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  1. My God! My universe is starting to fall apart! Where the f*** is Tom
    Sherman? He has left ARBR and I have not been able to find him on any of the
    other newsgroups. I did a Google search and came up with nothing.

    Maybe some of you more sophisticated in the ways of the computer than I
    could find out for me if Tom Sherman is anywhere to be found. He was my
    principal adversary for over 3 years. I would log on to ARBR mainly in order
    to read him - and slam him. Now I am feeling quite bad since I may have
    caused him to leave. Surely he has got to know that I regarded him as the
    best of all my many enemies.

    My mind needs someone like him to contend with. There are no others who
    [censored] me off the way he did. I am thirsting for blood and only Tom Sherman
    can slake my blood lust. Damn it all to hell, I need someone to beat up on
    who is worthy of me!

    So I plead with all you denizens of these cycling newsgroup to find Tom
    Sherman for me. He is surely out there in cyber space somewhere spouting his
    usual noxious left wing liberal screwball nonsense.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  2. Ed,

    A very telling confession. Do print a copy for your therapist ... Jim
    McNamara

  3. <snip ED-[censored] and ED-[censored] encouragement>

    I was hoping this would just die but nooooooo, you had to go and feed
    the troll.

    D'ohBoy the Mediocre

  4. "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS - NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE MESSAGE TO
    WHICH HE IS RESPONDING!

    Quoted message said:

    Ed,

    A very telling confession. Do print a copy for your therapist ... Jim
    McNamara

    So, you don't know where Tom Sherman is either?

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  5. Edward Dolan said:

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS - NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE MESSAGE TO
    WHICH HE IS RESPONDING!

    Quoted message said:

    Ed,

    A very telling confession. Do print a copy for your therapist ... Jim
    McNamara

    So, you don't know where Tom Sherman is either?

    Unlike you, I lament not for I couldn't care less.

    Jim McNamara

  6. "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Edward Dolan said:

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS - NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE MESSAGE
    TO
    WHICH HE IS RESPONDING!

    Quoted message said:

    Ed,

    A very telling confession. Do print a copy for your therapist ... Jim
    McNamara

    So, you don't know where Tom Sherman is either?

    Unlike you, I lament not for I couldn't care less.

    You were never much of a poster to ARBR as far as I can tell, other than
    your sporadic personal vendettas. Tom Sherman was the mainstay of this
    entire newsgroup. He was ever helpful to newbies and knew more about
    recumbents than any other person I ever encountered on any newsgroup.

    I knew it was just a matter of time before he would leave as there were just
    so many idiots and scoundrels infecting ARBR. The fact is that he was too
    good for us. He was wrongheaded about almost everything outside of
    recumbents, but that is why I was here - to counteract act him. But
    frankly, I miss him. He had not only intelligence, but wit too. He was a
    kindred sprit and was very, very good for ARBR. But most important of all,
    he was a worthy adversary for me. We were both intellectuals who knew what
    words were worth. I miss him more than you would think possible.

    Tom Sherman and I had the best arguments ever about the Iraq War. I think
    that particular thread may be the longest in Usenet history. It started off
    rather quietly but it just built and built until it took of over the entire
    universe. I don't know about you, but I live for moments like that.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  7. Surbiton? Atlanta? Connecticutt?

  8. "G.T." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    [newsgroups restored]

    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    I knew it was just a matter of time before he would leave as there were
    just so many idiots and scoundrels infecting ARBR.

    Clearly, and you must be the leader of the scoundrels.

    My only sin was that I tried to save the newsgroup from the depredations of
    the criminal vandal troll. You have to fight fire with fire and so things
    did get kind of rough I must admit. But the one thing that amazed me more
    than anything else was the cowardice of almost all the members of ARBR. That
    is why to this day I have a fair amount of contempt for the group, and
    indeed for all newsgroups.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The fact is that he was too good for us. He was wrongheaded about almost
    everything outside of recumbents, but that is why I was here - to
    counteract act him. But frankly, I miss him. He had not only
    intelligence, but wit too. He was a kindred sprit and was very, very good
    for ARBR. But most important of all, he was a worthy adversary for me. We
    were both intellectuals who knew what words were worth. I miss him more
    than you would think possible.

    Tom Sherman and I had the best arguments ever about the Iraq War. I think
    that particular thread may be the longest in Usenet history. It started
    off rather quietly but it just built and built until it took of over the
    entire universe. I don't know about you, but I live for moments like
    that.

    Wow, if you live for moments like that you must live one miserably boring
    life.

    If you would like to get an education on the Iraq War, go read that thread.
    You will be amazed and dumfounded!

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  9. Edward Dolan said:

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Edward Dolan said:

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS - NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE MESSAGE
    TO
    WHICH HE IS RESPONDING!

    I was responding to your very first post something which I am
    reasonably certain no one else was at all challenged to comprehend, so
    stop frothing at the mouth.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    > Ed,
    >
    > A very telling confession. Do print a copy for your therapist ... Jim
    > McNamara

    So, you don't know where Tom Sherman is either?

    Unlike you, I lament not for I couldn't care less.

    You were never much of a poster to ARBR as far as I can tell, other than
    your sporadic personal vendettas.

    And just how many on-topic posts can you claim to have ever made??? As
    concerns personal vendettas, I have taken a total of 3 individuals to
    task, your beloved Tom Sherman being one. You were an active
    participant in that particular personal vendetta. Ed Gin was another
    and again you were an active participant in some (though not all) of
    that personal venedetta. That's 2 for 2 which cancel one another out
    since you were part and parcel of the action. As for the third ...
    well, you can't very well be expected to participate in that personal
    vendetta because wince you are the target. There you have it. I have
    focused my attention on three individuals and two (you and Gin) have
    been the focal point of many members on ARBR, so I find myself in good
    company. You, on the other hand, have taken on just about everyone on
    this newsgroup, Vanderman, for whom you have an obvious affection,
    being an exception. So let's see then. The score is me THREE and you
    a SIZEABLE INDEFINIT NUMBER that continues to grow. Do the math. The
    numbers are decidedly not in your favor, so you can cease your
    whining..

    Quoted message said:

    Tom Sherman was the mainstay of this
    entire newsgroup. He was ever helpful to newbies and knew more about
    recumbents than any other person I ever encountered on any newsgroup.

    This is pitiful. You sound as though you've lost a loved one. Stay
    tuned for the same old song to be sung if and when Vandeman pulls up
    stakes. Are same sex marriages legal in Minnesota?

    Quoted message said:

    I knew it was just a matter of time before he would leave as there were just
    so many idiots and scoundrels infecting ARBR. The fact is that he was too
    good for us. He was wrongheaded about almost everything outside of
    recumbents, but that is why I was here - to counteract act him.

    This is an unmoderated newsgroup. Who asked you to assume the role of
    moderator? If weren't deaf, dumb and blind, you would heed the
    requests of those who have asked you to cease and desist or pack it up
    and leave. You often insist that EVERYONE who posts on newsgroups, and
    particularly ARBR, are idiots, morons, and imbeciles. Which particular
    cretin category do you fall under??? Pick one!!! Since you are the
    most prolific poster on ARBR, it would logically follow that whatever
    category you chose, you would be the quintessential representative.

    Quoted message said:

    But
    frankly, I miss him. He had not only intelligence, but wit too. He was a
    kindred sprit

    I think you just insulted the man.

    Quoted message said:

    and was very, very good for ARBR. But most important of all,
    he was a worthy adversary for me. We were both intellectuals who knew what
    words were worth. I miss him more than you would think possible.

    My heart bleeds for you and your loss. Get a life.

    Quoted message said:

    Tom Sherman and I had the best arguments ever about the Iraq War.

    What do you not understand about this being a recumbent newsgroup?

