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  1. I noticed he's not in the Giro and yesterday on my ride (near Sacramento) I
    was passed by a helmetless, relatively hairless guy on a Ridley with the
    full Davitamon-Lotto kit... just wondering if that was him. The guy was too
    fast to be a poser.

  2. Brian Phillips said:

    I noticed he's not in the Giro and yesterday on my ride (near Sacramento) I
    was passed by a helmetless, relatively hairless guy on a Ridley with the
    full Davitamon-Lotto kit... just wondering if that was him. The guy was too
    fast to be a poser.

    Relatively hairless?

  3. "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Brian Phillips said:

    I noticed he's not in the Giro and yesterday on my ride (near Sacramento)
    I
    was passed by a helmetless, relatively hairless guy on a Ridley with the
    full Davitamon-Lotto kit... just wondering if that was him. The guy was
    too
    fast to be a poser.

    Relatively hairless?

    The relatively hairless skin of humans compared with the thick coats seen on
    other primates is a difference that has long interested
    paleoanthropologists. Though we have maintained the same amount of hair
    folicles, our ancestors lost their functional body hair and evolved a fine
    hair covering or what is often referred to as a naked skin. The loss of
    functional body hair is usually thought to be an adaptation to
    thermoregulation (keeping the body at a constant temperature).
    All warm-blooded mammals must maintain a homeostatic (internally balanced)
    body temperature that does not vary by more than a couple of degrees to
    insure proper bodily functions. One way to accomplish this is by panting,
    the rapid intake and exhalation of air through the mouth. Many animals rely
    upon panting -- watch your cat or dog outside on a hot day. Humans, however,
    are limited in their ability to pant. The rapid intake of air through the
    mouth causes hyperventilation if done for an extended time period. Thus,
    panting is an adaptation for animals that engage predominately in short
    bursts of activity. Another way to keep body temperature constant is to
    avoid solar radiation by staying out of the sun. Some animals are nocturnal,
    avoiding exposure to the sun entirely. However, this is not feasible for
    many animals, many of which rely upon the daylight hours for finding food.

    Other adaptations to thermoregulation involve complex biological changes.
    One way is to reduce the surface area exposed to direct sunlight. This has
    been proposed as a factor in the evolution of bipedality. As early humans
    adopted an upright posture, they decreased the surface area that would be
    exposed to the sun's rays during the hottest hours of the day. The surface
    area to volume, or body mass, ratio (SA/BM) helps individuals maintain
    homeostatic temperatures by increasing or decreasing the area from which
    heat can escape. A lower SA/BM ratio benefits individuals living in colder
    climates and those living in extremely humid environments (such as
    rainforests). The relatively low ratio found among populations inhabiting
    humid environments occurs because humidity decreases the effectiveness of
    evaporative cooling. The higher ratio allows greater amounts of heat to
    escape and is more advantageous in hot, dry climates. Increasing peripheral
    vasodilation, bringing blood vessels to the skin surface to cool blood down,
    is another adaptation. Nasal morphology was also changed to moisturize the
    inhaled air (essential before it enters the lungs) and then to extract and
    retain the moisture inside our bodies as the air is exhaled.

    Mammalian body hair acts as an insulator, allowing a constant temperature to
    be maintained. When the external temperatures fall, body hair helps trap
    heat. When environmental temperatures are higher than internal temperatures,
    body hair provides a filter for solar radiation, protecting the body's
    surface from direct exposure that would raise internal temperatures.
    However, in hot weather, the thick fur can make it difficult for excess body
    heat to be dissipated. In humans, exposed skin allows heat to escape easily
    from the body through sweat and evaporation. The cost of exposed skin is
    that the body has no way to trap escaping heat when the external temperature
    is lower than internal temperatures.

    Although it is impossible to find evidence of exactly when functional
    hairlessness occurred in human evolution, it is possible to infer the timing
    of other thermoregulatory changes. Members of the genus [censored] have modern
    body proportions (longer legs and shorter arms) whereas earlier hominins had
    more ape-like bodies. The taller and thinner hominins would have been able
    to diffuse heat more effectively in an open environment. Increasing aridity
    and the spread of open habitats would have placed a premium on relatively
    hairless, evaporative skin as a way of regulating body temperature.

  4. Clint Torus said:

    "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Brian Phillips said:

    I noticed he's not in the Giro and yesterday on my ride (near Sacramento)
    I
    was passed by a helmetless, relatively hairless guy on a Ridley with the
    full Davitamon-Lotto kit... just wondering if that was him. The guy was
    too
    fast to be a poser.

    Relatively hairless?

