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  1. I'm wanting to make the investment in some good cycle shorts, but I have
    no clue what to look for.

    Right now I'm just looking on ebay because I have found what seem to be
    good deals, but please let me know if any of these are actualy deals.

    http://tinyurl.com/337p9s
    http://tinyurl.com/2xsl3l
    http://tinyurl.com/2t5b8k

    Are any of those worth the money? Or should I be looking elsewhere?

    Any help would be great.

    A side question would be, how would I size a bike jersey? Just the same
    as T-shirts? I have yet to find a medium T-shirt that doesn't fit me,
    but sometimes for hoodies I wear a large (only asian brands).

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  2. Cycle shorts I really like are Novara Strada road shorts. They have a
    lot of padding and are really comfy. I usually get a size larger than
    what I should get b/c I like the shorts not extremely constraining.

    Jerseys...it is different on the brand. I usually wear small t-shirts
    and sometimes medium, but I usually go with buying a medium jersey.
    You should probably go to a shop and try on the jerseys you like and
    see the fitting.

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  3. ntappin said:

    I'm wanting to make the investment in some good cycle shorts, but I have
    no clue what to look for.

    Right now I'm just looking on ebay because I have found what seem to be
    good deals, but please let me know if any of these are actualy deals.

    http://tinyurl.com/337p9s
    http://tinyurl.com/2xsl3l
    http://tinyurl.com/2t5b8k

    Are any of those worth the money? Or should I be looking elsewhere?

    Any help would be great.

    A side question would be, how would I size a bike jersey? Just the same
    as T-shirts? I have yet to find a medium T-shirt that doesn't fit me,
    but sometimes for hoodies I wear a large (only asian brands).

    First off, I'd only recommend the baggie style, *not* the spandex!
    Second, you never know what your're getting when you buy clothes
    online; they may not fit for starters. Second, biking shorts vary
    wildly in quality. You want to make sure the crotch/butt pad is THICK
    and absorbant; many of these biking shorts have very little padding,
    making them utterly usless, or at best, unsatisfactory for long rides.

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  4. MuniAddict said:

    First off, I'd only recommend the baggie style, *not* the spandex!

    If you get the spandex ones though then you can wear whatever shorts
    you want on top of them to make them baggy. That is basically all the
    baggy shorts are anyway it is the regular bike shorts inside baggy
    shorts. That way you can wear them with shorts, sweat pants,
    windbreakers, rain pants, anything.

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  5. siafirede said:

    If you get the spandex ones though then you can wear whatever shorts you
    want on top of them to make them baggy. That is basically all the
    baggy shorts are anyway it is the regular bike shorts inside baggy
    shorts. That way you can wear them with shorts, sweat pants,
    windbreakers, rain pants, anything.

    True, but the baggies I have are adjustable around the waist, and all
    the plain spandex I've seen aren't. I also slit the leg area of the
    spandex part under my baggies so they're not so snug on my legs and
    won't ride up as much, lol!

    I guess the one good thing about the spandex part, is that is keeps the
    outer, baggy part from rubbing on your legs when your riding.😎

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  6. I prefer "not-baggies" because you can wear any shorts or pants over
    them, and I've never seen a pair of baggy shorts that have anywhere
    near as nice padding as the "not-baggies". I would start with
    something inexpensive (not the single panel padding though), and work
    your way up until you're comfortable.

    My favorite "jerseys" are the cheap polyester "t-shirts" made for
    sports in general. You can find them in Target (or something similar)
    for 1/3 or 1/4 of the price of a typical bike jersey. I think you can
    probably size a bike jersey the same as a t-shirt--that seems to work
    for me.

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  7. +1 on the tight ones + whichever shorts or pants you want over them.
    That's what I do. Try several sizes in your LBS to figure out the best
    size, several brands too, since w/ some companies they can run small or
    large.

    phlegm said:

    My favorite "jerseys" are the cheap polyester "t-shirts" made for sports
    in general. You can find them in Target (or something similar) for 1/3
    or 1/4 of the price of a typical bike jersey. I think you can probably
    size a bike jersey the same as a t-shirt--that seems to work for me.