    Quoted message said:

    I think
    that particular thread may be the longest in Usenet history. It started off
    rather quietly but it just built and built until it took of over the entire
    universe. I don't know about you, but I live for moments like that.

    What a telling remark. You live for moments like that because without
    ARBR and adversary there is no significant meaning in your life.
    Yours is a pathetic, shallow existence. You're one very sick puppy ...
    Ed.

    Jim McNamara

    Quoted message said:

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  10. Dolan (Van what's his face, et al.) performs an important role - motivating
    us to spend less time at the keyboard and more time behind the handlebars.

    Thanks Ed,

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Edward Dolan wrote:
    > "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS - NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE
    > MESSAGE
    > TO
    > WHICH HE IS RESPONDING!

    I was responding to your very first post something which I am
    reasonably certain no one else was at all challenged to comprehend, so
    stop frothing at the mouth.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    > > Ed,
    > >
    > > A very telling confession. Do print a copy for your therapist ...
    > > Jim
    > > McNamara
    >
    > So, you don't know where Tom Sherman is either?

    Unlike you, I lament not for I couldn't care less.

    You were never much of a poster to ARBR as far as I can tell, other than
    your sporadic personal vendettas.

    And just how many on-topic posts can you claim to have ever made??? As
    concerns personal vendettas, I have taken a total of 3 individuals to
    task, your beloved Tom Sherman being one. You were an active
    participant in that particular personal vendetta. Ed Gin was another
    and again you were an active participant in some (though not all) of
    that personal venedetta. That's 2 for 2 which cancel one another out
    since you were part and parcel of the action. As for the third ...
    well, you can't very well be expected to participate in that personal
    vendetta because wince you are the target. There you have it. I have
    focused my attention on three individuals and two (you and Gin) have
    been the focal point of many members on ARBR, so I find myself in good
    company. You, on the other hand, have taken on just about everyone on
    this newsgroup, Vanderman, for whom you have an obvious affection,
    being an exception. So let's see then. The score is me THREE and you
    a SIZEABLE INDEFINIT NUMBER that continues to grow. Do the math. The
    numbers are decidedly not in your favor, so you can cease your
    whining..

    Quoted message said:

    Tom Sherman was the mainstay of this
    entire newsgroup. He was ever helpful to newbies and knew more about
    recumbents than any other person I ever encountered on any newsgroup.

    This is pitiful. You sound as though you've lost a loved one. Stay
    tuned for the same old song to be sung if and when Vandeman pulls up
    stakes. Are same sex marriages legal in Minnesota?

    Quoted message said:

    I knew it was just a matter of time before he would leave as there were
    just
    so many idiots and scoundrels infecting ARBR. The fact is that he was too
    good for us. He was wrongheaded about almost everything outside of
    recumbents, but that is why I was here - to counteract act him.

    This is an unmoderated newsgroup. Who asked you to assume the role of
    moderator? If weren't deaf, dumb and blind, you would heed the
    requests of those who have asked you to cease and desist or pack it up
    and leave. You often insist that EVERYONE who posts on newsgroups, and
    particularly ARBR, are idiots, morons, and imbeciles. Which particular
    cretin category do you fall under??? Pick one!!! Since you are the
    most prolific poster on ARBR, it would logically follow that whatever
    category you chose, you would be the quintessential representative.

    Quoted message said:

    But
    frankly, I miss him. He had not only intelligence, but wit too. He was a
    kindred sprit

    I think you just insulted the man.

    Quoted message said:

    and was very, very good for ARBR. But most important of all,
    he was a worthy adversary for me. We were both intellectuals who knew
    what
    words were worth. I miss him more than you would think possible.

    My heart bleeds for you and your loss. Get a life.

    Quoted message said:

    Tom Sherman and I had the best arguments ever about the Iraq War.

    What do you not understand about this being a recumbent newsgroup?

    Quoted message said:

    I think
    that particular thread may be the longest in Usenet history. It started
    off
    rather quietly but it just built and built until it took of over the
    entire
    universe. I don't know about you, but I live for moments like that.

    What a telling remark. You live for moments like that because without
    ARBR and adversary there is no significant meaning in your life.
    Yours is a pathetic, shallow existence. You're one very sick puppy ...
    Ed.

    Jim McNamara

    Quoted message said:

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  11. "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Edward Dolan wrote:
    > "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS - NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE
    > MESSAGE
    > TO
    > WHICH HE IS RESPONDING!

    I was responding to your very first post something which I am
    reasonably certain no one else was at all challenged to comprehend, so
    stop frothing at the mouth.

    It doesn't matter if you are responding to a first post or a hundredth post.
    Top posting is NEVER OK! And you must always include some of the previous
    message to which you are replying for reasons of context if nothing else. No
    one, I repeat no one, will ever look up a previous post. That is why
    everything has to be there right in front of the reader at first glance in
    every post. Often I do not recall what I might have said in a previous post
    without looking it up - which I will never do. Screw it! This is Usenet, not
    a college symposium.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > Ed,
    > >
    > > A very telling confession. Do print a copy for your therapist ...
    > > Jim
    > > McNamara
    >
    > So, you don't know where Tom Sherman is either?

    Unlike you, I lament not for I couldn't care less.

    You were never much of a poster to ARBR as far as I can tell, other than
    your sporadic personal vendettas.

    And just how many on-topic posts can you claim to have ever made???

    What does it matter if the message is on-topic or off-topic. All that
    matters is that it be interesting.

    As

    Quoted message said:

    concerns personal vendettas, I have taken a total of 3 individuals to
    task, your beloved Tom Sherman being one. You were an active
    participant in that particular personal vendetta.

    I just chipped in briefly to keep you from self-destructing. Tom Sherman was
    making you look like a fool.

    Ed Gin was another

    Quoted message said:

    and again you were an active participant in some (though not all) of
    that personal venedetta. That's 2 for 2 which cancel one another out
    since you were part and parcel of the action.

    I only got in on the tail end of that one when Ed Gin started stepping on
    all of my posts with his insane drivel.

    As for the third ...

    Quoted message said:

    well, you can't very well be expected to participate in that personal
    vendetta because wince you are the target. There you have it.

    I do not take you any more seriously than did Tom Sherman and Ed Gin. That
    right there should tell you something.

    I have

    Quoted message said:

    focused my attention on three individuals and two (you and Gin) have
    been the focal point of many members on ARBR, so I find myself in good
    company. You, on the other hand, have taken on just about everyone on
    this newsgroup, Vanderman, for whom you have an obvious affection,
    being an exception. So let's see then. The score is me THREE and you
    a SIZEABLE INDEFINIT NUMBER that continues to grow. Do the math. The
    numbers are decidedly not in your favor, so you can cease your
    whining..

    Every post is sui generis with me. I do not react to persons, only to their
    messages. But I post generally to one and all based on the subject. You only
    post to carry on your personal vendettas. Are you crazy ... that is the
    question?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Tom Sherman was the mainstay of this
    entire newsgroup. He was ever helpful to newbies and knew more about
    recumbents than any other person I ever encountered on any newsgroup.

    This is pitiful. You sound as though you've lost a loved one. Stay
    tuned for the same old song to be sung if and when Vandeman pulls up
    stakes. Are same sex marriages legal in Minnesota?

    Everything I say about Tom Sherman is true. The only pitiful thing here is
    your jealousy of him - and me!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I knew it was just a matter of time before he would leave as there were
    just
    so many idiots and scoundrels infecting ARBR. The fact is that he was too
    good for us. He was wrongheaded about almost everything outside of
    recumbents, but that is why I was here - to counteract act him.

