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  1. I've ordered some new wheels for my Dawes Audax; the OE MA3's with plain
    spokes are needing FAR too much fettling after the last four months
    commuting abuse so I've ordered some 105 hubs/butted ss spokes/36h open
    pro rims off Deeside Cycles. £122 the pair, which i think is reasonable?

    I am hoping (expecting!) they will be strong and durable, and remove the
    need for getting the spoke key out every weekend. I'm also hoping the
    horrid creaking noises will reduce dramatically, and that the braking
    will be smooth again rather than juddering the whole plot to a standstill.

    Am I destined for disappointment then or what?

    bfn,

    Tony B

  2. in message <[email hidden]>, Tony B

    (') said:

    I've ordered some new wheels for my Dawes Audax; the OE MA3's with
    plain spokes are needing FAR too much fettling after the last four
    months commuting abuse so I've ordered some 105 hubs/butted ss
    spokes/36h open pro rims off Deeside Cycles. £122 the pair, which i
    think is reasonable?

    I am hoping (expecting!) they will be strong and durable, and remove
    the need for getting the spoke key out every weekend. I'm also hoping
    the horrid creaking noises will reduce dramatically, and that the
    braking will be smooth again rather than juddering the whole plot to a
    standstill.

    Am I destined for disappointment then or what?

    Shouldn't think so. New wheels hand built of decent components should be
    reliable and last a long time.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    X-no-archive: No, I'm not *that* naive.

  3. Tony B said:

    I've ordered some new wheels for my Dawes Audax; the OE MA3's with plain
    spokes are needing FAR too much fettling after the last four months
    commuting abuse so I've ordered some 105 hubs/butted ss spokes/36h open
    pro rims off Deeside Cycles. £122 the pair, which i think is reasonable?

    I am hoping (expecting!) they will be strong and durable, and remove the
    need for getting the spoke key out every weekend. I'm also hoping the
    horrid creaking noises will reduce dramatically, and that the braking
    will be smooth again rather than juddering the whole plot to a standstill.

    Am I destined for disappointment then or what?

    Open Pros are pretty light for commuting. CXP33s might have been a
    better choice, if you like Mavic. Anyway, it depends more on the
    builder than the rim.

  4. Quoted message said:

    Open Pros are pretty light for commuting. CXP33s might have been a
    better choice, if you like Mavic. Anyway, it depends more on the
    builder than the rim.

    That's interesting comment; I was offered Open Pro's at Bicycle Doctor,
    so in my ignorance I though they'd be just the job. I had a look at
    Mavic's site hoping for some guidance but there seems to be none!

    I'll call Deeside tomorrow and consult, it's not too late to change -
    they won't be getting built up until after the holiday.

    As for liking Mavic, I have nothing to base an opinion on either way!
    Hence me hoping they'll be right for me.

    cheers,

    Tony B

  5. Tony B said:
    Quoted message said:

    Open Pros are pretty light for commuting. CXP33s might have been a
    better choice, if you like Mavic. Anyway, it depends more on the
    builder than the rim.

    That's interesting comment; I was offered Open Pro's at Bicycle Doctor,
    so in my ignorance I though they'd be just the job. I had a look at
    Mavic's site hoping for some guidance but there seems to be none!

    I'll call Deeside tomorrow and consult, it's not too late to change -
    they won't be getting built up until after the holiday.

    As for liking Mavic, I have nothing to base an opinion on either way!
    Hence me hoping they'll be right for me.

    cheers,

    Tony B


    Apart from my MTB which you know about, I got my first non Mavic rim
    this week. I got a DRC ST19 built with a SON 28 hub at Woodrups here in
    Leeds, 14g spokes. After 30 miles its just fine.

  6. Quoted message said:

    I've ordered some new wheels for my Dawes Audax; the OE MA3's with


    plain

    Quoted message said:

    spokes are needing FAR too much fettling after the last four months
    commuting abuse

    It would have been cheaper just to have the OE wheels brought up to the
    proper tension (or done it yourself), after which they would have
    stayed true indefinitely.

    99% of people who think wheels go out of true and need retruing all the
    time have never had properly built wheels.

    --
    Peter Headland

  7. Peter Headland said:

    99% of people who think wheels go out of true and need retruing all the
    time have never had properly built wheels.

