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  1. "Chalo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Chris B. [email protected] said:


    The immense blind brand loyalty shown towards Mavic is


    remarkable.

    Quoted message said:


    Before getting pimped to Adidas Salomon, Mavic made good,


    non-gimmicky

    Quoted message said:

    rims which were consistently among the roundest and flattest I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    ever seen. However, it seems that manufacturing a consistently


    good

    Quoted message said:

    product is not enough when you are expected to increase revenue


    at a

    Quoted message said:

    contiuously accelerating rate forever. To undertake that, you


    need

    Quoted message said:

    goofy marketing-driven [censored]! Voilá, the new improved


    Mavic.

    Quoted message said:


    It's not too far-fetched to attribute a good share of Mavic's


    business

    Quoted message said:

    to buyers' purchasing habits acquired back when their rims were
    excellent.

    I also would not be surprised if they quit marketing rims
    altogether in favor of complete wheels. I suspect that one day
    we will have a small, roll-your-own niche market for rims, made
    by Velocity and Sun and other small manufacturers. -- Jay
    Beattie.

  2. Jay Beattie said:

    "Chalo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8b4b7de4.040701-
    [email hidden]:8b4b7de4.0407011551.11819e5c@posti-
    ng.google.com...

    Quoted message said:
    Chris B. [email protected] said:


    The immense blind brand loyalty shown towards Mavic is


    remarkable.

    Quoted message said:


    Before getting pimped to Adidas Salomon, Mavic made good,


    non-gimmicky

    Quoted message said:

    rims which were consistently among the roundest and flattest I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    ever seen. However, it seems that manufacturing a consistently


    good

    Quoted message said:

    product is not enough when you are expected to increase revenue


    at a

    Quoted message said:

    contiuously accelerating rate forever. To undertake that, you


    need

    Quoted message said:

    goofy marketing-driven [censored]! Voilá, the new improved


    Mavic.

    Quoted message said:


    It's not too far-fetched to attribute a good share of Mavic's


    business

    Quoted message said:

    to buyers' purchasing habits acquired back when their rims were
    excellent.


    I also would not be surprised if they quit marketing rims altogether in
    favor of complete wheels. I suspect that one day we will have a small,
    roll-your-own niche market for rims, made by Velocity and Sun and other
    small manufacturers. -- Jay Beattie.

    Please add to you list Torelli, FIR, Ambrosio, DT Swiss, and maybe
    Rigida. It seems many shops don't want to deal with wheel building and
    shipping wheels is expensive... especially if you can't walk in for
    service and walk out with a rideable wheel. Ritchey and Bontrager have
    some Asian made rims. I have seen some good quality and some very bad
    quality from the samples I have seen from them. Mavic and their dealers
    are profit motivated as most capitalist are. Marketing seems to rule,
    while there is a general lack of persistence from the consumer for
    quality and durability.

    --

  3. Chalo said:
    Chris B. [email protected] said:

    The immense blind brand loyalty shown towards Mavic is remarkable.

    Before getting pimped to Adidas Salomon, Mavic made good, non-gimmicky
    rims which were consistently among the roundest and flattest I have
    ever seen. However, it seems that manufacturing a consistently good
    product is not enough when you are expected to increase revenue at a
    contiuously accelerating rate forever....

    Welcome to capitalism! 🙁

    --
    Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

  4. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Chris B. <[email protected]> wrote:
    The immense blind brand loyalty shown towards Mavic is remarkable.

    Quoted message said:
    Chalo said:

    Before getting pimped to Adidas Salomon, Mavic made good, non-gimmicky
    rims which were consistently among the roundest and flattest I have
    ever seen. However, it seems that manufacturing a consistently good
    product is not enough when you are expected to increase revenue at a
    contiuously accelerating rate forever....

    Tom Sherman said:

    Welcome to capitalism! 🙁

    Where you are free not to buy from Mavic (I don't) and where
    other manufacturers constantly innovate.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  5. A Muzi said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Chris B. <[email protected]> wrote:
    > The immense blind brand loyalty shown towards Mavic is remarkable.

    Quoted message said:
    Chalo said:

    Before getting pimped to Adidas Salomon, Mavic made good, non-gimmicky
    rims which were consistently among the roundest and flattest I have
    ever seen. However, it seems that manufacturing a consistently good
    product is not enough when you are expected to increase revenue at a
    contiuously accelerating rate forever....

    Tom Sherman said:

    Welcome to capitalism! 🙁

    Where you are free not to buy from Mavic (I don't) and where other
    manufacturers constantly innovate.

    My comment referred to the situation where it is not good enough to make
    a quality product (or provide a quality service), sell it at a fair
    price, and earn a reasonable profit from it. The demand is always there
    to grow bigger and increase revenue, regardless of the negative
    consequences.

    Judging by what I read here, we are actually in agreement for the most
    part: <http://www.yellowjersey.org/muzi.html>.

    --
    Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

  6. Tom Sherman said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Welcome to capitalism! 🙁

    Where you are free not to buy from Mavic (I don't) and where other
    manufacturers constantly innovate.

    My comment referred to the situation where it is not good enough to make
    a quality product (or provide a quality service), sell it at a fair
    price, and earn a reasonable profit from it. The demand is always there
    to grow bigger and increase revenue, regardless of the negative
    consequences.

    "Good." "Quality." "Fair." "Negative."

    We're foundering in the Sea of Arbitrariness, Cap'n!

    --
    Reply to mike1@@@usfamily.net sans two @@, or your reply won't reach me.

    Drug smugglers and gun-runners are heroes of American capitalism.
    -- Jeffrey Quick

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