    This is an unmoderated newsgroup. Who asked you to assume the role of
    moderator? If weren't deaf, dumb and blind, you would heed the
    requests of those who have asked you to cease and desist or pack it up
    and leave. You often insist that EVERYONE who posts on newsgroups, and
    particularly ARBR, are idiots, morons, and imbeciles. Which particular
    cretin category do you fall under??? Pick one!!! Since you are the
    most prolific poster on ARBR, it would logically follow that whatever
    category you chose, you would be the quintessential representative.

    All newsgroups need someone who has the best interest of the group at heart.
    You only show up here for your vendettas. If a newsgroup just had your type,
    it would be still born. I will admit I have gotten rid of some dead wood
    from time to time, but I keep the group lively. Never a dull moment when Ed
    Dolan the Great is around.
    [...]

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  12. Edward Dolan said:

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > Edward Dolan wrote:
    >> "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email hidden]...
    >>
    > ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS - NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE
    >> MESSAGE
    >> TO
    >> WHICH HE IS RESPONDING!

    I was responding to your very first post something which I am
    reasonably certain no one else was at all challenged to comprehend, so
    stop frothing at the mouth.

    It doesn't matter if you are responding to a first post or a hundredth post.
    Top posting is NEVER OK!

    Opinion, stated as fact.

    Quoted message said:

    And you must always include some of the previous
    message to which you are replying for reasons of context if nothing else. No
    one, I repeat no one, will ever look up a previous post.

    Opinion, stated as fact.

    Quoted message said:

    That is why
    everything has to be there right in front of the reader at first glance in
    every post.

    Opinion, stated as fact.

    Quoted message said:

    Often I do not recall what I might have said in a previous post
    without looking it up - which I will never do. Screw it! This is Usenet, not
    a college symposium.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> > Ed,
    >> >
    >> > A very telling confession. Do print a copy for your therapist ...
    >> > Jim
    >> > McNamara
    >>
    >> So, you don't know where Tom Sherman is either?
    >
    > Unlike you, I lament not for I couldn't care less.

    You were never much of a poster to ARBR as far as I can tell, other than
    your sporadic personal vendettas.

    And just how many on-topic posts can you claim to have ever made???

    What does it matter if the message is on-topic or off-topic. All that
    matters is that it be interesting.

    Fiddle-faddle ... rubbish. If it mattered not, then there would be
    need for only a single newsgroup, whereas in fact there is an
    established hierarchy with many groups focused on a limited, specific
    topics. It is generally accepted that posters are expected to confine
    themselves to the groups intended subject matter. Off-topic posts are
    considered inappropriate. This is an elementary concept that you
    apparently do not comprehend or at least have no intention of abiding
    by.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As concerns personal vendettas, I have taken a total of 3 individuals to
    task, your beloved Tom Sherman being one. You were an active
    participant in that particular personal vendetta.

    I just chipped in briefly to keep you from self-destructing. Tom Sherman was
    making you look like a fool.

    How very suppportive of you, but there is no need to concern yourself.
    I don't self-desturct. As for the rest ... opinion stated as fact.

    Quoted message said:

    Ed Gin was another

    Quoted message said:

    and again you were an active participant in some (though not all) of
    that personal venedetta. That's 2 for 2 which cancel one another out
    since you were part and parcel of the action.

    I only got in on the tail end of that one when Ed Gin started stepping on
    all of my posts with his insane drivel.

    Baderdash ... twaddle. You had more issues with Ed GIn than the one
    stated and still do since you constantly refer to him as the criminal
    vandal troll that destroyed ARBR. Truth be told, the TROLL that has
    inflicted the most damage on this newsgroup is you.

    Quoted message said:

    As for the third ...

    Quoted message said:

    well, you can't very well be expected to participate in that personal
    vendetta since you are the target. There you have it.

    I do not take you any more seriously than did Tom Sherman and Ed Gin. That
    right there should tell you something.

    Opinion, stated as fact. Prattle ... gibberish. If I was not taken
    seriosulsy then why were you all unable to ingonre me and why were you
    allso driven to reply to everything that I have had to say. You're
    just so full [censored].

    Quoted message said:

    I have

    Quoted message said:

    focused my attention on three individuals and two (you and Gin) have
    been the focal point of many members on ARBR, so I find myself in good
    company. You, on the other hand, have taken on just about everyone on
    this newsgroup, Vanderman, for whom you have an obvious affection,
    being an exception. So let's see then. The score is me THREE and you
    a SIZEABLE INDEFINIT NUMBER that continues to grow. Do the math. The
    numbers are decidedly not in your favor, so you can cease your
    whining..

    Every post is sui generis with me. I do not react to persons, only to their
    messages. But I post generally to one and all based on the subject. You only
    post to carry on your personal vendettas. Are you crazy ... that is the
    question?

    More [censored]. In reacting to a message, you are reacting to its
    author, no matter what kind of a spin you vainly attempt to put on it.
    You cannot shroud yoursel in a Latin catch phrase to explain away your
    actions. The math speaks for itself.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Tom Sherman was the mainstay of this
    entire newsgroup. He was ever helpful to newbies and knew more about
    recumbents than any other person I ever encountered on any newsgroup.

    This is pitiful. You sound as though you've lost a loved one. Stay
    tuned for the same old song to be sung if and when Vandeman pulls up
    stakes. Are same sex marriages legal in Minnesota?

    Everything I say about Tom Sherman is true. The only pitiful thing here is
    your jealousy of him - and me!

    Opinion, stated as fact. You do that a lot, don't you? And you base
    your assumption on what, pray tell? Are you dellusional or did you
    just skip your meds today? Jealousy ... don't flatter youself Ed.
    Regardless, thanks for starting off my day with a bit amusement.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I knew it was just a matter of time before he would leave as there were
    just
    so many idiots and scoundrels infecting ARBR. The fact is that he was too
    good for us. He was wrongheaded about almost everything outside of
    recumbents, but that is why I was here - to counteract act him.

    This is an unmoderated newsgroup. Who asked you to assume the role of
    moderator? If weren't deaf, dumb and blind, you would heed the
    requests of those who have asked you to cease and desist or pack it up
    and leave. You often insist that EVERYONE who posts on newsgroups, and
    particularly ARBR, are idiots, morons, and imbeciles. Which particular
    cretin category do you fall under??? Pick one!!! Since you are the
    most prolific poster on ARBR, it would logically follow that whatever
    category you chose, you would be the quintessential representative.

    All newsgroups need someone who has the best interest of the group at heart.

    "Best interest fo the group at heart". Surely you jest. Time for a
    vote. Who of you consider Ed Dolan to be that person? Those who have
    kill-filed you have already voted.

    Quoted message said:

    You only show up here for your vendettas. If a newsgroup just had your type,
    it would be still born. I will admit I have gotten rid of some dead wood

    Opinion, stated as fact. Nothing could improve this newsgroup as much
    as your absence. Ask yourself why is it that so many have professed
    to have kill-filed you. Your kill-file statistics are your legacy.

    Quoted message said:

    from time to time, but I keep the group lively. Never a dull moment when Ed
    Dolan the Great is around.
    [...]

    Always a dullard moment when HEAD Dolan the GRATE is around.

    Jim McNamara

    Quoted message said:

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  13. "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Edward Dolan said:

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Edward Dolan wrote:
    > "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > >
    > > Edward Dolan wrote:
    > >> "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > >> news:[email hidden]...
    > >>
    >> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS - NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE
    > >> MESSAGE
    > >> TO
    > >> WHICH HE IS RESPONDING!

    I was responding to your very first post something which I am
    reasonably certain no one else was at all challenged to comprehend, so
    stop frothing at the mouth.

    It doesn't matter if you are responding to a first post or a hundredth
    post.
    Top posting is NEVER OK!

    Opinion, stated as fact.

    Nope, it is netiquette. You confuse email with Usenet as always. They are
    completely different because of the presence of outside readers.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And you must always include some of the previous
    message to which you are replying for reasons of context if nothing else.
    No
    one, I repeat no one, will ever look up a previous post.

