Where syringes are tested.

I thuoght that was reaching into coin slots of pay phones,
in the pump handles at the gas station, or in movie
theatre chairs.

Actually, if you log onto www.snopes.com and type "syringe"
into the search engine, you can read up on email and usenet
hoaxes and legends.

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"Don Saklad" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]... Besides in
television scripts of autopsy investigations like CSI, where
are syringes actually tested, if necessary ?...

You take out an infirm neighbor's trash bag. You feel a
needle stick in your finger.

Don Saklad said:

Besides in television scripts of autopsy
investigations like CSI, where are syringes
actually tested, if necessary ?...

You take out an infirm neighbor's trash bag. You feel a
needle stick in your finger.

Well, what are you concerned with? Obviously, the
neighbor shouldn't be injecting themselves unless
they are insulin-dependent diabetics. If you know
the neighbor, you ask about the medical history. It
is obviously a bigger problem if you walk on a
deserted beach and step on a discarded needle. Some
of the viruses are pretty hardy; some die quickly if
they dry. My experience with this is as a dentist,
not an infectious disease expert. I don't know if
testing of the needle is reliable. Generally, needle-
stick victims have to be tested for the obvious blood-
borne diseases periodically. In the workplace I
believe OSHA and the CDC have regimens that are
supposed to be followed in the event of an
accidental needle-stick incident, and they probably
have that information. I have heard that the
infection rate for a single needle stick with an
infected needle is on the order of 50% for hepatitis-
B, much lower for HIV (I've heard on the order of
maybe 1%). Obviously this depends on the actual
amount of infected material on the needle.

Steve

"Don Saklad" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Besides in television scripts of autopsy
investigations like

CSI,

Quoted message said:

where are syringes actually tested, if necessary
?...

You take out an infirm neighbor's trash bag. You feel a
needle stick in

your finger.

In the real world (not television), the syringe isn't
tested, the person that got stuck is tested (and perhaps
treated empirically). Syringes might be tested as one
component of investigation toward building an evidence base
in a criminal matter, but it is notoriously unreliable with
a high percentage of false negatives and would not ever be
done in a simple needle-stick situation.

If you were stuck with a syringe, you need to go see your
doctor. And to be effective, it needs to be soon (like the
day you got stuck). Any doctor's office, hospital, or ER has
specific protocols for dealing with such an event.

HMc

Don Saklad said:

Besides in television scripts of autopsy
investigations like CSI, where are syringes
actually tested, if necessary ?...

They aren't. If you suffer a needle stick, it's not the
needle that needs to be tested...it's *you* and (if known)
the person who used the needle. The best place to go,
should you suffer a needlestick, is your doctor. This isn't
a DIY endeavor.

Thank you for the information Christopher A Young, Steven
Bornfield and Howard McCollister !

...if necessary, where are needles actually tested ?...

The enquiry being where exactly, what laboratories do that
kind of testing precisely ?...

It is one thing to decide it is not necessary when you know
where you could get a needle tested.

It is not the same thing to decide because you would not
know where to send it anyway in the case it could make a
difference.

Ah, perhaps that was the fellow's question?

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"Griffin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:2004062317542816807%nospam@herenet... On 2004-06-23
02:59:24 -0400, Don Saklad

Quoted message said:

Besides in television scripts of autopsy

investigations like CSI,

Quoted message said:

where are syringes actually tested, if necessary

?...

They aren't. If you suffer a needle stick, it's not the
needle that needs to be tested...it's *you* and (if known)
the person who used the needle. The best place to go,
should you suffer a needlestick, is your doctor. This isn't
a DIY endeavor.

I'm still not totally sure what you mean "tested"? Do you
mean when the factories design a new needle and have to
inject a few people to see if the needle design works?

I have an impression that you would like to be able to send
a needle some where (after you stick yourself) to see if
there is cause for concern?

You aren't being very clear. Or maybe I'm not reading well.

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"Don Saklad" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]... Thank you for
the information Christopher A Young, Steven Bornfield and
Howard McCollister !

...if necessary, where are needles actually tested ?...

The enquiry being where exactly, what laboratories do that
kind of testing precisely ?...

It is one thing to decide it is not necessary when you know
where you could get a needle tested.

It is not the same thing to decide because you would not
know where to send it anyway in the case it could make a
difference.

Don Saklad said:

Besides in television scripts of autopsy
investigations like CSI, where are syringes
actually tested, if necessary ?...

You take out an infirm neighbor's trash bag. You feel a
needle stick in your finger.

Contact Daniel Holstein and ask him (I suggest calling,
mailing or faxing, some don't pay much attention to e-
mails). theiai.orgreOpen ↗
quirements.html. He was somehow involved with the show and
is considered "one of the country’s top experts" or look up
"forensics" in your phone book. Here's an
example.http://www.forensicconsult.com/

If that doesn't work, here's a list of places where they're
trained crime-scene-investigator.netcsiOpen ↗
training.html If one of them is near you, take it there or
maybe best to call first and find out what lab. J

J said:

Contact Daniel Holstein and ask him (I suggest calling,
mailing or faxing, some don't pay much attention to e-
mails). theiai.orgrOpen ↗
equirements.html. He was somehow involved with the show and
is considered "one of the country’s top experts" or look up
"forensics" in your phone book. Here's an
example.http://www.forensicconsult.com/

If that doesn't work, here's a list of places where they're
trained crime-scene-investigator.netcsiOpen ↗
training.html If one of them is near you, take it there or
maybe best to call first and find out what lab.

I think you misunderstood the poster's question. He got
stuck with a needle in his neighbor's trash and simply
wanted to know what to do about it. Crime scene
investigators and forensics labs aren't what he needs.

Carey Gregory said:

J said:

Contact Daniel Holstein and ask him (I suggest calling,
mailing or faxing, some don't pay much attention to e-
mails). theiai.orgcrime sceneOpen ↗
/requirements.html. He was somehow involved with the show
and is considered "one of the country’s top experts" or
look up "forensics" in your phone book. Here's an
example.http://www.forensicconsult.com/

If that doesn't work, here's a list of places where
they're trained crime-scene-investigator.netcsiOpen ↗
training.html If one of them is near you, take it there
or maybe best to call first and find out what lab.

I think you misunderstood the poster's question. He got
stuck with a needle in his neighbor's trash and simply
wanted to know what to do about it. Crime scene
investigators and forensics labs aren't what he needs.

I understood his question. J

In article <[email hidden]>, J <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Carey Gregory said:

J said:

Contact Daniel Holstein and ask him (I suggest calling,
mailing or faxing, some don't pay much attention to e-
mails). theiai.orgcrime sceOpen ↗
ne/requirements.html. He was somehow involved with the
show and is considered "one of the country’s top
experts" or look up "forensics" in your phone book.
Here's an example.http://www.forensicconsult.com/

If that doesn't work, here's a list of places where
they're trained crime-scene-investigator.netcsiOpen ↗
training.html If one of them is near you, take it there
or maybe best to call first and find out what lab.

I think you misunderstood the poster's question. He got
stuck with a needle in his neighbor's trash and simply
wanted to know what to do about it. Crime scene
investigators and forensics labs aren't what he needs.

I understood his question.

J, he is a kook. Do a websearch; you'll see for yourself.

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