONS 178/156/140 WW's Goal 158,
Lifetime Jan 2004 Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs My
photo food log fotolog.netgigglesOpen ↗

Hi Spoons, Have you thought about exercise tapes? I've got
the Tai Bo series with Billy Blanks and it seems to be a
really good workout without any machines, four video tapes
in all - beginner, intermediate, advanced & 10 minute
workout. Sometimes I use them if I don't feel like going to
the gym. Julie

"SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Hi all,

Thanks for such great input. After doing some research I
now know that I can NOT use one machine to target certain
body parts. Plus Joyce gave

some

Quoted message said:

great info.

The other day I happen to bump into a neighbor & I was
speaking to her

about

Quoted message said:

these machines and then she tells me that she has a
Gazelle, so I went

over

Quoted message said:

there and tried it for 3 days at 25 minutes each. I worked
up a good

sweat

Quoted message said:

and my thighs are really sore but that's it. Now I know I
don't like it. The gliding motion just doesn't feel right.

I also went to some department stores and tried some
elliptical machines

and

Quoted message said:

there's just so many styles & features. But at least the
circular motion feels normal, it's like riding a bike,
walking even running, plus you can increase resistance so
as your body gets stronger the machine grows with you.
Where as the Gazelle there isn't any resistance so when
you get to

a

Quoted message said:

certain point you've plateau and the machine isn't
growing with you. As for a treadmill well I haven't tried
one yet but I was told that it's high maintenance & hard
on joints.

I want to go to an actual fitness store and try out
different machines to see which one suits me best. I don't
want a machine that will end up

being

Quoted message said:

a piece of furniture. Thanks again for all your great
opinions.

Take care, SPOONS .......................................-
.......................

"SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message -"]news:[email hidden]-
le.rogers.com...

Quoted message said:

Hi all,

I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so
many out there I

don't

Quoted message said:

know which one to choose from. I'm debating between an
Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony Robins Gazelle cross
Trainer.

I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs & butt.
Which machine

would

Quoted message said:

do all these things?

Thanks & Take care, SPOONS 178/156/140 WW's Goal 158,
Lifetime Jan 2004 Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs My
photo food log fotolog.netgigglesOpen ↗

I did read that it was considered low impact, but I know it
killed my knees - don't know why (other than my knees are
nasty anyway). Maybe it was from the constant swinging
action? My son said the same thing when he was on it ...
cold also just have been the machine that our health club
had. Doesn't much matter I guess, it wasn't for me - I know
I wouldn't have stayed with it more than a handful of times.

Joyce

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:02:33 -0800, "Deb in Northern
California"

Quoted message said:

The Gazelle virtually has no stress on the knee joints,
as you are not lifting your feet and causing impact to
the knee. You are swinging your legs back and forth
along with your arms. If you have hip problems, that
might be an issue, but the knees and ankles would not be
an issue at all.

Debbie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I really know nothing about exercise equipment and how it
deals with

specific body

Quoted message said:

areas. I'm a firm believer that the only piece of
equipment you should

buy is the

Quoted message said:

one you will use for it's intended purpose (exercise as
opposed to

decoration of

Quoted message said:

clothing supporter <G>😉. The bikes and treadmills
definitely work your

legs, but

Quoted message said:

the purpose of the aerobic exercise you get from them is
overall

exercise - not

Quoted message said:

spot reductions. If you're heart rate is up, you will
burn calories,

which will

Quoted message said:

aid in burning fat. If you want spot reductions for
specific areas then

you

Quoted message said:

probably will be better off saving your money and working
on floor

exercise

Quoted message said:

routines (just my opinion anyway).

As far as the Tony Robins machinery ... I tend to stay
away from anything

and

Quoted message said:

everything that is endorsed or sold by a specific person
with one goal in

mind ...

