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  1. I am relatively new to cycling - 4 months - and I am training for a
    triathlon. Whether you are going uphill or down or on flats, when should
    you change gears? Does it depend on energy exertion level or cadence or
    both or something else?

    Many thanks!

  2. Paul said:

    I am relatively new to cycling - 4 months - and I am training for a
    triathlon. Whether you are going uphill or down or on flats, when should
    you change gears? Does it depend on energy exertion level or cadence or
    both or something else?

    Many thanks!

    It varies somewhat depending on the situation, but I usually change
    gears to maintain a high cadence. When I was just starting, I would
    focus on the effort required of my legs, and would shift up when I
    felt little to no resistance on the pedals, and shift down while
    ascending hills. Toughest thing was to down shift at the right time
    (not too early and not too late). I was never training for a
    triathlon, though, so you may need to employ different techniques.

  3. Paul said:

    I am relatively new to cycling - 4 months - and I am training for a
    triathlon. Whether you are going uphill or down or on flats, when should
    you change gears? Does it depend on energy exertion level or cadence or
    both or something else?

    Many thanks!

    Change gears when it feels like you are in the wrong gear. Or when the
    terrain in front of you indicates that you will soon be in the wrong
    gear. Cadence and thus gear selection is almost entirely a personal
    preference, so just find what is comfortable for you. If the gear
    feels too light, it is too light. If it feels too heavy it is, or you
    are tired! In other words, a gear selection is wrong only if it feels
    wrong.

    Have fun!

    Joseph

  4. <[email hidden]> wrote: (clip) a gear selection is wrong only
    if it feels wrong.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    A friend, who is bigger, stronger and younger than me, started riding
    off-road with me. Because his legs are powerful, he felt best in taller
    gears. I generally went to higher cadences, and had little trouble keeping
    up with him. He said that when he geard down, he didn't feel enough
    resistance to make him feel he was applying himself. Eventually, he learned
    to go to higher cadences, and I had trouble keeping up. So, what FEELS
    right may not always BE right.

    I suggest that you ride with someone better than you, and listen to their
    advice.

  5. On Jun 8, 12:16 pm, "Leo Lichtman" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote: (clip) a gear selection is wrong only

    if it feels wrong.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    A friend, who is bigger, stronger and younger than me, started riding
    off-road with me. Because his legs are powerful, he felt best in taller
    gears. I generally went to higher cadences, and had little trouble keeping
    up with him. He said that when he geard down, he didn't feel enough
    resistance to make him feel he was applying himself. Eventually, he learned
    to go to higher cadences, and I had trouble keeping up. So, what FEELS
    right may not always BE right.

    I suggest that you ride with someone better than you, and listen to their
    advice.

    But in fact different folks have different optimal cadences. There is
    no one right answer. So, I 'd agree with a middle postion. Go with
    what feels best based on some experience.

  6. "Leo Lichtman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    <[email hidden]> wrote: (clip) a gear selection is wrong
    only if it feels wrong.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    A friend, who is bigger, stronger and younger than me, started riding
    off-road with me. Because his legs are powerful, he felt best in taller
    gears. I generally went to higher cadences, and had little trouble
    keeping up with him. He said that when he geard down, he didn't feel
    enough resistance to make him feel he was applying himself. Eventually,
    he learned to go to higher cadences, and I had trouble keeping up. So,
    what FEELS right may not always BE right.

    I suggest that you ride with someone better than you, and listen to their
    advice.

    SOunds like good advice - thanks.

  7. Paul said:

    "Leo Lichtman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    <[email hidden]> wrote: (clip) a gear selection is wrong
    only if it feels wrong.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    A friend, who is bigger, stronger and younger than me, started riding
    off-road with me. Because his legs are powerful, he felt best in taller
    gears. I generally went to higher cadences, and had little trouble
    keeping up with him. He said that when he geard down, he didn't feel
    enough resistance to make him feel he was applying himself. Eventually,
    he learned to go to higher cadences, and I had trouble keeping up. So,
    what FEELS right may not always BE right.

    I suggest that you ride with someone better than you, and listen to their
    advice.

    SOunds like good advice - thanks.


    It has all been good advice so I'll just throw in mine, FWIW.

    I generally try to ride in as high a gear that still allows me to
    accelerate in that gear by increasing my cadence.

    Spinning out in top gear or slogging in the lowest gear are the two
    obvious exceptions. Otherwise, I want to feel that I'm always pulling
    chain but able to pull more instead of downshifting for every hump in
    the road, wind gust or immediate traffic situation.

    White knuckle bombing down hills on mini bikes or just sitting back
    feeling the breeze or tightly tucked stretching your envelope, or
    just enjoying and acknowledging the sweet return on your climbing
    investment, are also pleasurable ways to ride without pulling chain.

    Try 'em all.
    --
    zk

  8. Zoot Katz said:

    just enjoying and acknowledging the sweet return on your climbing
    investment, are also pleasurable ways to ride without pulling chain.

    Try 'em all.
    --
    zk

    That's my favorite 🙂

  9. Quoted message said:
    Paul said:

    I am relatively new to cycling - 4 months - and I am training for a
    triathlon. Whether you are going uphill or down or on flats, when should
    you change gears? Does it depend on energy exertion level or cadence or
    both or something else?

    Many thanks!

    Change gears when it feels like you are in the wrong gear. Or when the
    terrain in front of you indicates that you will soon be in the wrong
    gear. Cadence and thus gear selection is almost entirely a personal
    preference, so just find what is comfortable for you. If the gear
    feels too light, it is too light. If it feels too heavy it is, or you
    are tired! In other words, a gear selection is wrong only if it feels
    wrong.

