Wheels for an old Bianchi?

Hell And High Water said:

I have an older, but very nice Bianchi.

Shimano 7 Speed

Thinking about new wheels.

I'm assuming any front wheel will fit, is that correct?

And what do I need to look for in a rear wheel?

You need to post a little more info
- how old is the bike?
- what model
- what size wheels does it have (check tires sidewalls
if you don't know)
- what's wrong with the current wheels?
- freewheel or cassette? (age may help if you don't
know the diff)

With some more detail, someone here can figure out what you have
and/or what you need.

Hell And High Water said:

I have an older, but very nice Bianchi.

Shimano 7 Speed

Thinking about new wheels.

I'm assuming any front wheel will fit, is that correct?

And what do I need to look for in a rear wheel?

Thanks,

-Bob

Front spacing is 100 mm.
Rear may be 126 or 130 mm. Check for sure.
Steel Frame?
700C or 27" wheels?
There are some nice old Shimano Cassette hubs for 7 speed 126 mm spaced frames, but it is much more forward thinking to spread to 130 mm and use 130 mm hubs. If you want to still use 7 speed cassettes, you can with a 4.5 mm spacer.

Quoth Dave Ornee:

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Front spacing is 100 mm.
Rear may be 126 or 130 mm.  Check for sure.

Illustrated at: http://sheldonbrown.com/spacing

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Steel Frame?
700C or 27" wheels?
There are some nice old Shimano Cassette hubs for 7 speed 126 mm spaced
frames, but it is much more forward thinking to spread to 130 mm and use
130 mm hubs.

Dave's right. See: http://sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing for a how-
to.

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Hell And High Water said:

I have an older, but very nice Bianchi.
Shimano 7 Speed
Thinking about new wheels.
I'm assuming any front wheel will fit, is that correct?

No. 28" wheels (for police bikes) won't fit. They will hit the fork
and rear seat tube, most likely.

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And what do I need to look for in a rear wheel?
Thanks,
-Bob

Round ? Cassette or Freewheel Threads ? Accepts Tires ? You're not
giving us a lot to go on, you know. Why are you wanting new wheels?
Sick of driving the old ones?

What will the new wheels be for, touring, sport, or racing?
Do you want the bike to be more lively (faster acceleration)?
Do you want the bike to be more aerodynamic (less wind resistance/spokes)?

Like so many cyclists today, do you have $800 to spend on sunglasses,
shoes, and kit?? If so, then I'm sure $1500 is of no consequence when
it comes to wheels ... Or, are you interested in value for money, and
durability? You might have the perfect set of wheels in shimano 105
already, you know ... CyclingPlus in the UK recently rated some 30-odd
wheelsets and a conventional Shimano 105 wheelset from a local wheel
builder was awarded its highest rating, for its combination of
lightness, straightness, and value-for-money ...

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

On Feb 1, 11:26 am, Hell And High Water <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I have an older, but very nice Bianchi.

Shimano 7 Speed

Thinking about new wheels.

I'm assuming any front wheel will fit, is that correct?

And what do I need to look for in a rear wheel?

Thanks,

-Bob

Bob,

My husband has a 126 Mavic Open Pro rim laced to a Shimano 7-speed
freehub, lightly used, for sale for $100 plus shipping. Includes a
Dura Ace 12-28 seven speed freewheel. Located in Santa Clara, CA.
Email me for pictures, if you're interested.

Jenn

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Donald Gillies) said:

Hell And High Water said:

I have an older, but very nice Bianchi.
Shimano 7 Speed
Thinking about new wheels.
I'm assuming any front wheel will fit, is that correct?

No. 28" wheels (for police bikes) won't fit. They will hit the fork
and rear seat tube, most likely.

What is 28"? Thanks.

--
Michael Press

Michael Press said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Donald Gillies) said:

Hell And High Water said:

I have an older, but very nice Bianchi.
Shimano 7 Speed
Thinking about new wheels.
I'm assuming any front wheel will fit, is that correct?

No. 28" wheels (for police bikes) won't fit. They will hit the fork
and rear seat tube, most likely.

What is 28"? Thanks.

British series, 28 x 1-1/2 x 1-5/8 635mm

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

In article <[email hidden]>,

A Muzi said:

Michael Press said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Donald Gillies) said:

Hell And High Water <[email hidden]> writes:

> I have an older, but very nice Bianchi.
> Shimano 7 Speed
> Thinking about new wheels.
> I'm assuming any front wheel will fit, is that correct?
No. 28" wheels (for police bikes) won't fit. They will hit the fork
and rear seat tube, most likely.

