Which carbon fork is better

Hell and High Water said:

Looking for an inexpensive carbon fork.

1" threaded, 190mm

Choices:

Nashbar: Brand new

Mizuno: New

Kestrel (EMS?): Used

Any thoughts or suggestions on these?

TIA,

-Bob

Any used CFRP fork is a risk. Why take the chance?

Ozark Bicycle said:

Hell and High Water said:

Looking for an inexpensive carbon fork.

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1" threaded, 190mm

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Choices:

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Nashbar: Brand new

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Mizuno: New

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Kestrel (EMS?): Used

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Any thoughts or suggestions on these?

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TIA,

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-Bob

Any used CFRP fork is a risk. Why take the chance?

Ditto.

FWIW, you can get a very handsome chrome steel Tange 1" fork for under
$50.

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FWIW, you can get a very handsome chrome steel Tange 1" fork for under
$50.

Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever broke
before modern materials came on the scene?

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

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Ozark Bicycle said:

Hell and High Water said:

Looking for an inexpensive carbon fork.

Quoted message said:

1" threaded, 190mm

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Choices:

Quoted message said:

Nashbar: Brand new

Quoted message said:

Mizuno: New

Quoted message said:

Kestrel (EMS?): Used

Quoted message said:

Any thoughts or suggestions on these?

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TIA,

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-Bob

Any used CFRP fork is a risk. Why take the chance?

Ditto.

FWIW, you can get a very handsome chrome steel Tange 1" fork for under
$50.

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

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FWIW, you can get a very handsome chrome steel Tange 1" fork for under
$50.

Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever broke
before modern materials came on the scene?

Hi Mike, please tell me, in as detailed of a manner as you need to,
how I'm acting like nothing ever broke before modern materials came on
the scene. I'm guessing that you're having a conversation outside of
this thread--perhaps in your own head, no?

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

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FWIW, you can get a very handsome chrome steel Tange 1" fork for under
$50.

Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever broke
before modern materials came on the scene?

So long as we're making great leaps based on *nothing*, shall we
assume you are saying a used plastic fork is preferable to a new steel
fork?

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--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

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Ozark Bicycle said:

On Aug 4, 2:29 pm, Hell and High Water <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Looking for an inexpensive carbon fork.

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> 1" threaded, 190mm

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> Choices:

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> Nashbar: Brand new

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> Mizuno: New

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> Kestrel (EMS?): Used

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> Any thoughts or suggestions on these?

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> TIA,

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> -Bob

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Any used CFRP fork is a risk. Why take the chance?

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Ditto.

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Hi Mike, please tell me, in as detailed of a manner as you need to,
how I'm acting like nothing ever broke before modern materials came on
the scene. I'm guessing that you're having a conversation outside of
this thread--perhaps in your own head, no?

Inference from your prior remarks in this thread.

Besides, if you want me to be as "detailed of a manner" as possible, I
didn't say *you*, did I? I was speaking a bit more globally, and less
precise than you would wish. My apologies if you are not of the opinion you
believe I believe something other than what your beliefs actually are.

Clear enough?

(What, me, cynical/sarcastic/just plain silly at times? Must be somebody
else at the keyboard...)

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever broke
before modern materials came on the scene?

Mike, Let me ask you this. If you were building up a bike that needed a
used fork, would you worry more about a second hand carbon fibre fork or
an aluminum fork? Maybe your answer is neither one.

On Aug 4, 12:29 pm, Hell and High Water <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Looking for an inexpensive carbon fork.

1" threaded, 190mm

Choices:

Nashbar: Brand new

Mizuno: New

Kestrel (EMS?): Used

Any thoughts or suggestions on these?

TIA,

-Bob

If you're going carbon, definitely get new. With a used one, you don't
know where it's been, so to speak - its crash history, etc. The only
way to know it's never been traumatized it to get a new one, and not
loan out your bike.

Another one available is a Kinesis for sale by Wheel & Sprocket on
ebay.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2lyrxj

It's about 100-150 grams lighter than Nashbar's. He's got it for $199
OBO. On his "Make Offer" auctions, you can usually offer him about 60%
of the Buy It Now price, and he'll either take it or make you a
counteroffer. You could probably get it for about $125, I'd guess.
I've had great service from them and have bought from them many times.

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If you're going carbon, definitely get new. With a used one, you don't
know where it's been, so to speak - its crash history, etc. The only
way to know it's never been traumatized it to get a new one, and not
loan out your bike.

Excellent point. Someone else made a similar point and it made a lot of
sense!

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Another one available is a Kinesis for sale by Wheel & Sprocket on
ebay.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2lyrxj

It's about 100-150 grams lighter than Nashbar's.

Any thoughts/comments on the Nashbar fork?

Looks decent. I have an older steel bike, so 100 grams isn't going to
make a lot of difference.

Plus it's very inexpensive.

Thanks for the info!

-Bob

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Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever
broke before modern materials came on the scene?

Mike, Let me ask you this. If you were building up a bike that needed a
used fork, would you worry more about a second hand carbon fibre fork or
an aluminum fork? Maybe your answer is neither one.

Ick. I wouldn't trust either one. I wouldn't trust used in general, although
I would agree that it's easier to inspect a steel fork for evidence of a
crash than other materials. But in all cases forks have lifespans. The
theoretical lifespan for a carbon fork is actually much greater than that of
steel or aluminum, but that's for one that hasn't been crashed and was built
properly (and not so stupidly-light that it's on the edge of what's possible
to build).

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

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Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever
broke before modern materials came on the scene?

Mike, Let me ask you this. If you were building up a bike that needed a
used fork, would you worry more about a second hand carbon fibre fork or
an aluminum [alloy] fork? Maybe your answer is neither one.

Ick. I wouldn't trust either one.

The aluminium alloy fork could be x-rayed, and the remaining fatigue
life predicted by the maximum flaw size.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
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Tom \'Johnny Sunset\' Sherman said:

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

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> Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever
> broke before modern materials came on the scene?
>
Mike, Let me ask you this. If you were building up a bike that needed a
used fork, would you worry more about a second hand carbon fibre fork or
an aluminum [alloy] fork? Maybe your answer is neither one.

Ick. I wouldn't trust either one.

The aluminium alloy fork could be x-rayed, and the remaining fatigue
life predicted by the maximum flaw size.

Wouldn't that cost more than a used fork? But less than laser
thermography on a carbon one, I guess.