Quoted message said:

money. I also look at the marketing strategies. If I
remember this

machine

Quoted message said:

correctly, it spouts quick results, yada yada yada -
nothing comes quick

or easy -

Quoted message said:

I stop listening and believing. I have no idea as to how
stressful or weightbearing this machine is. I have tried
a similar type machine in a

gym long

Quoted message said:

ago, found I couldn't do it more than a few minutes
before my knees would

start

Quoted message said:

throbbing. Do some research on the internet to see what
actual users and

gym

Quoted message said:

enthusiasts have to say about something like this - as
opposed to other

well known

Quoted message said:

(vs. fad) pieces of machinery.

Again, just my opinion.

Joyce

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:40:46 GMT, "SPOONS"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hi all,

I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so
many out there I

don't

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

know which one to choose from. I'm debating between an
Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony Robins Gazelle cross
Trainer.

I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs & butt.
Which machine

would

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

do all these things?

Thanks & Take care, SPOONS 178/156/140 WW's Goal 158,
Lifetime Jan 2004 Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs My
photo food log fotolog.netgigglesOpen ↗

I don't know who gave you your information on the treadmill,
but I have not ever found it to be high maintenance (and I
have had one for many, many years) nor hard on joints. It's
for walking ... we walk every day. The machine just keeps
you at a constant pace is all. Now possibly if you are going
to jog on it, then it could be tougher on the joints, as
jogging is more weight bearing ... but not just walking. And
many of the newer models have springs, which make the
surface much easier even for running. My son uses it to run,
for leg strengthening (again, for the pitcher in him). He
used one with the springs at school, said the difference is
incredible - much easier on his knees than running on the
pavement. This might be something for you to keep in mind
when you are looking. The extra cost is well worth the
comfort. As for maintenance ... on the old treadmill I only
had to give a squirt of lubricant spray under the belt
occassionally (very occassionally). I'm not sure what is
high maintenance about that.

My daughter has an eliptical machine - swears by it. I don't
care for it at all - again, for me it was tough on my nasty
knees. I found it much tougher than using a recumbant bike.
I think it had something to do with the circular motion and
standing ... more weight coming down on my knees on the
downward swing, more resistance on the upward. Maybe now
that I weigh less it would be easier, but at my heaviest, I
had a very difficult time with it. Hubs recumbant bike is
nice - not sure if you even threw that into your mix of
ideas or not. It's just like riding a bike, no achy knees
for me - the trick (for me) was finding the right spot to
get the seat adjusted ... too far or too close and it put
more pressure on my knees. Ya know, I'm starting to dislike
my knees. <G>

Try them all out! I found the sports stores to be wonderful
about starting machines up and letting us test each of them
... they actually encouraged it. And no one hovered over us
at all - let us use them as long as we wanted.

Have you made any decision yet, or are you still looking
around and testing?

Jyce

SPOONS said:

Hi all,

Thanks for such great input. After doing some research I
now know that I can NOT use one machine to target certain
body parts. Plus Joyce gave some great info.

The other day I happen to bump into a neighbor & I was
speaking to her about these machines and then she tells me
that she has a Gazelle, so I went over there and tried it
for 3 days at 25 minutes each. I worked up a good sweat and
my thighs are really sore but that's it. Now I know I don't
like it. The gliding motion just doesn't feel right.

I also went to some department stores and tried some
elliptical machines and there's just so many styles &
features. But at least the circular motion feels normal,
it's like riding a bike, walking even running, plus you can
increase resistance so as your body gets stronger the
machine grows with you. Where as the Gazelle there isn't
any resistance so when you get to a certain point you've
plateau and the machine isn't growing with you. As for a
treadmill well I haven't tried one yet but I was told that
it's high maintenance & hard on joints.

I want to go to an actual fitness store and try out
different machines to see which one suits me best. I don't
want a machine that will end up being a piece of furniture.
Thanks again for all your great opinions.

Take care, SPOONS ........................................-
......................

"SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message -"]news:[email hidden]-
le.rogers.com...

Quoted message said:

Hi all,

I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so
many out there I

don't

Quoted message said:

know which one to choose from. I'm debating between an
Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony Robins Gazelle cross
Trainer.

I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs & butt.
Which machine

would

Quoted message said:

do all these things?

