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  1. I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited to ride a "real bike"
    with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...

    She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a Mountain
    Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with skinny tires and
    drop-bars.

    We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many, many moons ago. (My wife
    is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow much more than that.) The Cannondale is in fine
    shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked too big but after
    my daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle, using the old
    upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar. The saddle rails are about 1/4 inch above the
    seat collar; it's not going any lower but my daughter really needs it to go down another 3/4 to 1
    inch. I replaced the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach appears to be OK. Break-reach
    is just a bit too long, though.

    My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from side to side. She loves the
    bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will allow. I don't like the bike fit at all. I think
    she'd stop rocking if her legs were an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might well be by
    mid-summer.

    I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm with 650 wheels. Do you
    have any suggestions as to what's available out there?

    I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available now but it retails at $1200
    and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.

    K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top tube that at $520 is more
    reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller hands. None of the
    local shops have one that small and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to ride it
    before we commit to the purchase.

    Anything else that small out there?

    I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks the one she's riding, hurts
    herself, and loses all interest in riding.

    Thanks, Eurastus.

  2. Eurastus said:

    I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited to ride a "real
    bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...

    She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a
    Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with skinny
    tires and drop-bars.

    We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many, many moons ago. (My
    wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow much more than that.) The Cannondale is in
    fine shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked too big
    but after my daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle, using
    the old upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar. The saddle rails are about 1/4 inch
    above the seat collar; it's not going any lower but my daughter really needs it to go down another
    3/4 to 1 inch. I replaced the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach appears to be OK.
    Break-reach is just a bit too long, though.

    My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from side to side. She loves the
    bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will allow. I don't like the bike fit at all. I think
    she'd stop rocking if her legs were an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might well be
    by mid-summer.

    I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm with 650 wheels. Do you
    have any suggestions as to what's available out there?

    I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available now but it retails at
    $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.

    K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top tube that at $520 is
    more reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller hands. None of
    the local shops have one that small and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to
    ride it before we commit to the purchase.

    Anything else that small out there?

    I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks the one she's riding,
    hurts herself, and loses all interest in riding.

    Fuji makes a small version of their Sora-equipped model (Ace-SE?), with either 650 or 26" wheels.
    It's probably similar to the K2, at a similar price. So you have one more to choose from.

    Matt O.

  3. Thanks for the good advice. However, as far as I can tell from their web-site, it's a 700C wheel. Am
    I missing something?

    Matt O'Toole said:
    Eurastus said:

    I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited to ride a "real
    bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...

    She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a
    Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with skinny
    tires and drop-bars.

    We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many, many moons ago. (My
    wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow much more than that.) The Cannondale is
    in fine shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked too
    big but after my daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle,
    using the old upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar. The saddle rails are about 1/4
    inch above the seat collar; it's not going any lower but my daughter really needs it to go down
    another 3/4 to 1 inch. I replaced the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach appears to
    be OK. Break-reach is just a bit too long, though.

    My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from side to side. She loves
    the bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will allow. I don't like the bike fit at all. I
    think she'd stop rocking if her legs were an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might
    well be by mid-summer.

    I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm with 650 wheels. Do you
    have any suggestions as to what's available out there?

    I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available now but it retails at
    $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.

    K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top tube that at $520 is
    more reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller hands. None of
    the local shops have one that small and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to
    ride it before we commit to the purchase.

    Anything else that small out there?

    I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks the one she's riding,
    hurts herself, and loses all interest in riding.

    Fuji makes a small version of their Sora-equipped model (Ace-SE?), with either 650 or 26" wheels.
    It's probably similar to the K2, at a similar price. So you have one more to choose from.

    Matt O.

  4. At 4'5" even a smallish 650c-wheel road bike is probably going to have too long a reach from seat to
    handlebar (and that K2 you refer to, at 51cm top tube, is most certainly too long!). But you still
    might be able to work something out with a 650c bike... had the exact same situation with my
    10-year-old son. We changed from drop bars to uprights, using Shimano's new flatbar road brake &
    shift levers. Works great and he really cruises on it!