    The relatively hairless skin of humans compared with the thick coats seen on
    other primates is a difference that has long interested
    paleoanthropologists. Though we have maintained the same amount of hair
    folicles, our ancestors lost their functional body hair and evolved a fine
    hair covering or what is often referred to as a naked skin. The loss of
    functional body hair is usually thought to be an adaptation to
    thermoregulation (keeping the body at a constant temperature).
    All warm-blooded mammals must maintain a homeostatic (internally balanced)
    body temperature that does not vary by more than a couple of degrees to
    insure proper bodily functions. One way to accomplish this is by panting,
    the rapid intake and exhalation of air through the mouth. Many animals rely
    upon panting -- watch your cat or dog outside on a hot day. Humans, however,
    are limited in their ability to pant. The rapid intake of air through the
    mouth causes hyperventilation if done for an extended time period. Thus,
    panting is an adaptation for animals that engage predominately in short
    bursts of activity. Another way to keep body temperature constant is to
    avoid solar radiation by staying out of the sun. Some animals are nocturnal,
    avoiding exposure to the sun entirely. However, this is not feasible for
    many animals, many of which rely upon the daylight hours for finding food.

    Other adaptations to thermoregulation involve complex biological changes.
    One way is to reduce the surface area exposed to direct sunlight. This has
    been proposed as a factor in the evolution of bipedality. As early humans
    adopted an upright posture, they decreased the surface area that would be
    exposed to the sun's rays during the hottest hours of the day. The surface
    area to volume, or body mass, ratio (SA/BM) helps individuals maintain
    homeostatic temperatures by increasing or decreasing the area from which
    heat can escape. A lower SA/BM ratio benefits individuals living in colder
    climates and those living in extremely humid environments (such as
    rainforests). The relatively low ratio found among populations inhabiting
    humid environments occurs because humidity decreases the effectiveness of
    evaporative cooling. The higher ratio allows greater amounts of heat to
    escape and is more advantageous in hot, dry climates. Increasing peripheral
    vasodilation, bringing blood vessels to the skin surface to cool blood down,
    is another adaptation. Nasal morphology was also changed to moisturize the
    inhaled air (essential before it enters the lungs) and then to extract and
    retain the moisture inside our bodies as the air is exhaled.

    Mammalian body hair acts as an insulator, allowing a constant temperature to
    be maintained. When the external temperatures fall, body hair helps trap
    heat. When environmental temperatures are higher than internal temperatures,
    body hair provides a filter for solar radiation, protecting the body's
    surface from direct exposure that would raise internal temperatures.
    However, in hot weather, the thick fur can make it difficult for excess body
    heat to be dissipated. In humans, exposed skin allows heat to escape easily
    from the body through sweat and evaporation. The cost of exposed skin is
    that the body has no way to trap escaping heat when the external temperature
    is lower than internal temperatures.

    Although it is impossible to find evidence of exactly when functional
    hairlessness occurred in human evolution, it is possible to infer the timing
    of other thermoregulatory changes. Members of the genus [censored] have modern
    body proportions (longer legs and shorter arms) whereas earlier hominins had
    more ape-like bodies. The taller and thinner hominins would have been able
    to diffuse heat more effectively in an open environment. Increasing aridity
    and the spread of open habitats would have placed a premium on relatively
    hairless, evaporative skin as a way of regulating body temperature.

    WTF???? The OP was making reference to his "baldness", I was making a
    joke about just how bald he is, and YOU come up with some silly ass'ed
    plagiarism of wikipedia or some damn place???

  5. Yes, the reference was to his head. The guy I saw yesterday had some around
    the sides, but nothing on top, while recent photos of Horner show him to be
    almost completely hairless on his dome.

    "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    WTF???? The OP was making reference to his "baldness", I was making a
    joke about just how bald he is, and YOU come up with some silly ass'ed
    plagiarism of wikipedia or some damn place???

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Clint Torus said:

    "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Brian Phillips said:

    I noticed he's not in the Giro and yesterday on my ride (near Sacramento)
    I
    was passed by a helmetless, relatively hairless guy on a Ridley with the
    full Davitamon-Lotto kit... just wondering if that was him. The guy was
    too
    fast to be a poser.

    Relatively hairless?

    The relatively hairless skin of humans compared with the thick coats seen on

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    and the spread of open habitats would have placed a premium on relatively
    hairless, evaporative skin as a way of regulating body temperature.

    Yes, or maybe [censored] sapiens is an arrested development ape.
    Physiologically consistent.

    --
    Michael Press

  7. Scott said:

    WTF???? The OP was making reference to his "baldness", I was making a
    joke about just how bald he is, and YOU come up with some silly ass'ed
    plagiarism of wikipedia or some damn place???