    Opinion, stated as fact.

    Quoted message said:

    That is why
    everything has to be there right in front of the reader at first glance
    in
    every post.

    Opinion, stated as fact.

    Quoted message said:

    Often I do not recall what I might have said in a previous post
    without looking it up - which I will never do. Screw it! This is Usenet,
    not
    a college symposium.

    Quoted message said:

    > >> > Ed,
    > >> >
    > >> > A very telling confession. Do print a copy for your therapist
    > >> > ...
    > >> > Jim
    > >> > McNamara
    > >>
    > >> So, you don't know where Tom Sherman is either?
    > >
    > > Unlike you, I lament not for I couldn't care less.
    >
    > You were never much of a poster to ARBR as far as I can tell, other
    > than
    > your sporadic personal vendettas.

    And just how many on-topic posts can you claim to have ever made???

    What does it matter if the message is on-topic or off-topic. All that
    matters is that it be interesting.

    Fiddle-faddle ... rubbish. If it mattered not, then there would be
    need for only a single newsgroup, whereas in fact there is an
    established hierarchy with many groups focused on a limited, specific
    topics. It is generally accepted that posters are expected to confine
    themselves to the groups intended subject matter. Off-topic posts are
    considered inappropriate. This is an elementary concept that you
    apparently do not comprehend or at least have no intention of abiding
    by.

    As long as off-topic posts do not interfere with those that are on-topic it
    does not matter. Your good buddy Ed Gin knew how to interfere with every
    post no matter whether it was on-topic or off-topic. That is because he was
    a troll with his insane drivel. That is something Tom Sherman and I never
    were. Too bad you can't tell the difference.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As concerns personal vendettas, I have taken a total of 3 individuals
    to
    task, your beloved Tom Sherman being one. You were an active
    participant in that particular personal vendetta.

    I just chipped in briefly to keep you from self-destructing. Tom Sherman
    was
    making you look like a fool.

    How very suppportive of you, but there is no need to concern yourself.
    I don't self-desturct. As for the rest ... opinion stated as fact.

    Quoted message said:

    Ed Gin was another

    Quoted message said:

    and again you were an active participant in some (though not all) of
    that personal venedetta. That's 2 for 2 which cancel one another out
    since you were part and parcel of the action.

    I only got in on the tail end of that one when Ed Gin started stepping on
    all of my posts with his insane drivel.

    Baderdash ... twaddle. You had more issues with Ed GIn than the one
    stated and still do since you constantly refer to him as the criminal
    vandal troll that destroyed ARBR. Truth be told, the TROLL that has
    inflicted the most damage on this newsgroup is you.

    It was all about Ed Gin stepping on my posts and everyone else's with his
    insane drivel. Of course, one thing lead to another since he was clearly
    insane - and a criminal to boot. It is really pitiful that you do not know
    how to make distinctions that matter. All Ed Gin and I had in common were
    our first names.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As for the third ...

    Quoted message said:

    well, you can't very well be expected to participate in that personal
    vendetta since you are the target. There you have it.

    I do not take you any more seriously than did Tom Sherman and Ed Gin.
    That
    right there should tell you something.

    Opinion, stated as fact. Prattle ... gibberish. If I was not taken
    seriosulsy then why were you all unable to ingonre me and why were you
    allso driven to reply to everything that I have had to say. You're
    just so full [censored].

    Nope, I would occasionally take Tom Sherman seriously when he made some
    sense, but you are into nothing but vendettas. Are you Sicilian by chance?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have

    Quoted message said:

    focused my attention on three individuals and two (you and Gin) have
    been the focal point of many members on ARBR, so I find myself in good
    company. You, on the other hand, have taken on just about everyone on
    this newsgroup, Vanderman, for whom you have an obvious affection,
    being an exception. So let's see then. The score is me THREE and you
    a SIZEABLE INDEFINIT NUMBER that continues to grow. Do the math. The
    numbers are decidedly not in your favor, so you can cease your
    whining..

    Every post is sui generis with me. I do not react to persons, only to
    their
    messages. But I post generally to one and all based on the subject. You
    only
    post to carry on your personal vendettas. Are you crazy ... that is the
    question?

    More [censored]. In reacting to a message, you are reacting to its
    author, no matter what kind of a spin you vainly attempt to put on it.
    You cannot shroud yoursel in a Latin catch phrase to explain away your
    actions. The math speaks for itself.

    Again no, I am unlike you that way. I am an adult who has fully matured and
    I do not ever waste time on personal [censored]. I only respond to your posts by
    saying what I want to say, not necessarily what you want to hear. As far as
    I am concerned, you remain a perfect stranger to me and you most likely
    always will. I have absolutely no emotional investment in any of my posts,
    not matter how it may read to the contrary. That is what being an adult is
    all about.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Tom Sherman was the mainstay of this
    > entire newsgroup. He was ever helpful to newbies and knew more about
    > recumbents than any other person I ever encountered on any newsgroup.

    This is pitiful. You sound as though you've lost a loved one. Stay
    tuned for the same old song to be sung if and when Vandeman pulls up
    stakes. Are same sex marriages legal in Minnesota?

    Everything I say about Tom Sherman is true. The only pitiful thing here
    is
    your jealousy of him - and me!

    Opinion, stated as fact. You do that a lot, don't you? And you base
    your assumption on what, pray tell? Are you dellusional or did you
    just skip your meds today? Jealousy ... don't flatter youself Ed.
    Regardless, thanks for starting off my day with a bit amusement.

    You are the one who is making sexual allusions. Very dangerous territory for
    you to venture upon with me because of my Saintliness. You do not ever want
    to arouse Saint Edward the Great from His slumbers.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I knew it was just a matter of time before he would leave as there
    > were
    > just
    > so many idiots and scoundrels infecting ARBR. The fact is that he was
    > too
    > good for us. He was wrongheaded about almost everything outside of
    > recumbents, but that is why I was here - to counteract act him.

    This is an unmoderated newsgroup. Who asked you to assume the role of
    moderator? If weren't deaf, dumb and blind, you would heed the
    requests of those who have asked you to cease and desist or pack it up
    and leave. You often insist that EVERYONE who posts on newsgroups, and
    particularly ARBR, are idiots, morons, and imbeciles. Which particular
    cretin category do you fall under??? Pick one!!! Since you are the
    most prolific poster on ARBR, it would logically follow that whatever
    category you chose, you would be the quintessential representative.

    All newsgroups need someone who has the best interest of the group at
    heart.

    "Best interest fo the group at heart". Surely you jest. Time for a
    vote. Who of you consider Ed Dolan to be that person? Those who have
    kill-filed you have already voted.

    I am into housekeeping chores for the most part as there is never anything
    of any substance being said that interests me much.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You only show up here for your vendettas. If a newsgroup just had your
    type,
    it would be still born. I will admit I have gotten rid of some dead wood

    Opinion, stated as fact. Nothing could improve this newsgroup as much
    as your absence. Ask yourself why is it that so many have professed
    to have kill-filed you. Your kill-file statistics are your legacy.

    I know exactly the type who kill-file someone so Great as I. The world is
    full of of such dullards. They are nondescript pitfall souls who simply
    can't hold their own in a conversation. They want to have their say and
    cannot brook any opposition without getting all insulted. So far, you have
    at least a somewhat thicker skin that those types I must admit.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    from time to time, but I keep the group lively. Never a dull moment when
    Ed
    Dolan the Great is around.
    [...]

    Always a dullard moment when HEAD Dolan the GRATE is around.

    I write for the few who can appreciate me, not for the many who never have a
    clue. Most importantly, anyone but me ever notice how all these
    conversations that I have with Jim are all about me and never about him?
    That right there should tell you who is interesting and who is not!

