which bike shop is correct?

old10speed said:

got an old 10 speed jap bike, good brand in it's time-nishiki i think.

crank bearings and crank quite loose

shop 1 says cost could be high due to possible scoring of pedal
crank-might require replacement of pedal crank (or whatever it's
called) plus bearings.

Bogus

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shop 2 says repack bearings-very cheap price

If you're planning on riding occasionally to moderately in good
weather, this is the way to go.

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shop 3 says best is to put in bearing insert, cost medium, about $30

They probably mean putting in a modern cartridge bearing, and if so--
that's a great price. Such a sealed unit should last you for years
with little trouble, rain or shine. That's what I'd do, and have it
done. Doesn't matter if you got the bike cheaper than that--it's worth
it.

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which do you think is the best way to go? got the bike for next to
nothing, so don't want to spend alot on it.

Again, what you spent on the bike shouldn't have bearing on what you
spend on the solution--indeed you should look at it like you have more
money to make it into a great bike.

If somebody gave you a new Ford Focus that needed tires--would you hem
and haw and get crappy rubber for it because the car was gratis?

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got an old 10 speed jap bike, good brand in it's time-nishiki i think.

crank bearings and crank quite loose

shop 1 says cost could be high due to possible scoring of pedal
crank-might require replacement of pedal crank (or whatever it's
called) plus bearings.

They are getting you ready in case it is worst case. Until they pull it
apart they won't know. But they don't want to tell you it's $50 and have
that price 5 times higher. Seems perhaps a better shop.

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shop 2 says repack bearings-very cheap price

Did they see it? Repacking the bearings on an old Nishiki probably won't be
a good idea.

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shop 3 says best is to put in bearing insert, cost medium, about $30

New bearings probably are what it needs but they have to look at it first.

landotter said:

On May 20, 2:23 pm, old10speed <[email hidden]> wrote:> got an old 10 speed jap bike, good brand in it's time-nishiki i think.

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crank bearings and crank quite loose

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shop 1 says cost could be high due to possible scoring of pedal
crank-might require replacement of pedal crank (or whatever it's
called) plus bearings.

Bogus

Unlikely, but not necessarily bogus - without taking off the crank
bolts, it may be tough to tell if it's loose bb cups or a loose press-
fit of the crankarms on the spindle. If it's the latter, the whole
thing is toast.

Hank said:

landotter said:

On May 20, 2:23 pm, old10speed <[email hidden]> wrote:> got an old 10 speed jap bike, good brand in it's time-nishiki i think.

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crank bearings and crank quite loose

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shop 1 says cost could be high due to possible scoring of pedal
crank-might require replacement of pedal crank (or whatever it's
called) plus bearings.

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Bogus

Unlikely, but not necessarily bogus - without taking off the crank
bolts, it may be tough to tell if it's loose bb cups or a loose press-
fit of the crankarms on the spindle. If it's the latter, the whole
thing is toast.

true, I didn't catch that due to the jargon. This is one of those
things that's cheap to fix if you're a DIYer with the internet, but
adds up quick at a bike shop.

Hank said:

landotter said:

On May 20, 2:23 pm, old10speed <[email hidden]> wrote:> got an old 10 speed jap bike, good brand in it's time-nishiki i think.

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crank bearings and crank quite loose

Quoted message said:

shop 1 says cost could be high due to possible scoring of pedal
crank-might require replacement of pedal crank (or whatever it's
called) plus bearings.

Bogus

Unlikely, but not necessarily bogus - without taking off the crank
bolts, it may be tough to tell if it's loose bb cups or a loose press-
fit of the crankarms on the spindle. If it's the latter, the whole
thing is toast.

Actually, that's very easy to tell without removing the crank bolts.

You simply grasp the two crankarms and check for play, one relative to the
other. If the cranks are at all loose on the axle, it will be immediately
obvious.

"old10speed" wrote: (clip) got the bike for next to

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nothing, so don't want to spend alot on it, (clip)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sounds logical, but it's not. The original cost is history--you won't get
the money back by not fixing it. Don't spend more on it that it will be
worth.

old10speed said:

got an old 10 speed jap bike, good brand in it's time-nishiki i think.

crank bearings and crank quite loose

shop 1 says cost could be high due to possible scoring of pedal
crank-might require replacement of pedal crank (or whatever it's
called) plus bearings.

shop 2 says repack bearings-very cheap price

shop 3 says best is to put in bearing insert, cost medium, about $30

which do you think is the best way to go? got the bike for next to
nothing, so don't want to spend alot on it, but any fix has to last.
or is it better to just buy a different bike?

Pop it apart and look at it. If the"spindle" is damaged, decide
whether to replace it (relativly cheap, generally) or install a sealed
unit (can range from cheap to outrageous). If it is not damaged, just
repack it.
Get the tools to do it yourself and repack every year or so and it
will last a LONG time.
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old10speed said:

shop 3 says best is to put in bearing insert, cost medium, about $30

which do you think is the best way to go? got the bike for next to
nothing, so don't want to spend alot on it, but any fix has to last.
or is it better to just buy a different bike?

I would go with number three. Had it done once and it was the only
thing working perfectly when I finally scrapped the bike.

Tomas