    Unfortunately, the bike we used is no longer made (the TREK 1000 KDZ), but sounds like the little
    Fuji someone else mentioned might be similar.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles chainreactionbicycles.comchainreactionbicycles.com

    "Eurastus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very


    excited

    Quoted message said:

    to ride a "real bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and


    advice...

    Quoted message said:


    She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does


    not

    Quoted message said:

    want to ride a Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't


    get her

    Quoted message said:

    mind off a road bike with skinny tires and drop-bars.

    We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many,


    many

    Quoted message said:

    moons ago. (My wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow


    much

    Quoted message said:

    more than that.) The Cannondale is in fine shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube
    shifters. I thought it looked too big but after


    my

    Quoted message said:

    daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle, using the old
    upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar.


    The

    Quoted message said:

    saddle rails are about 1/4 inch above the seat collar; it's not going any


    lower

    Quoted message said:

    but my daughter really needs it to go down another 3/4 to 1 inch. I


    replaced

    Quoted message said:

    the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach appears to be OK. Break-reach is just a bit
    too long, though.

    My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from


    side to

    Quoted message said:

    side. She loves the bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will


    allow. I

    Quoted message said:

    don't like the bike fit at all. I think she'd stop rocking if her legs


    were an

    Quoted message said:

    inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might well be by mid-summer.

    I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm


    with

    Quoted message said:

    650 wheels. Do you have any suggestions as to what's available out there?

    I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available


    now but

    Quoted message said:

    it retails at $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.

    K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top


    tube

    Quoted message said:

    that at $520 is more reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller
    hands. None of the local shops have one that


    small

    Quoted message said:

    and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to ride it before


    we

    Quoted message said:

    commit to the purchase.

    Anything else that small out there?

    I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks


    the one

    Quoted message said:

    she's riding, hurts herself, and loses all interest in riding.

    Thanks, Eurastus.

  5. OOPS!!! spoke too soon. It appears that their "Finest Womens" model is available with Sora in a 44cm
    with 650 wheels!!!

    Thanks!!

    The local bike shop is listed as a dealer (but I'm surethis small frame wouldn't be in stock)..I'll
    give them a visit tomorrow.

    Thanks again.

    Eurastus said:

    Thanks for the good advice. However, as far as I can tell from their web-site, it's a 700C wheel.
    Am I missing something?

    Matt O'Toole said:
    Eurastus said:

    I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited to ride a "real
    bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...

    She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a
    Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with
    skinny tires and drop-bars.

    We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many, many moons ago. (My
    wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow much more than that.) The Cannondale is
    in fine shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked too
    big but after my daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle,
    using the old upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar. The saddle rails are about
    1/4 inch above the seat collar; it's not going any lower but my daughter really needs it to go
    down another 3/4 to 1 inch. I replaced the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach
    appears to be OK. Break-reach is just a bit too long, though.

    My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from side to side. She loves
    the bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will allow. I don't like the bike fit at all. I
    think she'd stop rocking if her legs were an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might
    well be by mid-summer.

    I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm with 650 wheels. Do you
    have any suggestions as to what's available out there?

    I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available now but it retails at
    $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.

    K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top tube that at $520 is
    more reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller hands. None of
    the local shops have one that small and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to
    ride it before we commit to the purchase.

    Anything else that small out there?

    I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks the one she's riding,
    hurts herself, and loses all interest in riding.

    Fuji makes a small version of their Sora-equipped model (Ace-SE?), with either 650 or 26" wheels.
    It's probably similar to the K2, at a similar price. So you have one more to choose from.

    Matt O.


  6. "Eurastus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter;


    she's very excited

    Quoted message said:

    to ride a "real bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your


    opinions and advice...

    Quoted message said:


    She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic


    that she does not

    Quoted message said:

    want to ride a Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I


    might, I can't get her

    Quoted message said:

    mind off a road bike with skinny tires and drop-bars.