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  14. Edward Dolan said:

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Edward Dolan said:

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > Edward Dolan wrote:
    >> "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email hidden]...
    >> >
    >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
    >> >> "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> >> news:[email hidden]...
    >> >>
    > >> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS - NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE
    >> >> MESSAGE
    >> >> TO
    >> >> WHICH HE IS RESPONDING!
    >
    > I was responding to your very first post something which I am
    > reasonably certain no one else was at all challenged to comprehend, so
    > stop frothing at the mouth.

    It doesn't matter if you are responding to a first post or a hundredth
    post.
    Top posting is NEVER OK!

    Opinion, stated as fact.

    Nope, it is netiquette. You confuse email with Usenet as always. They are
    completely different because of the presence of outside readers.

    Really???

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And you must always include some of the previous
    message to which you are replying for reasons of context if nothing else.
    No
    one, I repeat no one, will ever look up a previous post.

    Opinion, stated as fact.

    Quoted message said:

    That is why
    everything has to be there right in front of the reader at first glance
    in
    every post.

    Opinion, stated as fact.

    Quoted message said:

    Often I do not recall what I might have said in a previous post
    without looking it up - which I will never do. Screw it! This is Usenet,
    not
    a college symposium.

    >> >> > Ed,
    >> >> >
    >> >> > A very telling confession. Do print a copy for your therapist
    >> >> > ...
    >> >> > Jim
    >> >> > McNamara
    >> >>
    >> >> So, you don't know where Tom Sherman is either?
    >> >
    >> > Unlike you, I lament not for I couldn't care less.
    >>
    >> You were never much of a poster to ARBR as far as I can tell, other
    >> than
    >> your sporadic personal vendettas.
    >
    > And just how many on-topic posts can you claim to have ever made???

    What does it matter if the message is on-topic or off-topic. All that
    matters is that it be interesting.

    Fiddle-faddle ... rubbish. If it mattered not, then there would be
    need for only a single newsgroup, whereas in fact there is an
    established hierarchy with many groups focused on a limited, specific
    topics. It is generally accepted that posters are expected to confine
    themselves to the groups intended subject matter. Off-topic posts are
    considered inappropriate. This is an elementary concept that you
    apparently do not comprehend or at least have no intention of abiding
    by.

    As long as off-topic posts do not interfere with those that are on-topic it
    does not matter. Your good buddy Ed Gin knew how to interfere with every
    post no matter whether it was on-topic or off-topic. That is because he was
    a troll with his insane drivel. That is something Tom Sherman and I never
    were. Too bad you can't tell the difference.

    Now who is taking liberty with netiquette??? Off-topic by definition
    is just that ... off-topic no matter what kind of spin you vainly
    attemnpt to put on it. Don't confuse the issue by introducing
    irrelevant information regaridng the diferrences between Gin, you and
    Sherman that isn't even accurate. Tom Sherman might be accused of
    drivel, but a troll he was not. You and Gin both qualify as trolls who
    employed insane drivel. Too bad you can't tell the difference between
    on-topic, off-topic and what is appropriate in terms of netiquette. I
    refer you to my previous explanation. Perhaps if you read it a second
    time, it will sink in.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > As concerns personal vendettas, I have taken a total of 3 individuals
    > to
    > task, your beloved Tom Sherman being one. You were an active
    > participant in that particular personal vendetta.

    I just chipped in briefly to keep you from self-destructing. Tom Sherman
    was
    making you look like a fool.

    How very suppportive of you, but there is no need to concern yourself.
    I don't self-desturct. As for the rest ... opinion stated as fact.

    Quoted message said:

    Ed Gin was another
    > and again you were an active participant in some (though not all) of
    > that personal venedetta. That's 2 for 2 which cancel one another out
    > since you were part and parcel of the action.

    I only got in on the tail end of that one when Ed Gin started stepping on
    all of my posts with his insane drivel.

    Baderdash ... twaddle. You had more issues with Ed GIn than the one
    stated and still do since you constantly refer to him as the criminal
    vandal troll that destroyed ARBR. Truth be told, the TROLL that has
    inflicted the most damage on this newsgroup is you.

    It was all about Ed Gin stepping on my posts and everyone else's with his
    insane drivel. Of course, one thing lead to another since he was clearly
    insane - and a criminal to boot. It is really pitiful that you do not know
    how to make distinctions that matter. All Ed Gin and I had in common were
    our first names.

    I'll take that as an ammenement of your original contention. It is
    really pitiful that you have misconstrued that I am unable to make
    distinctions and it is even more pitiful that you for some unknown
    reason think that I made any statement that could be interpreted to
    mean that I thought you and Ed Gin had anything in common ... outside
    of being a trolls that spam newsgroupgs with gibberish of, that is.
    There now I've made a statement regarding some commonality regarding
    you two Eds.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As for the third ...
    > well, you can't very well be expected to participate in that personal
    > vendetta since you are the target. There you have it.

    I do not take you any more seriously than did Tom Sherman and Ed Gin.
    That
    right there should tell you something.

    Opinion, stated as fact. Prattle ... gibberish. If I was not taken
    seriosulsy then why were you all unable to ingonre me and why were you
    allso driven to reply to everything that I have had to say. You're
    just so full [censored].

    Nope, I would occasionally take Tom Sherman seriously when he made some
    sense, but you are into nothing but vendettas. Are you Sicilian by chance?

    How very noble of you. I'm sure that very admission alone will bring
    Tom back to ARBR. An Irishman asks if someone with a name of McNamara
    is Sicilian???

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have
    > focused my attention on three individuals and two (you and Gin) have
    > been the focal point of many members on ARBR, so I find myself in good
    > company. You, on the other hand, have taken on just about everyone on
    > this newsgroup, Vanderman, for whom you have an obvious affection,
    > being an exception. So let's see then. The score is me THREE and you
    > a SIZEABLE INDEFINIT NUMBER that continues to grow. Do the math. The
    > numbers are decidedly not in your favor, so you can cease your
    > whining..

    Every post is sui generis with me. I do not react to persons, only to
    their
    messages. But I post generally to one and all based on the subject. You
    only
    post to carry on your personal vendettas. Are you crazy ... that is the
    question?

    More [censored]. In reacting to a message, you are reacting to its
    author, no matter what kind of a spin you vainly attempt to put on it.
    You cannot shroud yoursel in a Latin catch phrase to explain away your
    actions. The math speaks for itself.

    Again no, I am unlike you that way. I am an adult who has fully matured and
    I do not ever waste time on personal [censored].

    This very statementis [censored].

    Quoted message said:

    I only respond to your posts by
    saying what I want to say, not necessarily what you want to hear.

    Your manner of response has absolutely no relevance to the issue at
    hand. The fact remains that in responding to a message, you are
    responding to the author of the message. In reacting tlo a message,
    you are reacting to th author regardless of the form you reaction take.
    This is so very obvious that it should not even have to be stated.

    Quoted message said:

    As far as
    I am concerned, you remain a perfect stranger to me and you most likely
    always will.

    A perfect stranger whom you have talke to on the phone, sho helped you
    rid yourself of a virus on you PD and whom you engaged in private
    emails.

    Quoted message said:

    I have absolutely no emotional investment in any of my posts,
    not matter how it may read to the contrary. That is what being an adult is
    all about.

    [censored]. No one who reads that will believe you. The very words you
    write betray you. Besides having no emotion investment in what youy
    write is not a sign of adulthood. If anything, taking responsibility
    for what you write is a sign of adulthood. Since you don not, what
    does that say of you maturity? Get real, Dolan.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> Tom Sherman was the mainstay of this
    >> entire newsgroup. He was ever helpful to newbies and knew more about
    >> recumbents than any other person I ever encountered on any newsgroup.
    >
    > This is pitiful. You sound as though you've lost a loved one. Stay
    > tuned for the same old song to be sung if and when Vandeman pulls up
    > stakes. Are same sex marriages legal in Minnesota?