    I appreciate that, but I had a big pothole incident a while back and
    decided I'd buy a new rear if and when it kept being a PIA truing it. I
    now think that time has come; the rear is now continually bent despite
    my best efforts to keep it on the straight and narrow. I suppose I could
    have bought a rear on it's own. Then again, new wheels are nice!


  8. Quoted message said:

    Apart from my MTB which you know about, I got my first non Mavic rim
    this week. I got a DRC ST19 built with a SON 28 hub at Woodrups here in
    Leeds, 14g spokes. After 30 miles its just fine.

    Withington Cycles offered me DRC rims, the ST19's to be excact! I was
    put off a bit by their hub prices (and lack of actual
    here's-what-you'll-be-paying price) despite calling the shop. I was
    directed to their website...

    Tony B

  9. Tony B said:

    That's interesting comment; I was offered Open Pro's at Bicycle Doctor,
    so in my ignorance I though they'd be just the job. I had a look at
    Mavic's site hoping for some guidance but there seems to be none!

    I'll call Deeside tomorrow and consult, it's not too late to change -
    they won't be getting built up until after the holiday.

    As for liking Mavic, I have nothing to base an opinion on either way!
    Hence me hoping they'll be right for me.

    CXP33 are a bit heavier (470g each) but the "aero" profile, while not
    having any real aerodynamic benefits, is very pothole-resistant. They
    look cool too :-)

  10. Tony B said:
    Quoted message said:

    Open Pros are pretty light for commuting. CXP33s might have been a
    better choice, if you like Mavic. Anyway, it depends more on the
    builder than the rim.

    That's interesting comment; I was offered Open Pro's at Bicycle
    Doctor, so in my ignorance I though they'd be just the job. I had a
    look at Mavic's site hoping for some guidance but there seems to be
    none!

    I'll call Deeside tomorrow and consult, it's not too late to change -
    they won't be getting built up until after the holiday.

    As for liking Mavic, I have nothing to base an opinion on either way!
    Hence me hoping they'll be right for me.

    Open Pros are strong enough for everything but potholes that are bad
    enough to send you flying over the handlebars. ...Slight exaggeration but
    not /that/ slight.

    However (to give you more chance with those potholes), I'd recommend A719
    or T520 if you using tyres wider than 28mm and don't mind the extra weight
    and expense. CXP33's should be nice otherwise but are a bit more pricey
    than Open Pros, and a touch heavier.

    36 spokes for the rear will be sensible in any case.

    ~PB

  11. I said:

    However (to give you more chance with those potholes), I'd recommend
    A719 or T520 if you using tyres wider than 28mm and don't mind the
    extra weight and expense.

    Correction: Not more expensive than OP, IIRC.

    ~PB

  12. Pete Biggs said:
    I said:

    However (to give you more chance with those potholes), I'd recommend
    A719 or T520 if you using tyres wider than 28mm and don't mind the
    extra weight and expense.

    Correction: Not more expensive than OP, IIRC.

    Butting in, sorry. My A719 got clouted by a car a week or so back
    (see thread [censored] 2). My LBS has tried to true it,but say there's a
    small ding in the rim, so I told them to get a new rim. Except their
    supplier (Madison) can't get the A719 until June.

    Options are A319 (?) single eyelet or OpenPro. I'm (ahem) a bit tough
    on my components and I'm not sure if the OpenPro will be up to the job
    (Audaxing and day trips)

    The other option is to get a complete wheel (A719 with Nexus dynamo
    hub) which is what was on there in the first place. I'm not paying
    for it, the plonker who drove into me is doing that, although I
    suspect he doesn't have any idea how much.

    Tim

  13. Tim Hall said:

    Butting in, sorry. My A719 got clouted by a car a week or so back
    (see thread [censored] 2). My LBS has tried to true it,but say there's a
    small ding in the rim, so I told them to get a new rim. Except their
    supplier (Madison) can't get the A719 until June.

    You or they could order one from St John Street Cycles or any other dealer
    that has one in stock.

    Quoted message said:

    Options are A319 (?) single eyelet or OpenPro. I'm (ahem) a bit tough
    on my components and I'm not sure if the OpenPro will be up to the job
    (Audaxing and day trips)

    The other option is to get a complete wheel (A719 with Nexus dynamo
    hub) which is what was on there in the first place. I'm not paying
    for it, the plonker who drove into me is doing that, although I
    suspect he doesn't have any idea how much.

    Probably the less public comment made about this, the better, for legal
    reasons ;-) (You're supposed to mitigate your expenses).

    ~PB

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