    We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife


    used to ride many, many

    Quoted message said:

    moons ago. (My wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my


    daughter to grow much

    Quoted message said:

    more than that.) The Cannondale is in fine shape--Shimano


    105 7-speed

    Quoted message said:

    components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked


    too big but after my

    Quoted message said:

    daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try.


    I lowered the

    Quoted message said:

    saddle, using the old upside-down seat clamp method on a


    27.2 seat pillar. The

    Quoted message said:

    saddle rails are about 1/4 inch above the seat collar;


    it's not going any lower

    Quoted message said:

    but my daughter really needs it to go down another 3/4 to


    1 inch. I replaced

    Quoted message said:

    the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach


    appears to be OK.

    Quoted message said:

    Break-reach is just a bit too long, though.

    My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking


    her hips from side to

    Quoted message said:

    side. She loves the bike and wants to ride whenever the


    weather will allow. I

    Quoted message said:

    don't like the bike fit at all. I think she'd stop


    rocking if her legs were an

    Quoted message said:

    inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might well be


    by mid-summer.

    Quoted message said:


    I'd really like to get something that fits much


    better...maybe a 40-43cm with

    Quoted message said:

    650 wheels. Do you have any suggestions as to what's


    available out there?

    Quoted message said:


    I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650


    wheels available now but

    Quoted message said:

    it retails at $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich


    for our blood.

    Quoted message said:


    K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm,


    with a 51.2 cm top tube

    Quoted message said:

    that at $520 is more reasonable. It has Sora break


    levers, which can be

    Quoted message said:

    adjusted down for smaller hands. None of the local shops


    have one that small

    Quoted message said:

    and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her


    to ride it before we

    Quoted message said:

    commit to the purchase.

    Anything else that small out there?

    I'd really like to get something that fits her better


    before she wrecks the one

    Quoted message said:

    she's riding, hurts herself, and loses all interest in


    riding.

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks, Eurastus.

    Also check out the small size Giant road bikes - the smallest size compact frames are 43cm seat
    tube. The OCR models also have an adjustable stem, and I believe the lowest Sora equipped model is
    about $650. You should be able to find a local bike shop selling Giant bikes, and could try a fit. A
    compact frame may also allow enough adjustment for her to continue to ride it for a couple of years
    as she grows

  7. Bummer!!! The only dealer Fuji has listed on their site within 100 miles from my home has gone out
    of business...Guess it's mail order, then. Too bad.

    Eurastus said:

    OOPS!!! spoke too soon. It appears that their "Finest Womens" model is available with Sora in a
    44cm with 650 wheels!!!

    Thanks!!

    The local bike shop is listed as a dealer (but I'm surethis small frame wouldn't be in stock)..I'll
    give them a visit tomorrow.

    Thanks again.

    Eurastus said:

    Thanks for the good advice. However, as far as I can tell from their web-site, it's a 700C wheel.
    Am I missing something?

    Matt O'Toole said:

    Eurastus wrote:

    > I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited to ride a "real
    > bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...
    >
    > She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a
    > Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with
    > skinny tires and drop-bars.
    >
    > We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many, many moons ago. (My
    > wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow much more than that.) The Cannondale is
    > in fine shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked too
    > big but after my daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the
    > saddle, using the old upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar. The saddle rails are
    > about 1/4 inch above the seat collar; it's not going any lower but my daughter really needs it
    > to go down another 3/4 to 1 inch. I replaced the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the
    > reach appears to be OK. Break-reach is just a bit too long, though.
    >
    > My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from side to side. She loves
    > the bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will allow. I don't like the bike fit at all. I
    > think she'd stop rocking if her legs were an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might
    > well be by mid-summer.
    >
    > I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm with 650 wheels. Do
    > you have any suggestions as to what's available out there?
    >
    > I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available now but it retails at
    > $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.
    >
    > K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top tube that at $520 is
    > more reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller hands. None
    > of the local shops have one that small and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her
    > to ride it before we commit to the purchase.
    >
    > Anything else that small out there?
    >
    > I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks the one she's riding,
    > hurts herself, and loses all interest in riding.