    Everything I say about Tom Sherman is true. The only pitiful thing here
    is
    your jealousy of him - and me!

    Opinion, stated as fact. You do that a lot, don't you? And you base
    your assumption on what, pray tell? Are you dellusional or did you
    just skip your meds today? Jealousy ... don't flatter youself Ed.
    Regardless, thanks for starting off my day with a bit amusement.

    You are the one who is making sexual allusions. Very dangerous territory for
    you to venture upon with me because of my Saintliness. You do not ever want
    to arouse Saint Edward the Great from His slumbers.

    And this is in response to what above that allegedly has sexual
    connotations? I addressed jealousy ...nothing morr ... nothing less,
    but it is interesting that you chose the opperative word "arouse" in
    your reply.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> I knew it was just a matter of time before he would leave as there
    >> were
    >> just
    >> so many idiots and scoundrels infecting ARBR. The fact is that he was
    >> too
    >> good for us. He was wrongheaded about almost everything outside of
    >> recumbents, but that is why I was here - to counteract act him.
    >
    > This is an unmoderated newsgroup. Who asked you to assume the role of
    > moderator? If weren't deaf, dumb and blind, you would heed the
    > requests of those who have asked you to cease and desist or pack it up
    > and leave. You often insist that EVERYONE who posts on newsgroups, and
    > particularly ARBR, are idiots, morons, and imbeciles. Which particular
    > cretin category do you fall under??? Pick one!!! Since you are the
    > most prolific poster on ARBR, it would logically follow that whatever
    > category you chose, you would be the quintessential representative.

    All newsgroups need someone who has the best interest of the group at
    heart.

    "Best interest fo the group at heart". Surely you jest. Time for a
    vote. Who of you consider Ed Dolan to be that person? Those who have
    kill-filed you have already voted.

    I am into housekeeping chores for the most part as there is never anything
    of any substance being said that interests me much.

    No one has asked for you to play monderator on an unmoderated formum.
    Houskeepin according to whom. You alleged housekeeping consists of
    off-topic nonsense which itself is in need of housekeeping. If there
    is nothing of any substance being said that interests you, then begone
    troll ... take a hike on "your sacred trails"..

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You only show up here for your vendettas. If a newsgroup just had your
    type,
    it would be still born. I will admit I have gotten rid of some dead wood

    Opinion, stated as fact. Nothing could improve this newsgroup as much
    as your absence. Ask yourself why is it that so many have professed
    to have kill-filed you. Your kill-file statistics are your legacy.

    I know exactly the type who kill-file someone so Great as I. The world is
    full of of such dullards. They are nondescript pitfall souls who simply
    can't hold their own in a conversation. They want to have their say and
    cannot brook any opposition without getting all insulted. So far, you have
    at least a somewhat thicker skin that those types I must admit.

    They are those who have exercised som ecommon sense ... those who heard
    enough of your [censored] and just decided enough is enough. Others didn't
    kill-file you. They just left altogether. Others just ignore you.
    Some like myself taek you on from time to time to tell it like it is
    not that you are ever open minded enough to listen.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    from time to time, but I keep the group lively. Never a dull moment when
    Ed
    Dolan the Great is around.
    [...]

    Always a dullard moment when HEAD Dolan the GRATE is around.

    I write for the few who can appreciate me, not for the many who never have a
    clue. Most importantly, anyone but me ever notice how all these
    conversations that I have with Jim are all about me and never about him?
    That right there should tell you who is interesting and who is not!

    Few??? Vandeman doesn't qualify as a few. These conversations are not
    exclusively about you and even if they were, your conclusion does not
    follow from the premise. You like logical fallacies, dont' you?
    Frankly I don't understand what Vandeman admires in you. I don't think
    he could recognize intellect and writing ability if it slapped him
    upside his hard head.

    Jim McNamara

    Quoted message said:


    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  15. "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Jim McNamara has finally learned how to post correctly, but now he needs to
    learn how to edit. I will show him how if he cares to learn by following my
    example.
    [...]

    Edward Dolan said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > What does it matter if the message is on-topic or off-topic. All that
    > matters is that it be interesting.

    Fiddle-faddle ... rubbish. If it mattered not, then there would be
    need for only a single newsgroup, whereas in fact there is an
    established hierarchy with many groups focused on a limited, specific
    topics. It is generally accepted that posters are expected to confine
    themselves to the groups intended subject matter. Off-topic posts are
    considered inappropriate. This is an elementary concept that you
    apparently do not comprehend or at least have no intention of abiding
    by.

    As long as off-topic posts do not interfere with those that are on-topic
    it
    does not matter. Your good buddy Ed Gin knew how to interfere with every
    post no matter whether it was on-topic or off-topic. That is because he
    was
    a troll with his insane drivel. That is something Tom Sherman and I never
    were. Too bad you can't tell the difference.

    Now who is taking liberty with netiquette??? Off-topic by definition
    is just that ... off-topic no matter what kind of spin you vainly
    attemnpt to put on it. Don't confuse the issue by introducing
    irrelevant information regaridng the diferrences between Gin, you and
    Sherman that isn't even accurate. Tom Sherman might be accused of
    drivel, but a troll he was not. You and Gin both qualify as trolls who
    employed insane drivel. Too bad you can't tell the difference between
    on-topic, off-topic and what is appropriate in terms of netiquette. I
    refer you to my previous explanation. Perhaps if you read it a second
    time, it will sink in.

    I know exactly what is on-topic and what is off-topic. I choose to post
    mainly to off-topic threads and I will create off-topic subjects on an
    on-topic thread that has exhausted itself. I do this to provide some
    interest and some amusement to the poor earnest members of ARBR. However,
    much of what I do falls under the category of housekeeping which is really
    not off-topic. It is quite necessary to have someone around like me who will
    look after the best interests of the group. I am Mr. ARBR himself because of
    my general concern for the group.

    Both Tom Sherman and myself would get somewhat stupid when we were dealing
    with others who were stupid. It is a self defense mechanism. I would prefer
    to only engage in conversation with my fellow geniuses, but such are few and
    far between.

    Ed Gin was singular in every sense of the word. He was a troll who was also
    a vandal who was also a criminal. You, Tom and I were never any of those
    things. All three of us were mostly off-topic most of the time. As long as
    we did not interfere with on-topic posts, there was absolutely nothing wrong
    with being off-topic. Some of us just enjoy it for its' own sake. We can't
    all be dullards like most of the members. After all, there is only so much
    that can be said about recumbents - or any other kind of bicycles for that
    matter.
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It was all about Ed Gin stepping on my posts and everyone else's with his
    insane drivel. Of course, one thing lead to another since he was clearly
    insane - and a criminal to boot. It is really pitiful that you do not
    know
    how to make distinctions that matter. All Ed Gin and I had in common were
    our first names.

    I'll take that as an ammenement of your original contention. It is
    really pitiful that you have misconstrued that I am unable to make
    distinctions and it is even more pitiful that you for some unknown
    reason think that I made any statement that could be interpreted to
    mean that I thought you and Ed Gin had anything in common ... outside
    of being a trolls that spam newsgroupgs with gibberish of, that is.
    There now I've made a statement regarding some commonality regarding
    you two Eds.

    Yes, and you are wrong as usual. I am not a troll. I say outrageous things
    in order to get some kind of a response, but that is not the same thing as
    being a troll. Ed Gin was a troll, the only one ARBR ever had in its'
    history as far as I can tell. He destroyed ARBR without too much trouble
    because the vast majority of the members were cowards. It is why to this day
    I do not have any respect for newsgroups. You simply must have a moderator.
    Without one, you are forever on the verge of chaos.
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Nope, I would occasionally take Tom Sherman seriously when he made some
    sense, but you are into nothing but vendettas. Are you Sicilian by
    chance?