    I'd be interested in specifically which _cheap_ ones work.

    On several of the ones I've gotten the stink will not wash out,
    including some $12 ones by Cherokee at Target and $30 ones by REI🙁

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  8. $30 (USD) is what I consider inexpensive, as cycling shorts go. I've
    had good experiences with shorts from Performance bike.

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  9. For Coker riding I've been trying 'Kucharik'
    (http://www.kucharikclothing.com/) shorts with a real chamois pad. The
    price is reasonable even with the real chamois. They have 6 panel or 8
    panel shorts with the chamois.

    The chamois is nice for Cokering. You do have to use chamois cream
    with it and keep the chamois treated well or it will dry out. Old
    school.

    For muni style riding I'm not sitting on the saddle constantly so can
    get by with modern style cycling shorts with the new tech pads.

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  10. First thing I would say is stay away from Ebay if you care about fast
    shipping! Most internet "stores" have a delivery guarantee, such as
    Amazon, who promises to ship out your order in 24-48 hours in most
    cases. Ebay hasn't any such guarantee, since you never know who you're
    buying from, and if there is any conflict in the payment process, who
    knows how long it'll take for your order to arrive.

    I'm going to second (or third or fourth) the advice to avoid the
    integrated shorts ("baggies"😉. Lycra shorts are much more comfortable
    as they hug your body and keep "everything" in place, whereas
    integrated shorts don't. If you're conscious about your looks, you can
    always slap on a pair of trunks or whatever over top of the lycra
    shorts.

    I'd also second the advice to try on a few pairs of shorts in a store
    before ordering... sizes do vary between manufacturers and unless you
    know your size well, it's a [censored] shoot when ordering online.

    phlegm said:

    $30 (USD) is what I consider inexpensive, as cycling shorts go. I've
    had good experiences with shorts from Performance bike.

    Same here. Performance bike has a number of shorts available for $30
    USD or less that fit me quite well and are semi-comfortable for long
    rides (after all, is anything comfortable after three hours in the
    saddle?)

    FWIW, Performance bike has a sizing chart online, and it's pretty
    accurate. Even though I'm a large in most gear, their chart sizes me
    to a medium, and my medium shorts fit me perfectly.

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  11. We've found the most comfotable, functional mix to be a high quality
    pair of spandex bike shorts (with the new tech pad) and over these,
    loose fitting board shorts (Quiksilver, Rusty, et al, all available for
    cheap at places like Ross and other outlets). Chepo bike shorts will
    work for short tech muniing, but once the trail gets over 10 or so
    miles long, it's best to bite the bullet and spend some money on one
    really good pair of bike shorts. I save these for the long rides and
    use cheapos for everything else.

    I find the integrated shorts too thin and they fit funky. Try the bike
    short/board short combo and you'll never go back.

    JL

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  12. john_childs said:

    For Coker riding I've been trying 'Kucharik'
    (http://www.kucharikclothing.com/) shorts with a real chamois pad. The
    price is reasonable even with the real chamois. They have 6 panel or 8
    panel shorts with the chamois.

    Well given how completely uninformative that web site is, I'm surprised
    the JC post did not include more details on how specifically to order
    the chamois shorts, and which shorts specifically you have tried with
    good chamois results. You know there are people out here--not just
    me--that hang on your every product recommendation.

    Details, Mr. Childs, will be greatly appreciated. 🙂

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  13. tomblackwood said:

    Well given how completely uninformative that web site is, I'm surprised
    the JC post did not include more details on how specifically to order
    the chamois shorts, and which shorts specifically you have tried with
    good chamois results. You know there are people out here--not just
    me--that hang on your every product recommendation.

    Details, Mr. Childs, will be greatly appreciated. 🙂

    Oh so funny. Haha
    edit: me +1

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  14. Why not just spandex (traditional bike shorts)?
    Does a unicyclist have to conform to a certain "look"?

