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  1. A recently bought a 2004 KH 20, new. I have noticed that the wheel is
    not centered in the frame. One side of the tire is about 1 cm from the
    frame and the other side is about 1.5 cm from the frame. This
    difference is easily noticeable when you take a close look. I am not
    surprised that it is not center perfectly, but this large of a
    difference seems out of the ordinary.

    Does anyone have a guess as to why this might happen? Is it harmful?

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  2. Thanks, I will provide some more details when I get home to inspect it.

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  3. One of the bearings may have slipped sideways on the axle.

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  4. Check the unicycle by removing the wheel and flipping it around (make
    sure to flip it back after). If it still favors the same side of the
    frame, its the frame. If it favors the opposite side, it is the wheel.
    If it is your frame, it isn't an issue, one of your fork legs is
    slightly longer than the other. This usually is only a problem if the
    tire rubs. 2 of my frames (and several others I have seen) have this
    issue. If it is the wheel try reseating your tire, and if that doesn't
    work, you may need to true your wheel.

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  5. I had this same issue with my 24" Torker DX when it arrived new from
    UDC. I had to lean to one side as I rode to keep it going straight,
    but then I noticed the wheel (and tire) was closer to one side of the
    forks as you described. I added some shims to one side of the forks at
    the bearing seat, and this put the wheel/tire dead center after a few
    attempts. I cut the metal shims out of the side of a coke can, and
    trimmed these to fit loosely into the bearing seat before bolting the
    bearing cap on the other side.

    -Aaron

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  6. Thanks guys! After closer inspection last night I really believe it is
    the frame. I will flip the wheel around tonight as ObieOne has
    suggested to verify this.

    The Shims sound like a good idea. I will let you guys know how it
    turns out.

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  7. Mine happen on a good upd. I too put a shim in. I like the coke can
    shim idea. It doesn't take much shim with a 3"fat tire.
    Though I'm still dumbfounded why it actually happen.
    😕

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  8. Doug said:

    One of the bearings may have slipped sideways on the axle.

    That's not that uncommon, it happened to me.

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  9. critter said:

    ...Though I'm still dumbfounded why it actually happen.
    😕

    what happens is frame "leans" at the leg/crown joints. sabin bent a
    Yuni frame pretty bad trying to grind. He landed hard on the bearing
    housing which caused the frame to lean towards the grind side and tire
    to rub on the non-grind side.

    It seems like there is a lot of welding going on in the crown area of a
    kh frame. All the heat causes expansion if it dosen't contract equally
    the frame could be slightly off. but if your tire isn't rubbing, there
    is nothing to worry about.

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  10. Thanks for all the advise. I finally have some pictures to show the
    magnitude of the problem. As you can see, the tire is noticably off
    center but in no danger of rubbing. I tried to take these from an
    unbiased angle.

    The wheel is true. I flipped the wheel the other direction on the
    frame, as was suggested, and the wheel still favors the same side of
    the frame. So it must be a frame issue.

    Is this off center enough to worry about? I am thinking about trying
    shims.

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  11. I can't tell if the frame is bent from the photo. You should be able to
    roughly tell using a carpenter's square. If you're going to shim, you
    want to move the tire by half the difference of the distances from the
    left side of the tire to the frame and the right side of the tire to
    the frame. The shim needs to move the right leg up as viewed in the
    photo so should be placed on top of the right bearing. It should be
    roughly thick enough so that when multiplied by the ratio of the wheel
    radius to the center bearing spacing you get a value equal to half the
    difference of the distances you measured. Then iterate from there.

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  12. I have the exact same wheel as you and mine does the same thing...But to
    the other side...I just dished the wheel so that its centered in the
    frame...But i dont recomend it. Id say you should try some pop can
    shims.

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  13. my kh4 dosen't meet the bearings of the kh4 hub evenly 🙄 , and
    neither does sabin's. looks like you might have the same issue. loosen
    the bearing housings, and re-clamp with the frame in a more centered
    position.

    to answer your question, no, it is not off centered enough to worry
    about. riding it like that wont do any damage to the uni, it's just
    cosmetic.

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  14. However, it is not "just cosmetic" if it requires the rider to lean to
    one side to compensate as I found to be true in my case. Centering the
    tire fixed the "lean" issue as well. Maybe I'm just more sensitive to
    this kind of thing. :>

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  15. I have the same frame and the same "problem." Mine is about as bad as
    yours. You can shim one leg with slivers off a soda can but its more a
    cosmetic thing than a performance thing IMHO.

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