What is 28"? Thanks.

British series, 28 x 1-1/2 x 1-5/8 635mm

This is so cool that Groucho Marx and Chico Marx could not do better.
For bicycle wheels

29" wheel < 27" wheel < 28" wheel.

We rule!

--
Michael Press

Michael Press said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

A Muzi said:

Michael Press said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Donald Gillies) wrote:

> Hell And High Water <[email hidden]> writes:
>
>> I have an older, but very nice Bianchi.
>> Shimano 7 Speed
>> Thinking about new wheels.
>> I'm assuming any front wheel will fit, is that correct?
> No. 28" wheels (for police bikes) won't fit. They will hit the fork
> and rear seat tube, most likely.
What is 28"? Thanks.

British series, 28 x 1-1/2 x 1-5/8 635mm

This is so cool that Groucho Marx and Chico Marx could not do better.
For bicycle wheels

29" wheel < 27" wheel < 28" wheel.

We rule!

However, there is an unfathomable convention in some European countries
to use "28-inch" to refer to the ISO 622-mm size (aka 700C).

My first act as Bicycle Emperor would be to ban the use of non ISO tire,
tube and rim size markings, which would put an end to this silliness.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
- A. Derleth

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> Hell And High Water <[email hidden]> writes:
>> I have an older, but very nice Bianchi.
>> Shimano 7 Speed
>> Thinking about new wheels.
>> I'm assuming any front wheel will fit, is that correct?

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[email hidden] (Donald Gillies) wrote:
> No. 28" wheels (for police bikes) won't fit. They will hit the fork
> and rear seat tube, most likely.

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Michael Press said:

What is 28"? Thanks.

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A Muzi said:

British series, 28 x 1-1/2 x 1-5/8 635mm

Michael Press said:

This is so cool that Groucho Marx and Chico Marx could not do better.
For bicycle wheels
29" wheel < 27" wheel < 28" wheel.
We rule!

The Germans call 700C "twenty eight inch" as do some older French
markings, 622mm

"HP" series twenty seven inch are 630mm and Roadster 28s are 635.

The loopy series is 700-52/54 a.k.a. 'twenty nine inch' which confuses
the hell out of people...

And speaking of anomalies, a Michelin 700x40 City has the same
edge-to-edge dimension as a Roadster 28 tire.

It all comes from the earliest tires which are described, like carriage
wheels, outside-to-outside. In order to make things fit, someone had to
establish a bead seat diameter (and many bright folks seemingly pulled
random numbers from thin air here; I give you 650b...)

The end of it is that with dozens of bead seat diameter standards and a
profusion of tire widths, nominal 'outside' numbers are just not all
that useful. Especially given things like 26x1-3/8 at 590mm & 597mm and
the older 26x1.375 at 611, all numerically 'same' to consumers without
mentioning 26" 559, 571, 584 etc etc all 'twenty six inch' tires!!
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

A Muzi said:

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Quoted message said:

>> Hell And High Water <[email hidden]> writes:
>>> I have an older, but very nice Bianchi.
>>> Shimano 7 Speed
>>> Thinking about new wheels.
>>> I'm assuming any front wheel will fit, is that correct?
>  [email hidden] (Donald Gillies) wrote:
>> No.  28" wheels (for police bikes) won't fit.  They will hit the fork
>> and rear seat tube, most likely.
Michael Press wrote:
> What is 28"? Thanks.

A Muzi said:

British series, 28 x 1-1/2 x 1-5/8 635mm

Michael Press said:

This is so cool that Groucho Marx and Chico Marx could not do better.
For bicycle wheels
29" wheel < 27" wheel < 28" wheel.
We rule!

The Germans call 700C "twenty eight inch" as  do some older French
markings, 622mm

"HP" series twenty seven inch are 630mm and Roadster 28s are 635.

The loopy series is 700-52/54 a.k.a. 'twenty nine inch' which confuses
the hell out of people...

And speaking of anomalies, a Michelin 700x40 City has the same
edge-to-edge dimension as a Roadster 28 tire.