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  15. bhayss said:

    Why not just spandex (traditional bike shorts)?
    Does a unicyclist have to conform to a certain "look"?

    That's a matter of personal taste. I find them appropriate for road
    riding, but less useful for the trails, where pockets are much nicer to
    have. And apparently some people would rather die than be seen in
    spandex bike shorts. I was part of the first generation of unicyclists
    at the conventions to wear bike shorts. We got laughed at at first,
    until people started trying them. Then they shut up. I was also in the
    first generation of people to use Camelbaks at the big conventions.
    They laughed at us then too, but only for the first few hours. 🙂

    The only downside to wearing conventional shorts over bike shorts is
    the possibility of thick seams in the crotch. Choose your regular
    shorts carefully and you can find great combinations. Use the wrong
    shorts and they'll make a pair of high-end bike shorts feel no better
    than Fruit of the Looms.

    With integrated ("mountain bike"😉 shorts, I have found a full range
    from funky fit/thin padding to excellent. Shop carefully and you may
    find something that works for you. But the combination of spandex bike
    shorts and conventional shorts over them (or not) is the most flexible,
    allowing you to mix and match.

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  16. bhayss said:

    Why not just spandex (traditional bike shorts)?
    Does a unicyclist have to conform to a certain "look"?

    A loose outer shorts over traditional spandex bike shorts is functional
    for muni. The outer shorts protect the spandex shorts from getting
    ripped when you fall on your butt. Ripping spandex shorts gets to be
    expensive.

    For road riding it's just a matter of personal preference and whether
    you want to have the casual look or the serious road bike racer look.
    For very long Coker rides you may find it more comfortable and less
    bother to forgo the loose outer shorts and just wear the spandex shorts
    cause the outer shorts can bunch up and cause discomfort on a long
    ride.

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  17. tomblackwood said:

    Well given how completely uninformative that web site is, I'm surprised
    the JC post did not include more details on how specifically to order
    the chamois shorts, and which shorts specifically you have tried with
    good chamois results. You know there are people out here--not just
    me--that hang on your every product recommendation.

    Details, Mr. Childs, will be greatly appreciated. 🙂

    I had no idea people hang on my every word. Now that I know that I'm
    going to have to pepper my product recommendations with references to
    proper espresso, proper beer, and proper music.

    'Kucharik' (http://www.kucharikclothing.com/) is popular with some on
    the 'randonneuring' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randonneuring)
    circuit. Classic cycling clothing available in wool, available with a
    traditional real leather chamois, reasonable prices, and old school
    flavor.

    A real leather chamois has some advantages but is also something that
    requires maintenance and attention. The leather takes longer to dry so
    if you're on a tour or riding every day you'll need a few extra pairs
    cause you won't be able to wash the shorts and have them air dry by the
    next day. Modern synthetic padded shorts can generally air dry in a
    day or so. Leather chamois shorts take longer. You also need to use
    chamois cream on the pad to keep it soft and healthy.

    I have one pair of the 6 panel shorts with the real chamois and one
    pair with the ultra suede pad. I'm trying them to see how they work
    and how I like them. I don't like the ultra suede pad for cokering.
    The pad is too "gritty", you can feel the fabric weave after sitting on
    them for a while. The real chamois has been nice so far but I haven't
    tried it on any long rides. If the real chamois option continues to
    work out I'll be getting a few more of the shorts. The real chamois
    option is only $12 more than the basic ultra suede option. Quite a
    deal especially considering that very few companies are still offering
    an option for the real leather chamois.

    And now links:
    'Kucharik 6 panel shorts with real chamois pad option'
    (http://tinyurl.com/2kxd62)
    'Kucharik 8 panel shorts with real chamois pad option'
    (http://tinyurl.com/25sz3j)
    'Kucharik chamois cream'
    (http://www.kucharikclothing.com/chamois-cream-p-340.html) (old school
    style with fish oil addative)

    I haven't tried Chamois Butt'r with the real chamois pad.

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