    In general that is certainly true. The one thing you might think about,
    though, is that as a new cyclist your cadence may be lower than optimal.
    Many (not all) experienced cyclists maintain a cadence of around
    90-100rpm, perhaps a bit lower on hills. This is faster than would seem
    natural, so if your current cadence is more like 60rpm you might
    consider taking the advice above with one change: as a training
    exercise, stay in gears that feel a little low, and work to keep the
    cadence up.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    "What am I on? I'm on my bike, six hours a day, busting my ass.
    What are you on?"
    --Lance Armstrong

  10. "David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Paul said:

    I am relatively new to cycling - 4 months - and I am training for a
    triathlon. Whether you are going uphill or down or on flats, when
    should
    you change gears? Does it depend on energy exertion level or cadence or
    both or something else?

    Many thanks!

    Change gears when it feels like you are in the wrong gear. Or when the
    terrain in front of you indicates that you will soon be in the wrong
    gear. Cadence and thus gear selection is almost entirely a personal
    preference, so just find what is comfortable for you. If the gear
    feels too light, it is too light. If it feels too heavy it is, or you
    are tired! In other words, a gear selection is wrong only if it feels
    wrong.

    In general that is certainly true. The one thing you might think about,
    though, is that as a new cyclist your cadence may be lower than optimal.
    Many (not all) experienced cyclists maintain a cadence of around
    90-100rpm, perhaps a bit lower on hills. This is faster than would seem
    natural, so if your current cadence is more like 60rpm you might consider
    taking the advice above with one change: as a training exercise, stay in
    gears that feel a little low, and work to keep the cadence up.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    "What am I on? I'm on my bike, six hours a day, busting my ass.
    What are you on?"
    --Lance Armstrong

    Thanks - all good advice. BTW, I really like and tell a lot of people that
    quote from Lance Armstong.

    Thanks.

  11. i change gears whn my body tells me--i try to keep up a steady
    cadence--never trained for a trilathone

    hashed out my knees with a fast cadence--took 3 years to get over it--i no
    longer push my body other than swimming

    hth
    peter

    "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I am relatively new to cycling - 4 months - and I am training for a
    triathlon. Whether you are going uphill or down or on flats, when should
    you change gears? Does it depend on energy exertion level or cadence or
    both or something else?

    Many thanks!

  12. i ahve no idea, how old you are or what kind of shape you are in--but i
    hashed my knees using a high cadences

    make sure your read gear cassett has no drastic changes in gear teeth
    number--should be a stead slop from large to small

    hth
    peter

    "David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Paul said:

    I am relatively new to cycling - 4 months - and I am training for a
    triathlon. Whether you are going uphill or down or on flats, when
    should
    you change gears? Does it depend on energy exertion level or cadence or
    both or something else?

    Many thanks!

    Change gears when it feels like you are in the wrong gear. Or when the
    terrain in front of you indicates that you will soon be in the wrong
    gear. Cadence and thus gear selection is almost entirely a personal
    preference, so just find what is comfortable for you. If the gear
    feels too light, it is too light. If it feels too heavy it is, or you
    are tired! In other words, a gear selection is wrong only if it feels
    wrong.

    In general that is certainly true. The one thing you might think about,
    though, is that as a new cyclist your cadence may be lower than optimal.
    Many (not all) experienced cyclists maintain a cadence of around
    90-100rpm, perhaps a bit lower on hills. This is faster than would seem
    natural, so if your current cadence is more like 60rpm you might consider
    taking the advice above with one change: as a training exercise, stay in
    gears that feel a little low, and work to keep the cadence up.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    "What am I on? I'm on my bike, six hours a day, busting my ass.
    What are you on?"
    --Lance Armstrong

  13. seems like he is avoiding something--like marathon runners--the longer they
    run is a reflextion of some underlying psychiatric problem

    i would rather use the 6 hours to look for ass instead of busting it

    hth
    peter
    "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Jun 8, 4:30 pm, "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > I am relatively new to cycling - 4 months - and I am training for a
    > triathlon. Whether you are going uphill or down or on flats, when
    > should
    > you change gears? Does it depend on energy exertion level or cadence
    > or
    > both or something else?
    >
    > Many thanks!

    Change gears when it feels like you are in the wrong gear. Or when the
    terrain in front of you indicates that you will soon be in the wrong
    gear. Cadence and thus gear selection is almost entirely a personal
    preference, so just find what is comfortable for you. If the gear
    feels too light, it is too light. If it feels too heavy it is, or you
    are tired! In other words, a gear selection is wrong only if it feels
    wrong.

    In general that is certainly true. The one thing you might think about,
    though, is that as a new cyclist your cadence may be lower than optimal.
    Many (not all) experienced cyclists maintain a cadence of around
    90-100rpm, perhaps a bit lower on hills. This is faster than would seem
    natural, so if your current cadence is more like 60rpm you might consider
    taking the advice above with one change: as a training exercise, stay in
    gears that feel a little low, and work to keep the cadence up.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    "What am I on? I'm on my bike, six hours a day, busting my ass.
    What are you on?"
    --Lance Armstrong

    Thanks - all good advice. BTW, I really like and tell a lot of people
    that quote from Lance Armstong.

    Thanks.

  14. make sure your rear cassett has no major difference in gears --should be a
    constant angle--this way when you shift you do not have to alter your
    cadence--i suspect mine is the same as my heart beat --about 70 times a
    minute

    hth
    peter

    "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I am relatively new to cycling - 4 months - and I am training for a
    triathlon. Whether you are going uphill or down or on flats, when should
    you change gears? Does it depend on energy exertion level or cadence or
    both or something else?

    Many thanks!

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