Thanks & Take care, SPOONS 178/156/140 WW's Goal 158,
Lifetime Jan 2004 Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs My
photo food log fotolog.netgigglesOpen ↗

good luck and let us know what you decide, and then a review after that,
Lee, feeling nosy today
SPOONS <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi all,

Thanks for such great input. After doing some research I
now know that I can NOT use one machine to target certain
body parts. Plus Joyce gave

some

Quoted message said:

great info.

The other day I happen to bump into a neighbor & I was
speaking to her

about

Quoted message said:

these machines and then she tells me that she has a
Gazelle, so I went

over

Quoted message said:

there and tried it for 3 days at 25 minutes each. I worked
up a good

sweat

Quoted message said:

and my thighs are really sore but that's it. Now I know I
don't like it. The gliding motion just doesn't feel right.

I also went to some department stores and tried some
elliptical machines

and

Quoted message said:

there's just so many styles & features. But at least the
circular motion feels normal, it's like riding a bike,
walking even running, plus you can increase resistance so
as your body gets stronger the machine grows with you.
Where as the Gazelle there isn't any resistance so when
you get to

a

Quoted message said:

certain point you've plateau and the machine isn't
growing with you. As for a treadmill well I haven't tried
one yet but I was told that it's high maintenance & hard
on joints.

I want to go to an actual fitness store and try out
different machines to see which one suits me best. I don't
want a machine that will end up

being

Quoted message said:

a piece of furniture. Thanks again for all your great
opinions.

Take care, SPOONS .......................................-
.......................

"SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message -"]news:[email hidden]-
le.rogers.com...

Quoted message said:

Hi all,

I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so
many out there I

don't

Quoted message said:

know which one to choose from. I'm debating between an
Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony Robins Gazelle cross
Trainer.

I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs & butt.
Which machine

would

Quoted message said:

do all these things?

Thanks & Take care, SPOONS 178/156/140 WW's Goal 158,
Lifetime Jan 2004 Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs My
photo food log fotolog.netgigglesOpen ↗

Hi Joyce,

Well it was a salesperson at a fitness store that told me
that treadmills are high maintenace. He said the same thing
you said...treadmills are not hard on joints if used for
walking but if you're jogging even with the soft spring
it'll be hard on joints.

As you can tell...Yes I went to a fitness store and I tried
a treadmill, elliptical, recumbant bike & a stepper. BOY!!!
what a work out..hahaha

I'm leaning towards an elliptical but I'm still going to do
some more testing since these machines cost a bundle. Price
is what helding me back from buying one today $3000 for a
machine is something I want to think over. Plus I want to
look at some less expensive models.

Take care, SPOONS

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I don't know who gave you your information on the
treadmill, but I have

not ever

Quoted message said:

found it to be high maintenance (and I have had one for
many, many years)

nor hard

Quoted message said:

on joints. It's for walking ... we walk every day. The
machine just

keeps you at

Quoted message said:

a constant pace is all. Now possibly if you are going to
jog on it, then

it could

Quoted message said:

be tougher on the joints, as jogging is more weight
bearing ... but not

just

Quoted message said:

walking. And many of the newer models have springs, which
make the

surface much

Quoted message said:

easier even for running. My son uses it to run, for leg
strengthening

(again, for

Quoted message said:

the pitcher in him). He used one with the springs at
school, said the

difference

Quoted message said:

is incredible - much easier on his knees than running on
the pavement.

This might

Quoted message said:

be something for you to keep in mind when you are looking.
The extra cost

is well

Quoted message said:

worth the comfort. As for maintenance ... on the old
treadmill I only

had to

Quoted message said:

give a squirt of lubricant spray under the belt
occassionally (very occassionally). I'm not sure what is
high maintenance about that.