    Fuji makes a small version of their Sora-equipped model (Ace-SE?), with either 650 or 26" wheels.
    It's probably similar to the K2, at a similar price. So you have one more to choose from.

    Matt O.


  8. In article said:

    I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited

    to ride a "real bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...

    She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a Mountain
    Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with skinny tires and
    drop-bars.

    Personally I'd consider modifying a child's mountain bike with skinny tires and drop bars. It could
    dampen her enthusiasm if she lands hard on the top bar.

    Due to the rate at which children grow they are always a problem with these things, the bike that
    fits them today may not in 6 months. Some compromise is required unless Dad and Mom are made of
    money, but saftey is not the place for that.

    Tom Gibb <[email hidden]

  9. Quoted message said:

    Anything else that small out there?


    Klein Quantum XC, might fit, has a slanted top tube. user.tninet.seMTB.html

  10. "Eurastus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very


    excited

    Quoted message said:

    to ride a "real bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and


    advice...

    Quoted message said:


    First, Hooray for your daughter! You might try a hybrid since most have


    sloping top tubes. Replace the stem, handlebar, brake levers, and shifters to make it into a road
    bike. The advantage is that you could probably find a used hybrid in the right size easier and
    cheaper than the road bike. Downside - probably minimum $100 to make the conversion. Good luck to
    you and your daughter.

  11. I also heard that the Argon 18 R2 (24" wheels) and D2 (650 wheels) are worthy bikes in this same
    size range. I cannot seem to find much on the web--apparently the Argon 18 web site is gone or down.
    Any thoughts on this?

    Eurastus said:

    I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited to ride a "real bike"
    with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...

    She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a Mountain
    Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with skinny tires and
    drop-bars.

    We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many, many moons ago. (My wife
    is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow much more than that.) The Cannondale is in fine
    shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked too big but
    after my daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle, using the
    old upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar. The saddle rails are about 1/4 inch above
    the seat collar; it's not going any lower but my daughter really needs it to go down another 3/4 to
    1 inch. I replaced the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach appears to be OK.
    Break-reach is just a bit too long, though.

    My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from side to side. She loves the
    bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will allow. I don't like the bike fit at all. I think
    she'd stop rocking if her legs were an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might well be by
    mid-summer.

    I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm with 650 wheels. Do you
    have any suggestions as to what's available out there?

    I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available now but it retails at $1200
    and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.

    K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top tube that at $520 is more
    reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller hands. None of the
    local shops have one that small and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to ride it
    before we commit to the purchase.

    Anything else that small out there?

    I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks the one she's riding, hurts
    herself, and loses all interest in riding.

    Thanks, Eurastus.

  12. "Eurastus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I also heard that the Argon 18 R2 (24" wheels) and D2 (650 wheels) are


    worthy

    Quoted message said:

    bikes in this same size range. I cannot seem to find much on the web--apparently the Argon 18 web
    site is gone or down. Any thoughts on


    this?

    Quoted message said:


    Eurastus said:

    I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very


    excited

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to ride a "real bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and


    advice...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does


    not

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    want to ride a Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't


    get

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    her mind off a road bike with skinny tires and drop-bars.

    We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride


    many,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    many moons ago. (My wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow


    much

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    more than that.) The Cannondale is in fine shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube
    shifters. I thought it looked too big but


    after my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle, using the old
    upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat


    pillar.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The saddle rails are about 1/4 inch above the seat collar; it's not going any lower but my
    daughter really needs it to go down another 3/4 to 1 inch. I


    replaced

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    the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach appears to be OK. Break-reach is just a bit
    too long, though.

    My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from


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    side. She loves the bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will


    allow.

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    I don't like the bike fit at all. I think she'd stop rocking if her legs


    were

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    an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might well be by mid-summer.