    How very noble of you. I'm sure that very admission alone will bring
    Tom back to ARBR. An Irishman asks if someone with a name of McNamara
    is Sicilian???

    I would still like to know what has happened to Tom Sherman! Anyone know
    anything at all about where he has gone?
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As far as
    I am concerned, you remain a perfect stranger to me and you most likely
    always will.

    A perfect stranger whom you have talke to on the phone, sho helped you
    rid yourself of a virus on you PD and whom you engaged in private
    emails.

    All of the above is no more than a cyber space connection, same as Usenet.
    In any kind of a face to face connection, it would be immediately apparent
    that we have nothing in common.
    [...]

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  16. Edward Dolan said:

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Jim McNamara has finally learned how to post correctly, but now he needs to
    learn how to edit. I will show him how if he cares to learn by following my
    example.

    I alwasy knew how. It is just that Google Groups is finally working
    correctly for a change ... nothing more .... nothing less. As for
    editing, I could care less and will never follow your example. I
    repeat ... I have not asked for your advice ... don't need your advice
    .... and will never heed your advice. Your opinion matters not.

    Quoted message said:

    [...]

    Edward Dolan said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> What does it matter if the message is on-topic or off-topic. All that
    >> matters is that it be interesting.
    >
    > Fiddle-faddle ... rubbish. If it mattered not, then there would be
    > need for only a single newsgroup, whereas in fact there is an
    > established hierarchy with many groups focused on a limited, specific
    > topics. It is generally accepted that posters are expected to confine
    > themselves to the groups intended subject matter. Off-topic posts are
    > considered inappropriate. This is an elementary concept that you
    > apparently do not comprehend or at least have no intention of abiding
    > by.

    As long as off-topic posts do not interfere with those that are on-topic
    it
    does not matter. Your good buddy Ed Gin knew how to interfere with every
    post no matter whether it was on-topic or off-topic. That is because he
    was
    a troll with his insane drivel. That is something Tom Sherman and I never
    were. Too bad you can't tell the difference.

    Now who is taking liberty with netiquette??? Off-topic by definition
    is just that ... off-topic no matter what kind of spin you vainly
    attemnpt to put on it. Don't confuse the issue by introducing
    irrelevant information regaridng the diferrences between Gin, you and
    Sherman that isn't even accurate. Tom Sherman might be accused of
    drivel, but a troll he was not. You and Gin both qualify as trolls who
    employed insane drivel. Too bad you can't tell the difference between
    on-topic, off-topic and what is appropriate in terms of netiquette. I
    refer you to my previous explanation. Perhaps if you read it a second
    time, it will sink in.

    I know exactly what is on-topic and what is off-topic. I choose to post
    mainly to off-topic threads and I will create off-topic subjects on an
    on-topic thread that has exhausted itself. I do this to provide some
    interest and some amusement to the poor earnest members of ARBR. However,
    much of what I do falls under the category of housekeeping which is really
    not off-topic. It is quite necessary to have someone around like me who will
    look after the best interests of the group. I am Mr. ARBR himself because of
    my general concern for the group.

    You know not the meaning of the word netiquette and houskeeping is
    merely a euphemistic rationalization for your off-topic banter. If you
    were genuinely concerned for ARBR, you'd take leave of the forum as
    many have requested you to. No one except Mike Vandeman appreciates
    your presence here.

    Quoted message said:

    Both Tom Sherman and myself would get somewhat stupid when we were dealing
    with others who were stupid. It is a self defense mechanism. I would prefer
    to only engage in conversation with my fellow geniuses, but such are few and
    far between.

    Ed Gin was singular in every sense of the word. He was a troll who was also
    a vandal who was also a criminal. You, Tom and I were never any of those
    things. All three of us were mostly off-topic most of the time. As long as
    we did not interfere with on-topic posts, there was absolutely nothing wrong
    with being off-topic. Some of us just enjoy it for its' own sake. We can't
    all be dullards like most of the members. After all, there is only so much
    that can be said about recumbents - or any other kind of bicycles for that
    matter.
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It was all about Ed Gin stepping on my posts and everyone else's with his
    insane drivel. Of course, one thing lead to another since he was clearly
    insane - and a criminal to boot. It is really pitiful that you do not
    know
    how to make distinctions that matter. All Ed Gin and I had in common were
    our first names.

    I'll take that as an ammendment of your original contention. It is
    really pitiful that you have misconstrued that I am unable to make
    distinctions and it is even more pitiful that you for some unknown
    reason think that I made any statement that could be interpreted to
    mean that I thought you and Ed Gin had anything in common ... outside
    of being a trolls that spam newsgroupgs with gibberish of, that is.
    There now I've made a statement regarding some commonality regarding
    you two Eds.

    Yes, and you are wrong as usual. I am not a troll. I say outrageous things
    in order to get some kind of a response, but that is not the same thing as
    being a troll.

    Oh but it is. A troll is someone who invades an established online
    forum, and posts inflammatory, rude or offensive messages designed
    intentionally to annoy and antagonize the existing members or disrupt
    the flow of discussion ... and, that's precisely what you do.

    Ed Gin was a troll, the only one ARBR ever had in its'

    Quoted message said:

    history as far as I can tell. He destroyed ARBR without too much trouble
    because the vast majority of the members were cowards. It is why to this day
    I do not have any respect for newsgroups. You simply must have a moderator.
    Without one, you are forever on the verge of chaos.
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Nope, I would occasionally take Tom Sherman seriously when he made some
    sense, but you are into nothing but vendettas. Are you Sicilian by
    chance?

    How very noble of you. I'm sure that very admission alone will bring
    Tom back to ARBR. An Irishman asks if someone with a name of McNamara
    is Sicilian???

    I would still like to know what has happened to Tom Sherman! Anyone know
    anything at all about where he has gone?
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As far as
    I am concerned, you remain a perfect stranger to me and you most likely
    always will.

    A perfect stranger whom you have talked to on the phone, who helped you
    rid yourself of a virus on your P and whom you engaged in private
    emails.

    All of the above is no more than a cyber space connection, same as Usenet.
    In any kind of a face to face connection, it would be immediately apparent
    that we have nothing in common.

    And, thank God for that.

    Jim McNamara

    Quoted message said:

    [...]

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  17. "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    [newsgroups trimmed]

    Quoted message said:

    Edward Dolan wrote:


    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > As long as off-topic posts do not interfere with those that are
    > on-topic
    > it
    > does not matter. Your good buddy Ed Gin knew how to interfere with
    > every
    > post no matter whether it was on-topic or off-topic. That is because
    > he
    > was
    > a troll with his insane drivel. That is something Tom Sherman and I
    > never
    > were. Too bad you can't tell the difference.

    Now who is taking liberty with netiquette??? Off-topic by definition
    is just that ... off-topic no matter what kind of spin you vainly
    attemnpt to put on it. Don't confuse the issue by introducing
    irrelevant information regaridng the diferrences between Gin, you and
    Sherman that isn't even accurate. Tom Sherman might be accused of
    drivel, but a troll he was not. You and Gin both qualify as trolls who
    employed insane drivel. Too bad you can't tell the difference between
    on-topic, off-topic and what is appropriate in terms of netiquette. I
    refer you to my previous explanation. Perhaps if you read it a second
    time, it will sink in.

    Nope, other newsgroups are just chock full of off-topic drivel. Your only
    complaint is that my drivel is better than your drivel.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I know exactly what is on-topic and what is off-topic. I choose to post
    mainly to off-topic threads and I will create off-topic subjects on an
    on-topic thread that has exhausted itself. I do this to provide some
    interest and some amusement to the poor earnest members of ARBR. However,
    much of what I do falls under the category of housekeeping which is
    really
    not off-topic. It is quite necessary to have someone around like me who
    will
    look after the best interests of the group. I am Mr. ARBR himself because
    of
    my general concern for the group.