My daughter has an eliptical machine - swears by it. I
don't care for it

at all -

Quoted message said:

again, for me it was tough on my nasty knees. I found it
much tougher

than using

Quoted message said:

a recumbant bike. I think it had something to do with the
circular motion

and

Quoted message said:

standing ... more weight coming down on my knees on the
downward swing,

more

Quoted message said:

resistance on the upward. Maybe now that I weigh less it
would be easier,

but at

Quoted message said:

my heaviest, I had a very difficult time with it. Hubs
recumbant bike is

nice -

Quoted message said:

not sure if you even threw that into your mix of ideas or
not. It's just

like

Quoted message said:

riding a bike, no achy knees for me - the trick (for me)
was finding the

right

Quoted message said:

spot to get the seat adjusted ... too far or too close and
it put more

pressure on

Quoted message said:

my knees. Ya know, I'm starting to dislike my knees. <G>

Try them all out! I found the sports stores to be
wonderful about

starting

Quoted message said:

machines up and letting us test each of them ... they
actually encouraged

it. And

Quoted message said:

no one hovered over us at all - let us use them as long as
we wanted.

Have you made any decision yet, or are you still looking
around and

testing?

Quoted message said:

Jyce

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:51:38 GMT, "SPOONS"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hi all,

Thanks for such great input. After doing some research I
now know that I can NOT use one machine to target certain
body parts. Plus Joyce gave

some

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

great info.

The other day I happen to bump into a neighbor & I was
speaking to her

about

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

these machines and then she tells me that she has a
Gazelle, so I went

over

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

there and tried it for 3 days at 25 minutes each. I
worked up a good

sweat

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and my thighs are really sore but that's it. Now I
know I don't like it. The gliding motion just doesn't
feel right.

I also went to some department stores and tried some
elliptical machines

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

there's just so many styles & features. But at least the
circular motion feels normal, it's like riding a bike,
walking even running, plus you can increase resistance so
as your body gets stronger the machine grows with you.
Where as the Gazelle there isn't any resistance so when
you get

to a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

certain point you've plateau and the machine isn't
growing with you. As for a treadmill well I haven't tried
one yet but I was told that it's high maintenance & hard
on joints.

I want to go to an actual fitness store and try out
different machines to see which one suits me best. I
don't want a machine that will end up

being

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

a piece of furniture. Thanks again for all your great
opinions.

Take care, SPOONS ......................................-
........................

"SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Hi all,

I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so
many out there I

don't

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know which one to choose from. I'm debating between an
Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony Robins Gazelle
cross Trainer.

I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs & butt.
Which machine

would

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do all these things?

Thanks & Take care, SPOONS 178/156/140 WW's Goal 158,
Lifetime Jan 2004 Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs My
photo food log fotolog.netgigglesOpen ↗

Do you have a "Play it Again Sports" or other used sporting
goods place near you? We saved a ton of money on a used
treadmill there.

"SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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gers.com...

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Hi Joyce,

Well it was a salesperson at a fitness store that told me
that treadmills are high maintenace. He said the same
thing you said...treadmills are not hard on joints if used
for walking but if you're jogging even with the

soft

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spring it'll be hard on joints.

As you can tell...Yes I went to a fitness store and I
tried a treadmill, elliptical, recumbant bike & a stepper.
BOY!!! what a work out..hahaha

I'm leaning towards an elliptical but I'm still going to
do some more testing since these machines cost a bundle.
Price is what helding me back from buying one today $3000
for a machine is something I want to think

over.

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Plus I want to look at some less expensive models.

Take care, SPOONS

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I don't know who gave you your information on the
treadmill, but I have

not ever

Quoted message said:

found it to be high maintenance (and I have had one for
many, many

years)

Quoted message said:

nor hard

Quoted message said:

on joints. It's for walking ... we walk every day. The
machine just

keeps you at

Quoted message said:

a constant pace is all. Now possibly if you are going to
jog on it,

then

Quoted message said:

it could

Quoted message said:

be tougher on the joints, as jogging is more weight
bearing ... but not

just

Quoted message said:

walking. And many of the newer models have springs,
which make the

surface much

Quoted message said:

easier even for running. My son uses it to run, for leg
strengthening

(again, for

Quoted message said:

the pitcher in him). He used one with the springs at
school, said the

difference

Quoted message said:

is incredible - much easier on his knees than running on
the pavement.

This might

Quoted message said:

be something for you to keep in mind when you are
looking. The extra

cost

Quoted message said:

is well

Quoted message said:

worth the comfort. As for maintenance ... on the old
treadmill I only

had to

Quoted message said:

give a squirt of lubricant spray under the belt
occassionally (very occassionally). I'm not sure what is
high maintenance about that.