    I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm


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    650 wheels. Do you have any suggestions as to what's available out


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    I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available


    now

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    but it retails at $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.

    K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top


    tube

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    that at $520 is more reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller
    hands. None of the local shops have one that


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    and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to ride it


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    commit to the purchase.

    Anything else that small out there?

    Look at the Fuji Ace - on eBay all the time

  13. Trailgalore,

    I bought a Fuji Ace SE for my daughter last year. It's a wonderful bike, she has been really using
    it a lot this year. I did a lot of research prior to buying, cannondale's were really geared towards
    the advanced rider (nothing for the novice). Trek makes a kid bike (KR-1000?, something like that)
    which is real close, but a few $ more ($100). Giant also makes a kid size bike, but I can't remember
    their model or if it is still in production. I called most of the retail fuji shops w/i a 500 mile
    radius from Atlanta. Got a shop in NC that would sell the bike, unassembled, add 2 waterbottle cages
    and waterbottles, 1 shop T-shirt for $400 (shipping included). All they had to do is place an order
    to FujiUSA distribution center - they received the bike, cracked open the corner, added extra items
    and reciept and put it on a UPS truck. I get no service because they are in NC and I'm in Atlanta,
    but that's ok because I don't trust 95% of the bike mechanics (kids) out there anyway. I had 1 dose
    of reality when I saw a kid with a chisel in his had ready to remove my crown race from my Super
    Record De Rosa Prestige. Anyway- she has a mix of Fuji/Shimano components on the bike (Sora level)
    and she, as well as myself, are very pleased. Any questions - just ask. bike say's it's 24lbs, but
    no way - it's less than that - maybe 22 to 23.

    Good Luck, Dennis

  14. Thanks for the word, Dennis. I also don't trust anyone near any of my bikes with a wrench
    either...never mind a chisel!!. I worked in LBS's from the time I was a pre-teen until after I
    completed college. If I've got the tool, I'll work on it myself; if I don't have the tool (like a
    headset press or BB reamer), I'll borrow it from the last shop I worked at and still do it myself.
    All hail to the garage/basement mechanics out there!!

    I was able to find a somewhat local dealer that gave me an unbelievable deal on a 2003 Roubaix Pro
    Womens in the 44cm size. I'm planning on stripping the non-small components from the frame and using
    them on one of my own frames for a commuter bike and putting some old 105 I dredged out of my
    junk-box onto the Roubaix frame for my daughter. She's very excited about the frame color...blue and
    white are her favorites. To be frank, I couldn't believe the value of the whole Fuji road-bike line.

    The bike's supposed to be at my door next week. My daughter (and I) can't wait!!

    Thanks, Eurastus...

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    Trailgalore,

    I bought a Fuji Ace SE for my daughter last year. It's a wonderful bike, she has been really using
    it a lot this year. I did a lot of research prior to buying, cannondale's were really geared
    towards the advanced rider (nothing for the novice). Trek makes a kid bike (KR-1000?, something
    like that) which is real close, but a few $ more ($100). Giant also makes a kid size bike, but I
    can't remember their model or if it is still in production. I called most of the retail fuji shops
    w/i a 500 mile radius from Atlanta. Got a shop in NC that would sell the bike, unassembled, add 2
    waterbottle cages and waterbottles, 1 shop T-shirt for $400 (shipping included). All they had to do
    is place an order to FujiUSA distribution center - they received the bike, cracked open the corner,
    added extra items and reciept and put it on a UPS truck. I get no service because they are in NC
    and I'm in Atlanta, but that's ok because I don't trust 95% of the bike mechanics (kids) out there
    anyway. I had 1 dose of reality when I saw a kid with a chisel in his had ready to remove my crown
    race from my Super Record De Rosa Prestige. Anyway- she has a mix of Fuji/Shimano components on the
    bike (Sora level) and she, as well as myself, are very pleased. Any questions - just ask. bike
    say's it's 24lbs, but no way - it's less than that - maybe 22 to 23.

    Good Luck, Dennis

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