when is it time to quit

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The shin is not feeling well. I am definitely paranoid,
and discerning soreness and injury is hard for me at this
stage. But I feel like I should take an extra day off
today. I'm going slowly, and I don't know what else to do.
I can't be a runner and only run 10-13 miles a week.
That's not going to do me much good. But I don't seem to
be holding up.

When you've rested twice as long as is normally
prescribed, you have orthotics, shoes are pretty new, what
else can be done?

The sad truth of it all is that *complete* recovery from
a bad injury, to the extent that you can return to
normal training can sometimes take a long time.
Fractures and soft tissue injuries may never even
completely go away, they leave scars though the scars
don't prevent you from training.

There's not much that I can tell you except that if you
think you should take more rest, then take more rest. In the
long run, a little more caution will shorten your recovery
time, not prolong it.

It feels like forever when you're actually there. Take a
look at the battlescars rec.running war stories thread for a
few dozen anecdotes of how many of us came back after being
sidelined by injury.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

On 18 Mar 2004 07:54:51 -0800, [email hidden] (Kerry Neilson)

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When you've rested twice as long as is normally
prescribed, you have orthotics, shoes are pretty new, what
else can be done?

OK, I'll assume you've been thoroughly checked by a good
orthopaedic doc and you don't have any underlying physical
problems/deficiencies. I'll also assume you've
participated in active, non-load bearing, sports such as
swimming and cycling throughout your rehabilitation period
AND that you perform the appropriate muscle strengthening
exercises AND that all your running is done on grass or
trails AND that you really are using a suitable
orthotic/shoe combination AND that you are on a suitable
diet and not carrying excess weight.

What else can be done, you ask? Keep the faith, girl, that's
what. If you've done everything right, things will
eventually fall into place. Maybe not in the time frame or
in the manner you've hoped, but fall they will.

Little story. I've just recovered from a horrid five-month
bout of ITBS that reduced me at one stage to daily ten-
minute jogs at ten-minute mile pace accompanied by the
sort of pain I'd associate with childbirth (were I so
equipped). From whence the ITBS came, I know not. Why it's
gone, I know not. Everything I tried, from stretches,
icing, rest, orthotics, massage, blah, blah, made
absolutely NO bloody difference. I just stuck with it,
running until it hurt too much. It was a triumph of faith
- that it would eventually get bored and go away - over
expectation - I'd always assumed that, one day, the
running gods would bite me on my legs.

What I'm trying to say is 'don't give up'. Keep doing what
you're doing, keep positive, keep seeing yourself as the
runner you know you'll be, and keep goin' out the door,
trying hard.

You could also find out what's behind 'I tan I epi tas' as
it's particularly appropriate to your situation. If you have
to go, go fighting.

Kerry Neilson said:

I took off seven months with a stress fracture in my right
tibia. That's plenty of time to recover. I got custom
orthotics from the sports medicine guy. He put me on a
return to running plan that was so conservative that I
didn't even break a sweat for a month. I started running 8
minutes every other day for a week. Then 12. Then 15
minutes two days one, one day off. Then 20. Keeping the
two days on, one day off routine, I've worked up from 20
to 23 and 26 minutes. I completed my first consecutive
days of 26 minutes on Mon and Tue. There was an occasional
extra day off in there once or twice, but I haven't run 3
days in a row in two years.

The shin is not feeling well. I am definitely paranoid,
and discerning soreness and injury is hard for me at this
stage. But I feel like I should take an extra day off
today. I'm going slowly, and I don't know what else to do.
I can't be a runner and only run 10-13 miles a week.
That's not going to do me much good. But I don't seem to
be holding up.

When you've rested twice as long as is normally
prescribed, you have orthotics, shoes are pretty new, what
else can be done?

Your running stresses the shin which may not be as strong as
an uninjured shin. Also, you may have a form that puts more
than usual stress on this shin, despite new orthotics. Your
rest allows it to regenerate stronger. The minimum recovery
period for a youth's muscle is 48 hours. Bones, tendons and
ligaments adapt more slowly. You may not be a youth in the
peak of health.

So, take a few weeks off to crosstrain, let the shin recover
fully before it fails, then do an easy week to test
progress. You might consider easy weeks in your buildups,
maybe, one per month. Then, the shin will get stronger
rather than weaker, and you can build to even greater
workloads. Continue to learn more about your own form in the
hopes you might fully understand the original causes.

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Quoted message said:

The shin is not feeling well. I am definitely paranoid,
and discerning soreness and injury is hard for me at this
stage. But I feel like I should take an extra day off
today. I'm going slowly, and

I had runner's knee that hobbled me for about 6 years.
That's the bad news. The good news is that I finally
overcame it through lots of stretching and strength work.
don't give up.

jack

You need me to massage the general area for you.

[email hidden] (Kerry Neilson) wrote in message
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I took off seven months with a stress fracture in my right
tibia. That's plenty of time to recover. I got custom
orthotics from the sports medicine guy. He put me on a
return to running plan that was so conservative that I
didn't even break a sweat for a month. I started running 8
minutes every other day for a week. Then 12. Then 15
minutes two days one, one day off. Then 20. Keeping the
two days on, one day off routine, I've worked up from 20
to 23 and 26 minutes. I completed my first consecutive
days of 26 minutes on Mon and Tue. There was an occasional
extra day off in there once or twice, but I haven't run 3
days in a row in two years.

The shin is not feeling well. I am definitely paranoid,
and discerning soreness and injury is hard for me at this
stage. But I feel like I should take an extra day off
today. I'm going slowly, and I don't know what else to do.
I can't be a runner and only run 10-13 miles a week.
That's not going to do me much good. But I don't seem to
be holding up.

When you've rested twice as long as is normally
prescribed, you have orthotics, shoes are pretty new, what
else can be done?

Quoted message said:

I took off seven months with a stress fracture in my
right tibia.

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The shin is not feeling well.

Have you had any other breaks or fractures of other bones
during your lifetime? If so, were they also very slow to
heal? Are you taking any supplements or adding any foods to
your diet to help the bones heal faster? (e.g., vitamin D,
calcium, milk, eggs, cheese, etc.)

Damn, a fracture or a break shouldn't be a permanently-
disabling thing; it should heal and then be actually
stronger than before, due to the extra bone material the
body applies to the "patch," shouldn't it?

I have to admit, I've had 2 fractures in my lifetime, and
they did heal miserably slowly (big toe, and a thumb). Even
so, don't give up hope. They DO eventually stop giving you
trouble, from my experience. If I fractured my big toe and
can run, so can you.

I assume you have made some adjustments to your running
style to reduce shin stress (e.g., shortening your stride)?

You probably would've overcome it in 3 without the
stretching.

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The shin is not feeling well. I am definitely paranoid,
and discerning soreness and injury is hard for me at
this stage. But I feel like I should take an extra day
off today. I'm going slowly, and

I had runner's knee that hobbled me for about 6 years.
That's the bad news. The good news is that I finally
overcame it through lots of stretching and strength work.
don't give up.

jack

Ok.

Well, I am just really confused. I took off 4 days, then
ran avery slow 30 minutes today. Everything seemed fine. I
think one thing I'm going to do right now is give up
running on consecutive days. That hurts quite a bit, but
I'm going to try to stick with that for a while. If I can
go every other day, hopefully going a bit longer once a
week, I guess I ll be happy.

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You need me to massage the general area for you.

Sorry, I meant "genital area"...