My daughter has an eliptical machine - swears by it. I
don't care for

it

Quoted message said:

at all -

Quoted message said:

again, for me it was tough on my nasty knees. I found it
much tougher

than using

Quoted message said:

a recumbant bike. I think it had something to do with
the circular

motion

Quoted message said:

and

Quoted message said:

standing ... more weight coming down on my knees on the
downward swing,

more

Quoted message said:

resistance on the upward. Maybe now that I weigh less it
would be

easier,

Quoted message said:

but at

Quoted message said:

my heaviest, I had a very difficult time with it. Hubs
recumbant bike

is

Quoted message said:

nice -

Quoted message said:

not sure if you even threw that into your mix of ideas
or not. It's

just

Quoted message said:

like

Quoted message said:

riding a bike, no achy knees for me - the trick (for me)
was finding the

right

Quoted message said:

spot to get the seat adjusted ... too far or too close
and it put more

pressure on

Quoted message said:

my knees. Ya know, I'm starting to dislike my knees. <G>

Try them all out! I found the sports stores to be
wonderful about

starting

Quoted message said:

machines up and letting us test each of them ... they
actually

encouraged

Quoted message said:

it. And

Quoted message said:

no one hovered over us at all - let us use them as long
as we wanted.

Have you made any decision yet, or are you still looking
around and

testing?

Quoted message said:

Jyce

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:51:38 GMT, "SPOONS"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hi all,

Thanks for such great input. After doing some research
I now know that

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

can NOT use one machine to target certain body parts.
Plus Joyce gave

some

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

great info.

The other day I happen to bump into a neighbor & I was
speaking to her

about

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

these machines and then she tells me that she has a
Gazelle, so I went

over

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

there and tried it for 3 days at 25 minutes each. I
worked up a good

sweat

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and my thighs are really sore but that's it. Now I know
I don't like

it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The gliding motion just doesn't feel right.

I also went to some department stores and tried some
elliptical

machines

Quoted message said:

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

there's just so many styles & features. But at least
the circular

motion

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

feels normal, it's like riding a bike, walking even
running, plus you

can

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

increase resistance so as your body gets stronger the
machine grows

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

you. Where as the Gazelle there isn't any resistance so
when you get

to a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

certain point you've plateau and the machine isn't
growing with you. As for a treadmill well I haven't
tried one yet but I was told that

it's

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

high maintenance & hard on joints.

I want to go to an actual fitness store and try out
different machines

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

see which one suits me best. I don't want a machine
that will end up

being

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

a piece of furniture. Thanks again for all your great
opinions.

Take care, SPOONS ....................................-
..........................

"SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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able.rogers.com...
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so
> many out there

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

don't
> know which one to choose from. I'm debating between
> an Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony Robins Gazelle
> cross Trainer.
>
> I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs &
> butt. Which machine
would
> do all these things?
>
> Thanks & Take care, SPOONS 178/156/140 WW's Goal 158,
> Lifetime Jan 2004 Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs My
> photo food log fotolog.netgigglesOpen ↗
>
>

YOUCH! $3000 is a hefty price tag - but it might just be
what you need to make sure you will use the equipment. <G>
And I am a firm believer that cheaper is not always better.
You are doing great putting the effort into researching all
your options.

Joyce

SPOONS said:

Hi Joyce,

Well it was a salesperson at a fitness store that told me
that treadmills are high maintenace. He said the same thing
you said...treadmills are not hard on joints if used for
walking but if you're jogging even with the soft spring
it'll be hard on joints.

As you can tell...Yes I went to a fitness store and I tried
a treadmill, elliptical, recumbant bike & a stepper. BOY!!!
what a work out..hahaha

I'm leaning towards an elliptical but I'm still going to do
some more testing since these machines cost a bundle. Price
is what helding me back from buying one today $3000 for a
machine is something I want to think over. Plus I want to
look at some less expensive models.