It all comes from the earliest tires which are described, like carriage
wheels, outside-to-outside.  In order to make things fit, someone had to
establish a bead seat diameter (and many bright folks seemingly pulled
random numbers from thin air here; I give you 650b...)

The end of it is that with dozens of bead seat diameter standards and a
profusion of tire widths, nominal 'outside' numbers are just not all
that useful. Especially given things like 26x1-3/8 at 590mm & 597mm and
the older 26x1.375 at 611, all numerically 'same' to consumers without
mentioning 26" 559, 571, 584 etc etc all 'twenty six inch' tires!!
--
Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Dear Andrew,

Even worse, the practical differences are next to nothing. Next to
each other with inflated tires, the wheels are about the same size.

With trials motorcycles, the typical front 21 x 2.75" tire is almost
exactly the same height as the rear 18 x 4.00" tire. The inflation and
the wear on the knobs determines which is taller.

Here's an old example with horizontal lines at the axles and the tops
of the tires:
http://i16.tinypic.com/4pl4yhk.jpg

It would be amusing if someone with access to a few different bicycle
wheels and tires did the same thing to show the difference in the
bicycling world.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

A Muzi mused:

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>> Hell And High Water <[email hidden]> writes:
>>> I have an older, but very nice Bianchi.
>>> Shimano 7 Speed
>>> Thinking about new wheels.
>>> I'm assuming any front wheel will fit, is that correct?

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> [email hidden] (Donald Gillies) wrote:
>> No. 28" wheels (for police bikes) won't fit. They will hit the fork
>> and rear seat tube, most likely.

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Michael Press wrote:
> What is 28"? Thanks.

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A Muzi said:

British series, 28 x 1-1/2 x 1-5/8 635mm

Michael Press said:

This is so cool that Groucho Marx and Chico Marx could not do better.
For bicycle wheels
29" wheel < 27" wheel < 28" wheel. We rule!

The Germans call 700C "twenty eight inch" as do some older French
markings, 622mm

"HP" series twenty seven inch are 630mm and Roadster 28s are 635.

The loopy series is 700-52/54 a.k.a. 'twenty nine inch' which confuses
the hell out of people...

And speaking of anomalies, a Michelin 700x40 City has the same
edge-to-edge dimension as a Roadster 28 tire.

It all comes from the earliest tires which are described, like carriage
wheels, outside-to-outside. In order to make things fit, someone had to
establish a bead seat diameter (and many bright folks seemingly pulled
random numbers from thin air here; I give you 650b...)

The end of it is that with dozens of bead seat diameter standards and a
profusion of tire widths, nominal 'outside' numbers are just not all
that useful. Especially given things like 26x1-3/8 at 590mm & 597mm and
the older 26x1.375 at 611, all numerically 'same' to consumers without
mentioning 26" 559, 571, 584 etc etc all 'twenty six inch' tires!!

I have a worn out Conti GP that is marked 20x1-1/8 which would imply an
ISO 451-mm tire, but it was an excellent fit on an ISO 406-mm Sun CR-18 rim.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
- A. Derleth

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>>> Hell And High Water <[email hidden]> writes:
>>>> I have an older, but very nice Bianchi.
>>>> Shimano 7 Speed
>>>> Thinking about new wheels.
>>>> I'm assuming any front wheel will fit, is that correct?

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>> [email hidden] (Donald Gillies) wrote:
>>> No. 28" wheels (for police bikes) won't fit. They will hit the fork
>>> and rear seat tube, most likely.

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> Michael Press wrote:
>> What is 28"? Thanks.

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A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote:
> British series, 28 x 1-1/2 x 1-5/8 635mm

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Michael Press said:

This is so cool that Groucho Marx and Chico Marx could not do better.
For bicycle wheels
29" wheel < 27" wheel < 28" wheel. We rule!

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A Muzi blathered on and on:

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The Germans call 700C "twenty eight inch" as do some older French
markings, 622mm

-snip tires-

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Especially given things like 26x1-3/8 at 590mm & 597mm
and the older 26x1.375 at 611, all numerically 'same' to consumers
without mentioning 26" 559, 571, 584 etc etc all 'twenty six inch'
tires!!

Tom Sherman said:

I have a worn out Conti GP that is marked 20x1-1/8 which would imply an
ISO 451-mm tire, but it was an excellent fit on an ISO 406-mm Sun CR-18
rim.

As you mentioned earlier, everything save the ISO numbers oughta be removed.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971