    You know not the meaning of the word netiquette and houskeeping is
    merely a euphemistic rationalization for your off-topic banter. If you
    were genuinely concerned for ARBR, you'd take leave of the forum as
    many have requested you to. No one except Mike Vandeman appreciates
    your presence here.

    ARBR is now as dead as a door nail. If I weren't here, the undertakers might
    as well as be called in and put us all under the ground. Anyone but me
    notice how dead ARBR has become since NYC is no longer posting here?
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes, and you are wrong as usual. I am not a troll. I say outrageous
    things
    in order to get some kind of a response, but that is not the same thing
    as
    being a troll.

    Oh but it is. A troll is someone who invades an established online
    forum, and posts inflammatory, rude or offensive messages designed
    intentionally to annoy and antagonize the existing members or disrupt
    the flow of discussion ... and, that's precisely what you do.

    Jim is finally saying something of substance which deserves a serious reply.

    Newsgroups that stay too strictly on-topic are impossibly boring and
    tedious. There is only so much that can be said on any topic. All
    conversations tend to wander a bit and when they do I am here to jump in on
    it and provide some interest and amusement.

    Rudeness and offensiveness are in the eye of the beholder. All is [censored] for
    tat with me, but I do like to provoke - there can be no doubt about that.
    But I assume we are all adults here and can take it. Those who have such
    extreme sensitivities that they can't take a bit of contention should not be
    here in the first place.

    Jim, take a closer look at RBM. That group is composed of mostly nothing but
    idiots. They are all over the map on their topics. It is just chock full of
    mindless chit-chat. Certain members of that group are clubby types who NEVER
    say anything the least bit interesting or amusing. Very many other
    newsgroups are exactly like RBM. The Aussie one and the UK one for example.

    I just hate that kind of mindless chit-chat. It belongs on email, not
    newsgroups. I will always try to broaden my comments so as to make them
    interesting to the general reader. You should try to do the same yourself
    instead of pursing your various vendettas and stalking behavior. It does
    not become you at all. That is what kids do, not 60 year old men of the
    world.
    [...]

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  18. "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    [newsgroups trimmed]

    ARBR is now as dead as a door nail. If I weren't here, the undertakers
    might as well as be called in and put us all under the ground. Anyone but
    me notice how dead ARBR has become since NYC is no longer posting here?
    [...]

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

    If you weren't there ARBR may still be active.

  19. "di" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news😄pilg.6637$FR1.978@dukeread05...

    Quoted message said:


    "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    [newsgroups trimmed]

    ARBR is now as dead as a door nail. If I weren't here, the undertakers
    might as well as be called in and put us all under the ground. Anyone but
    me notice how dead ARBR has become since NYC is no longer posting here?
    [...]

    If you weren't there ARBR may still be active.

    ARBR was murdered by criminal vandal troll by the name of Ed Gin two winters
    ago. It has never recovered. If RBM were a much smaller group than it is,
    it would be very easy to murder this group also.

    A few posters like NYC is all it would take to revive ARBR, but it is a lot
    of work to post to newsgroups. Most are way too lazy to ever want to
    contribute anything.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  20. Edward Dolan said:

    "JimmyMac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    [newsgroups trimmed]

    Quoted message said:

    Edward Dolan wrote:


    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> As long as off-topic posts do not interfere with those that are
    >> on-topic
    >> it
    >> does not matter. Your good buddy Ed Gin knew how to interfere with
    >> every
    >> post no matter whether it was on-topic or off-topic. That is because
    >> he
    >> was
    >> a troll with his insane drivel. That is something Tom Sherman and I
    >> never
    >> were. Too bad you can't tell the difference.
    >
    > Now who is taking liberty with netiquette??? Off-topic by definition
    > is just that ... off-topic no matter what kind of spin you vainly
    > attemnpt to put on it. Don't confuse the issue by introducing
    > irrelevant information regaridng the diferrences between Gin, you and
    > Sherman that isn't even accurate. Tom Sherman might be accused of
    > drivel, but a troll he was not. You and Gin both qualify as trolls who
    > employed insane drivel. Too bad you can't tell the difference between
    > on-topic, off-topic and what is appropriate in terms of netiquette. I
    > refer you to my previous explanation. Perhaps if you read it a second
    > time, it will sink in.

    Nope, other newsgroups are just chock full of off-topic drivel. Your only
    complaint is that my drivel is better than your drivel.

    And I made this complaint where pray tell? Where is you evidence in
    support of this fabfication?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I know exactly what is on-topic and what is off-topic. I choose to post
    mainly to off-topic threads and I will create off-topic subjects on an
    on-topic thread that has exhausted itself. I do this to provide some
    interest and some amusement to the poor earnest members of ARBR. However,
    much of what I do falls under the category of housekeeping which is
    really
    not off-topic. It is quite necessary to have someone around like me who
    will
    look after the best interests of the group. I am Mr. ARBR himself because
    of
    my general concern for the group.

    You know not the meaning of the word netiquette and houskeeping is
    merely a euphemistic rationalization for your off-topic banter. If you
    were genuinely concerned for ARBR, you'd take leave of the forum as
    many have requested you to. No one except Mike Vandeman appreciates
    your presence here.

    ARBR is now as dead as a door nail. If I weren't here, the undertakers might
    as well as be called in and put us all under the ground. Anyone but me
    notice how dead ARBR has become since NYC is no longer posting here?
    [...]

    You succeeded in killing it. The job having been accomplished, you can
    now take leave of the place.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes, and you are wrong as usual. I am not a troll. I say outrageous
    things
    in order to get some kind of a response, but that is not the same thing
    as
    being a troll.

    Oh but it is. A troll is someone who invades an established online
    forum, and posts inflammatory, rude or offensive messages designed
    intentionally to annoy and antagonize the existing members or disrupt
    the flow of discussion ... and, that's precisely what you do.

    Jim is finally saying something of substance which deserves a serious reply.

    Newsgroups that stay too strictly on-topic are impossibly boring and
    tedious. There is only so much that can be said on any topic. All
    conversations tend to wander a bit and when they do I am here to jump in on
    it and provide some interest and amusement.

    Pure rationaliaation at it finest.

    Quoted message said:

    Rudeness and offensiveness are in the eye of the beholder. All is [censored] for
    tat with me, but I do like to provoke - there can be no doubt about that.
    But I assume we are all adults here and can take it. Those who have such
    extreme sensitivities that they can't take a bit of contention should not be
    here in the first place.

    Opinion stated as fact.

    Quoted message said:

    Jim, take a closer look at RBM. That group is composed of mostly nothing but
    idiots. They are all over the map on their topics. It is just chock full of
    mindless chit-chat. Certain members of that group are clubby types who NEVER
    say anything the least bit interesting or amusing. Very many other
    newsgroups are exactly like RBM. The Aussie one and the UK one for example.

    Forget the diversion. Other newsgroups are not the focal point of this
    discussion and as such are irrelevant.

    Quoted message said:

    I just hate that kind of mindless chit-chat. It belongs on email, not
    newsgroups.

    Then why must you engage in chit-chat on ARBR?. This is not
    alt.mindless.chit-chat. dominated.by.Ed.Dolan!

    Quoted message said:

    I will always try to broaden my comments so as to make them
    interesting to the general reader. You should try to do the same yourself
    instead of pursing your various vendettas and stalking behavior. It does
    not become you at all. That is what kids do, not 60 year old men of the
    world.
    [...]

    I repeat...i didn't ask for your advice...don't value your advice...
    will not heed your adivce.

    P.S. The definition of a troll fits you right nicely ... don't you
    think???

    Jim McNamara

    Quoted message said:


    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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