Where's Asher When You Really Need Him?

Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=2938762&page=1

"Herein lies the moral danger behind global warming hysteria. Each day,
20,000 people in the world die of waterborne diseases. Half a billion people
go hungry. A child is orphaned by AIDS every seven seconds. This does not
have to happen. We allow it while fretting about "saving the planet." What
is wrong with us that we downplay this human misery before our eyes and
focus on events that will probably not happen even a hundred years hence? We
know that the greatest cause of environmental degradation is poverty; on
this, we can and must act."

Yep, so lets make the minimum US tax rate 50% for anyone making over
$50,000 and $75,000 for a family along with a $4 per gallon feul
charge and hand it all over to UNESCO. You'd support a War on Poverty"
right?

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Meanwhile back with the stupid Liberals:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/11/ngree...

"Scientists who questioned mankind's impact on climate change have received
death threats and claim to have been shunned by the scientific community."

Can't think of a single time where you've threatened anyone, nope,
not a one....Only jackasses make threats over intellectual debates,
right Tom?

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070312/wl_uk_afp/britainpolitics_070312...

"According to excerpts released by the finance ministry, Chancellor of the
Exchequer Brown will also say the United Nations should make the fight
against global warming a core "pillar" of its international mission."

That'd be better than it's current useless , and hopeless agenda. They
might actually get China and some of the other major developing
nations to actually do something productive, finally.

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And of course for the Live-drunk crowd:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/australia/wa/bunbury/200703/s1867910.htm

"A house in Western Australia's south-west is being built entirely from
recycled wine bottles. Around 13,500 wine bottles will be used in the walls
of the house, which owner Peter Little says will save energy."

Gotta hate those hippie recycling MF'ers. [censored].
Helping Tom save the planet with civility
Bill C

Tom Kunich said:

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Sometimes, the only way to respond to you is with a song:

All hail the gods of broadband.

--
Bill Asher

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=2938762&page=1

"Herein lies the moral danger behind global warming hysteria.

It is customary to preface off-topic posting with "OT:" or similar.

-S-

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Tom Kunich wrote:

Sometimes, the only way to respond to you is with a song:

You don't really think that I would bother to click on anything that you'd
cite do you? After all, a fool by any other name would still be an Asher.

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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Tom Kunich wrote:

Sometimes, the only way to respond to you is with a song:

You don't really think that I would bother to click on anything that you'd
cite do you? After all, a fool by any other name would still be an Asher.

Here's the sort of person that Asher looks up to. By the way - this is NOT a
joke.

http://i.thefairest.info/funniest_thumbs/yptUbx.jpeg

http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/articles/V10/N10/EDIT.jsp

"Has the earth warmed by a frightening amount? Absolutely not. The increase
in temperature over the last century or more is only on the order of 1°C.
Has it taken us to an unusual level of warmth? Absolutely not, as evidenced
by the fact that the baseline from which modern warming commenced was the
uncharacteristic cold of the Little Ice Age, which is judged to have been
the coldest interval of the current interglacial, which has itself been
deemed to have been colder than all four of the interglacials that
immediately preceded it (Petit et al., 1999). Clearly, therefore, we are in
the process of emerging from perhaps the coldest interglacial period of the
past half-million years; and we may yet have a ways to go before we return
to what would be considered a more "normal" interglacial climate."

"Have Greenland and Antarctica been losing ice mass at an accelerating rate
that has been causing global sea level to rise at an accelerating rate?
Absolutely not. In fact, we have recently reviewed two sea level studies
that indicate the rate-of-rise of global sea level over the last half of the
20th century was actually less than the rate-of-rise over the first half of
the century (Jevrejeva et al., 2006; Holgate, 2007), which is suggestive of
a decelerating rate of global sea level rise."

When lies and distortions are coming from politicians everywhere it is time
to start laughing in the faces of the fools who actually believe politicians
before scientists.

William Asher said:

Tom Kunich said:

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Sometimes, the only way to respond to you is with a song:

All hail the gods of broadband.

Thanks. I needed that today.

