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  1. Seems that the "Two Wheels" column in the Grauniad is a regular. So which
    Stereotype are you? Of course I myself personally do not conform to any of
    them. (Though maybe a campaign-commuter without the stickers).

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/wheels/story/0,,1585067,00.html

    Most cyclists seem to relish the feeling of belonging to an embattled
    minority. And what defines "us" is mostly our common disdain for "them" -
    the assorted sinners of the road-going universe: U-turning black cabbies,
    oblivious bus drivers, flash gits in sports cars, school-run mums in SUVs,
    Royal Mail truck drivers "going postal", the ubiquitous white-van man. It's
    astonishing - and possibly a little outrageous - the number of stereotypes
    we carry around in our heads.

    But imagine the tables turned. What do cyclists look like if we see
    ourselves as others see us? We may think we are all just individuals united
    by our choice of personal transport, but I guarantee that, for every
    cyclist, someone sees a stereotype. "Lycra lout" is the obvious one. We may
    not wish to own it, but drivers would definitely say they know one when they
    see one. But not all derogatory tags come from outside. Sports cyclists
    sometimes talk about "nodders" - referring to the unconscious habit of many
    casual riders to nod their heads up and down as they pedal. Mean? Absolutely
    (but just look around).

    Others? Well, there is "courier-dude" on a track bike without brakes. And
    "messenger-wannabe", indistinguishable except for having brakes. Then
    there's "campaigner-commuter", usually riding a well-travelled touring bike
    covered in stickers. Behind is "sit-up-and-beggar", pedalling in
    inappropriate footwear the same bike they had when they were students
    (basket optional). And not forgetting "mountainbike-macho", the guy
    (invariably male) who will always overtake you again if you get in front.

    It is easy to get offended by such reductive labels. But it's not just blind
    prejudice; we use them to predict driver behaviour. For example, Q: what is
    the likelihood of this vehicle ahead of me at the lights turning left
    without indicating? A: taxi 10%, white van 40%, SUV man talking on his
    mobile 90%, etc. And I suspect motorists are watching cyclists and doing the
    maths. Stereotypes? Don't knock 'em. They keep us alive.

  2. POHB said:

    Seems that the "Two Wheels" column in the Grauniad is a regular. So which
    Stereotype are you? Of course I myself personally do not conform to any of
    them. (Though maybe a campaign-commuter without the stickers).

    "Alternative Bike Man", or somesuch. I have been asked if I have any
    "normal bikes", since I usually get about on one of the 'bent, Brom or 8
    Freight.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  3. POHB said:

    Seems that the "Two Wheels" column in the Grauniad is a regular. So which
    Stereotype are you? Of course I myself personally do not conform to any of
    them. (Though maybe a campaign-commuter without the stickers).

    "Pre Heart-Attack Man" - Forties, bit flabby, realising there's more of
    your life behind you than in front of you. Rides reasonable quality
    bikes, has all the right "kit" for the type of cycling involved,
    generally sweaty and red-faced.

    That's me 🙂

  4. Good article, particularly the bit about assessing what's going on
    ahead of you. I've found that I've become a much better driver since
    commuting, mainly because if an 18m bendy bus is turning right, you
    usually need to know some time before it starts indicating...

    I think I'm somewhere between 'messenger-wannabe' and
    'mountainbike-macho'. Got the mtb (with slicks), but currently eyeing
    up a couple of time trial/racing bikes, possibly single speed....

    Nick

    Oh, and I guess 'lycra lout', except my lycra is always carefully
    hidden under baggies...

  5. POHB said:

    Seems that the "Two Wheels" column in the Grauniad is a regular. So which
    Stereotype are you? Of course I myself personally do not conform to any of
    them. (Though maybe a campaign-commuter without the stickers).

    Since I usually ride a fixie, albeit with brakes and other refinements I
    guess I'm a messenger-wannabe.

    Regards,

    -david

  6. "Post Heart-Attack Man" - Skeletally-thin, black cowl, scythe, rides a
    bike made entirely of bones...

  7. "POHB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Seems that the "Two Wheels" column in the Grauniad is a regular. So which
    Stereotype are you? Of course I myself personally do not conform to any
    of them. (Though maybe a campaign-commuter without the stickers).

    Me? I'm Lycra Woman, Warrior of the Road.

    Hear me shout my battle cry to the terminally unobservant motorist...

    "W*NKER!"

    Cheers, helen s

  8. wafflycat said:

    "POHB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Seems that the "Two Wheels" column in the Grauniad is a regular. So which
    Stereotype are you? Of course I myself personally do not conform to any
    of them. (Though maybe a campaign-commuter without the stickers).