Take care, SPOONS

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I don't know who gave you your information on the
treadmill, but I have

not ever

Quoted message said:

found it to be high maintenance (and I have had one for
many, many years)

nor hard

Quoted message said:

on joints. It's for walking ... we walk every day. The
machine just

keeps you at

Quoted message said:

a constant pace is all. Now possibly if you are going to
jog on it, then

it could

Quoted message said:

be tougher on the joints, as jogging is more weight
bearing ... but not

just

Quoted message said:

walking. And many of the newer models have springs, which
make the

surface much

Quoted message said:

easier even for running. My son uses it to run, for leg
strengthening

(again, for

Quoted message said:

the pitcher in him). He used one with the springs at
school, said the

difference

Quoted message said:

is incredible - much easier on his knees than running on
the pavement.

This might

Quoted message said:

be something for you to keep in mind when you are
looking. The extra cost

is well

Quoted message said:

worth the comfort. As for maintenance ... on the old
treadmill I only

had to

Quoted message said:

give a squirt of lubricant spray under the belt
occassionally (very occassionally). I'm not sure what is
high maintenance about that.

My daughter has an eliptical machine - swears by it. I
don't care for it

at all -

Quoted message said:

again, for me it was tough on my nasty knees. I found it
much tougher

than using

Quoted message said:

a recumbant bike. I think it had something to do with the
circular motion

and

Quoted message said:

standing ... more weight coming down on my knees on the
downward swing,

more

Quoted message said:

resistance on the upward. Maybe now that I weigh less it
would be easier,

but at

Quoted message said:

my heaviest, I had a very difficult time with it. Hubs
recumbant bike is

nice -

Quoted message said:

not sure if you even threw that into your mix of ideas or
not. It's just

like

Quoted message said:

riding a bike, no achy knees for me - the trick (for me)
was finding the

right

Quoted message said:

spot to get the seat adjusted ... too far or too close
and it put more

pressure on

Quoted message said:

my knees. Ya know, I'm starting to dislike my knees. <G>

Try them all out! I found the sports stores to be
wonderful about

starting

Quoted message said:

machines up and letting us test each of them ... they
actually encouraged

it. And

Quoted message said:

no one hovered over us at all - let us use them as long
as we wanted.

Have you made any decision yet, or are you still looking
around and

testing?

Quoted message said:

Jyce

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:51:38 GMT, "SPOONS"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hi all,

Thanks for such great input. After doing some research I
now know that I can NOT use one machine to target
certain body parts. Plus Joyce gave

some

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

great info.

The other day I happen to bump into a neighbor & I was
speaking to her

about

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

these machines and then she tells me that she has a
Gazelle, so I went

over

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

there and tried it for 3 days at 25 minutes each. I
worked up a good

sweat

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and my thighs are really sore but that's it. Now I know
I don't like it. The gliding motion just doesn't feel
right.

I also went to some department stores and tried some
elliptical machines

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

there's just so many styles & features. But at least the
circular motion feels normal, it's like riding a bike,
walking even running, plus you can increase resistance
so as your body gets stronger the machine grows with
you. Where as the Gazelle there isn't any resistance so
when you get

to a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

certain point you've plateau and the machine isn't
growing with you. As for a treadmill well I haven't
tried one yet but I was told that it's high maintenance
& hard on joints.

I want to go to an actual fitness store and try out
different machines to see which one suits me best. I
don't want a machine that will end up

being

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

a piece of furniture. Thanks again for all your great
opinions.

Take care, SPOONS .....................................-
.........................

"SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message -"]news:[email hidden]-
ble.rogers.com...
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking to buy an exercise machine but there's so
> many out there I
don't
> know which one to choose from. I'm debating between an
> Elliptical, Treadmill, and the Tony Robins Gazelle
> cross Trainer.
>
> I really want to flatten my abs & firm my legs & butt.
> Which machine
would
> do all these things?
>
> Thanks & Take care, SPOONS 178/156/140 WW's Goal 158,
> Lifetime Jan 2004 Personal Goal 140, Lost: 22 lbs My
> photo food log fotolog.netgigglesOpen ↗
>
>