I wonder where I can get some of those white
plastic-frame bubble shades. Also where I can
regrow enough hair to have one of those dos.

Ben

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(Usual stupidity snipped.)

Fowler, H.J. and Archer, D.R. 2006. - Climate Research 19: 4276-4293

The glaciers in the Karakoram and Hindu Kush Mountains of the Upper Indus
Basin (a 200-km x 300-km area) of India are growing.

Field, D.B. and Baumgartner, T.R. 2000. Paleoceanography 15: 695-708.

A study of isotopes show that the Mideval Warm Period occurred along the
Pacific at the same time it occurred in the Atlantic. It also showed that
the Little Ice Age was the coolest period in the last 900 years. (For
Asher - that means that the "huge warming trend" he believes to be caused by
man is nothing more than the earth warming back up to normal temperatures.)

Hanna, E., Jonsson, T., Olafsson, J. and Valdimarsson, H. 2006. Journal of
Climate 19: 5652-5666

"long-term variations and trends that are broadly similar to Icelandic air
temperature records: that is, generally cold conditions during the late
nineteenth and early twentieth centuries; strong warming in the 1920s, with
peak SSTs typically being attained around 1940; and cooling thereafter until
the 1970s, followed once again by warming - but not generally back up to the
level of the 1930s/1940s warm period."

Wait a minute - Asher claims that no sensible scientist doubts man-made
global warming! Despite what the the IPCC has to say the study above PROVES
that the Artic isn't warming alarmingly as the UN says it is.

I know that you're all horrified that someone DOUBTS anthropomorphic global
warming, so you can all vote in more candidates who will double or even
triple the taxes on petroleum and natural gas, who will tax you and pass it
on to the UN and who will continue to chance major businesses out of this
country as they just have with Halliburton.

Billary Clinton has just denounced Halliburton for looking out for their own
interests. According to her, they should be more than happy to be taxed to
death and sued in American courts forever.

William Asher said:

Tom Kunich said:

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I certainly hope someone did that to his vas deferens a long time
ago. Too bad they didn't get to his pappy in time.

Quoted message said:

Sometimes, the only way to respond to you is with a song:

Excellent video. Whoever did that should be knighted.

R

Tom Kunich wrote:

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Tom:

One of the conclusions of the first article states:

5) Summer temperature reductions and positive trend in winter precipitation
imply reduced ablation and increased accumulation of Karakoram glaciers.
These climatic changes are consistent with the observed thickening and
expansion of glaciers in the UIB region, in contrast to widespread retreat
and decay in the eastern Himalayas.

So it appears the growth of glaciers in the Karakoram might be regional
(well, technically sub-regional) effect and not a global phenomenon.

But you are absolutely correct. Everyone knows that Icelandic temperature
records are a direct proxy for global mean temperature. Similarly, it is
also known that temperatures of the U.S. West Coast and small regions of
the N. Atlantic are also good proxies for global mean temperatures. This
is especially valid since the northern hemisphere contains most of the
global land mass and the southern hemisphere is mostly ocean and everyone
knows water and land behave identically in terms of temperature so that you
don't need to worry about problems in extrapolating from a few points to
the entire globe. In fact, soon the entire global enviromental monitoring
network will be extrapolated from a single measurement taken at Svalbaard,
which will be used since everyone will misread it and humorously pronounce
it as "Ballshard" (climate scientists, when they get in the mood,
appreciate a good joke as much as the next 8th grader (they are also
under the misguided assumption that chicks like Heather will read the
"Ballshard" joke and fall instantly in love with them so they can move
to Fiji with her where guys like you will carry them around in
environmentally friendly pedicabs (they know climate science, not women and
I realize you would kill them with a teabag and sugar cube if they even so
much as looked at you when you were driving your pedicab so it's just an
illustrative story as opposed to a statement of reality ok? (and, to be
honest, I threw in the pedicab stuff to at least post something with a
vague mention of something pedaled in it besides [censored])))).

Now, wouldn't you really rather talk about bike racing than snipe at little
old me?

--
Bill Asher

William Asher said:

[censored])))).

Munro will think of a Lisp joke.