    Me? I'm Lycra Woman, Warrior of the Road.

    And Jonathan Ross is the Blue-faced bicyclist..

    Yup.. Warrior of the Woad..

    ...d

  9. POHB wrote:

    <snip of article and sterotypes list>

    Quoted message said:

    Q: what is
    the likelihood of this vehicle ahead of me at the lights turning left
    without indicating?
    A: taxi 10%, white van 40%, SUV man talking on his
    mobile 90%, etc. And I suspect motorists are watching cyclists and doing the
    maths. Stereotypes? Don't knock 'em. They keep us alive.

    What about the guy puffing along (slowly?) in full (immaculately clean)
    USP kit; including full carbon frame and downtube front-derailleur
    lever?

    M.
    (who may be a little jealous?)

  10. Quoted message said:

    What about the guy puffing along (slowly?) in full (immaculately clean)
    USP kit; including full carbon frame and downtube front-derailleur
    lever?


    Hiya, Lance!

  11. wafflycat said:

    Me? I'm Lycra Woman, Warrior of the Road.

    Hear me shout my battle cry to the terminally unobservant motorist...

    "W*NKER!"

    *plonk*

    Peter

  12. Peter Jeram said:
    wafflycat said:

    Me? I'm Lycra Woman, Warrior of the Road.

    Hear me shout my battle cry to the terminally unobservant motorist...

    "W*NKER!"

    *plonk*

    Peter

    Eh? She does drivel on quite a bit, but what did she do to
    deserve that? Or do you need to reread her post again? ;-)

    --
    Nobby

  13. wafflycat said:

    Hear me shout my battle cry to the terminally unobservant motorist...

    "W*NKER!"

    How do you pronounce the asterisk?

    R, innocently.

  14. Richard said:
    wafflycat said:

    Hear me shout my battle cry to the terminally unobservant motorist...

    "W*NKER!"

    How do you pronounce the asterisk?

    Don't be so gauling!

    Colin

  15. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hear me shout my battle cry to the terminally unobservant
    motorist...
    "W*NKER!"


    How do you pronounce the asterisk?


    "I" as in WINKER!. Obviously referring to an unobservant motorist who
    has forgotten to cancel their turn signal.

  16. "sothach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hear me shout my battle cry to the terminally unobservant
    motorist...
    "W*NKER!"


    How do you pronounce the asterisk?


    "I" as in WINKER!. Obviously referring to an unobservant motorist who
    has forgotten to cancel their turn signal.

    Aye, a gentle reminder to a BMW driver ;-)

    Cheers, helen s

  17. "Richard" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    wafflycat said:

    Hear me shout my battle cry to the terminally unobservant motorist...

    "W*NKER!"

    How do you pronounce the asterisk?

    R, innocently.

    See post from sothach on indicators ;-)

    Cheers, helen s

  18. "Colin Blackburn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Richard said:
    wafflycat said:

    Hear me shout my battle cry to the terminally unobservant motorist...

    "W*NKER!"

    How do you pronounce the asterisk?

    Don't be so gauling!

    Colin

    Ze French, zey hav ze right attitood to La petite Reine!

    Enchanté, Helene s ;-)

  19. Nobody Here said:
    Peter Jeram said:
    wafflycat said:

    Me? I'm Lycra Woman, Warrior of the Road.

    Hear me shout my battle cry to the terminally unobservant
    motorist...

    "W*NKER!"

    *plonk*

    Peter

    Eh? She does drivel on quite a bit, but what did she do to
    deserve that? Or do you need to reread her post again? ;-)

    I sometimes have to yell at motorists/peds/other cyclists if they do something
    daft like launch themselves straight into my path, but it's usually a loud
    "OOOOI!!" that's the first thing that happens. Had just that happen yesterday
    when someone in a car pulled out of a side road, and the entertaining bit was the
    way that all the peds within a 100 yard radius stopped to stare at what was going
    on!

  20. in message <[email hidden]>, Chris

    (') said:
    POHB said:

    Seems that the "Two Wheels" column in the Grauniad is a regular. So
    which
    Stereotype are you? Of course I myself personally do not conform to
    any of them. (Though maybe a campaign-commuter without the stickers).

    "Pre Heart-Attack Man" - Forties, bit flabby, realising there's more of
    your life behind you than in front of you. Rides reasonable quality
    bikes, has all the right "kit" for the type of cycling involved,
    generally sweaty and red-faced.

    That's me 🙂

    Oooops...

    Quickly mops brow and hides 'kit'.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; Good grief, I can remember when England won the Ashes.

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