    Dude, it's completely on topic. Read the part about how cats
    and dogs pant to regulate body temperature, but how this only
    works for animals that do short bursts of effort - sprints, that is.
    Others need to radiate heat, so no coat of fur.
    (I edited Clint/Emma Phillips's verbiage down to that part, below.)
    Horner, as is well known, is very strong but not the quickest
    sprinter, more of an endurance guy. So he's gotta be hairless.
    This science stuff is very simple once you get the hang of it.
    It also explains why he's gotten better results since he ditched
    the Alexi Lalas look.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Many animals rely
    upon panting -- watch your cat or dog outside on a hot day. Humans, however,
    are limited in their ability to pant. The rapid intake of air through the
    mouth causes hyperventilation if done for an extended time period. Thus,
    panting is an adaptation for animals that engage predominately in short
    bursts of activity. ...
    However, in hot weather, the thick fur can make it difficult for excess body
    heat to be dissipated. In humans, exposed skin allows heat to escape easily ...

  8. Michael Press said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    The relatively hairless skin of humans compared with the thick coats seen on

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    and the spread of open habitats would have placed a premium on relatively
    hairless, evaporative skin as a way of regulating body temperature.

    Yes, or maybe [censored] sapiens is an arrested development ape.
    Physiologically consistent.

    Well done. I see you haven't forgotten the old trick of quoting from
    the end of the work you were supposed to read for class so the prof
    would assume you'd read the whole thing. 😉

    R

  9. Brian Phillips said:

    I noticed he's not in the Giro and yesterday on my ride (near Sacramento) I
    was passed by a helmetless, relatively hairless guy on a Ridley with the
    full Davitamon-Lotto kit... just wondering if that was him. The guy was too
    fast to be a poser.

    It could happen to you
    http://whydecaf.blogspot.com/2006/02/look-who-walked-into-shop-to-buy-seat.html
    (but that was February).

  10. Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Brian Phillips said:

    I noticed he's not in the Giro and yesterday on my ride (near Sacramento) I
    was passed by a helmetless, relatively hairless guy on a Ridley with the
    full Davitamon-Lotto kit... just wondering if that was him. The guy was too
    fast to be a poser.

    It could happen to you
    http://whydecaf.blogspot.com/2006/02/look-who-walked-into-shop-to-buy-seat.html
    (but that was February).

    Apparently, Horner hasn't learned anything:
    last year at about this time, some nameless one was
    posting to rbr about whether or not Horner was a
    poser or snob for riding around Sacto in Saunier Duval kit:

    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_frm/thread/9f7e33d74755184a/c9edb4e1754a450e

    Last year Horner had a pretty good summer, so the
    Sacramento training appears to be back on. Why mess
    with success?

  11. Brian Phillips said:
    Quoted message said:

    I noticed he's not in the Giro and yesterday on my ride (near Sacramento) I
    was passed by a helmetless, relatively hairless guy on a Ridley with the
    full Davitamon-Lotto kit... just wondering if that was him. The guy was too
    fast to be a poser.

    Scott said:

    Relatively hairless?

    If Leipheimer = c, presumably Horner = 0.8c

  12. Quoted message said:

    Dude, it's completely on topic. Read the part about how cats
    and dogs pant to regulate body temperature, but how this only
    works for animals that do short bursts of effort - sprints, that is.
    Others need to radiate heat, so no coat of fur.
    (I edited Clint/Emma Phillips's verbiage down to that part, below.)
    Horner, as is well known, is very strong but not the quickest
    sprinter, more of an endurance guy. So he's gotta be hairless.
    This science stuff is very simple once you get the hang of it.
    It also explains why he's gotten better results since he ditched
    the Alexi Lalas look.

    Discuss your theory wrt the Museeuw toupee.

  13. Donald Munro said:
    Quoted message said:

    Dude, it's completely on topic. Read the part about how cats
    and dogs pant to regulate body temperature, but how this only
    works for animals that do short bursts of effort - sprints, that is.
    Others need to radiate heat, so no coat of fur.
    (I edited Clint/Emma Phillips's verbiage down to that part, below.)
    Horner, as is well known, is very strong but not the quickest
    sprinter, more of an endurance guy. So he's gotta be hairless.
    This science stuff is very simple once you get the hang of it.
    It also explains why he's gotten better results since he ditched
    the Alexi Lalas look.

    Discuss your theory wrt the Museeuw toupee.

    Will the theory, as applied to the Ullrich mullet, successfully predict
    the outcome to this year's TdF?

  14. "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Brian Phillips said:

    I noticed he's not in the Giro and yesterday on my ride (near Sacramento)


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was passed by a helmetless, relatively hairless guy on a Ridley with the
    full Davitamon-Lotto kit... just wondering if that was him. The guy was


    too

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fast to be a poser.

    It could happen to you


    http://whydecaf.blogspot.com/2006/02/look-who-walked-into-shop-to-buy-seat.h
    tml

    Quoted message said:

    (but that was February).

    That saddle sack looks like [censored]! I bet he races with that thing on.

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