--
E. Dronkert

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But you are absolutely correct. Everyone knows that Icelandic temperature
records are a direct proxy for global mean temperature.

Well, at least those smart enough to know that the THEORY of global warming
posits that the greatest change in temperature will occur in the arctic and
antarctic regions. But I'm sure that you simply missed that one.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24760_The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle&only

Even the Liberals in Great Britain have discovered that "anthropomorphic
global warming" is BS. Funny that they haven't been showing these things
here where scientists are getting death threats for commenting about how the
earth is much bigger than man or that climate change is in fact the one
NORMAL feature of the climate.

Tom Kunich said:

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Quoted message said:

But you are absolutely correct. Everyone knows that Icelandic temperature
records are a direct proxy for global mean temperature.

Well, at least those smart enough to know that the THEORY of global warming
posits that the greatest change in temperature will occur in the arctic and
antarctic regions. But I'm sure that you simply missed that one.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24760_The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle&only

Even the Liberals in Great Britain have discovered that "anthropomorphic
global warming" is BS. Funny that they haven't been showing these things
here where scientists are getting death threats for commenting about how the
earth is much bigger than man or that climate change is in fact the one
NORMAL feature of the climate.

You've got the scientists and Liberals properly implicated here, but I
don't understand why you persist in leaving the gays out. They've been
pulling the strings on this global warming thing from behind the scenes
for far too long, with complete impunity. Especially the Islamic ones.

Islamic gay liberal scientists, man, they're the worst!

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Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

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Quoted message said:

But you are absolutely correct. Everyone knows that Icelandic temperature
records are a direct proxy for global mean temperature.

Well, at least those smart enough to know that the THEORY of global warming
posits that the greatest change in temperature will occur in the arctic and
antarctic regions. But I'm sure that you simply missed that one.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24760_The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle&only

Quoted message said:

Even the Liberals in Great Britain have discovered that "anthropomorphic
global warming" is BS. Funny that they haven't been showing these things
here where scientists are getting death threats for commenting about how the
earth is much bigger than man or that climate change is in fact the one
NORMAL feature of the climate.

You cite Little Green Footballs? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

William Asher said:

[censored])))).

Munro will think of a Lisp joke.

Impossible. That code would never parse.

The only language I was ever any good at,

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

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In article <[email hidden]>, "Tom

Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24760_The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle&only

Quoted message said:

Even the Liberals in Great Britain have discovered that "anthropomorphic
global warming" is BS. Funny that they haven't been showing these things
here where scientists are getting death threats for commenting about how
the
earth is much bigger than man or that climate change is in fact the one
NORMAL feature of the climate.

You cite Little Green Footballs?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Leave it to a stupid MF such as yourself to not be aware that they were
citing BBC. But then it's really no surprise that you're incapable of
actually reading anything. After all, you are incontinent.

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

William Asher said:

[censored])))).

Munro will think of a Lisp joke.

Impossible. That code would never parse.

The only language I was ever any good at,

Then you'd have been a wiz at Forth.

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Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Ewoud Dronkert said:

William Asher wrote:
> [censored])))).

Munro will think of a Lisp joke.

Impossible. That code would never parse.

The only language I was ever any good at,

Then you'd have been a wiz at Forth.

I'm not so sure. I think the fact that Lisp was a functional language
and the rather incremental development approach the IDE I was using were
why I had such success in Lisp. Forth shares fun RPN tropes, but is
otherwise just a math-heavy procedural language.

I'll ask my dad; he did Forth coding in school for a short time.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

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Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

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In article <[email hidden]>, "Tom

Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=
24760_The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle&only

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You cite Little Green Footballs?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Leave it to a stupid MF such as yourself to not be aware that they were
citing BBC. But then it's really no surprise that you're incapable of
actually reading anything.

If it's on LGF, then one can very safely assume that it's taken out of
context to the point of uselessness.

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After all, you are incontinent.

Nope, I haven't [censored] myself. But since you're bringing this (ahem) [censored]
up again, I'd say that Bill struck a nerve with you a while back with that
colostomy bag comment. Heh.