Wheat gluten and pancakes

Can you get Carbquik in Belgium? It's a low-carb version of Bisquick and
is perfect for pancakes with no soy.

on Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:02:36 +0200, "Brian" <[email hidden]>

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Over the last couple of years, we have enjoyed pancakes made with Atkins
Bake Mix. However, with the imminent demise of Atkins, their products have
already disappeared from our local source here in Belgium.
Their list of ingredients includes wheat gluten, corn starch and milk
protein as well as some chemicals.
I have recently found a source of wheat gluten and I presume dried milk
powder would count as milk protein but what I really need is a pancake
recipe based on those ingredients or similar.
Can any of you recipe wizards help out?

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Bev

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Can you get Carbquik in Belgium? It's a low-carb version of Bisquick and
is perfect for pancakes with no soy.

Very doubtful. LC has not yet had any impact in Belgium.

Brian.

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"Brian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Over the last couple of years, we have enjoyed pancakes made with Atkins
Bake Mix. However, with the imminent demise of Atkins, their products
have
already disappeared from our local source here in Belgium.
Their list of ingredients includes wheat gluten, corn starch and milk
protein as well as some chemicals.
I have recently found a source of wheat gluten and I presume dried milk
powder would count as milk protein but what I really need is a pancake
recipe based on those ingredients or similar.
Can any of you recipe wizards help out?

Cream Cheese Pancakes
8 oz cream cheese, softened (6.4 carbs)
3 eggs (1.8 carbs)
2 T protein powder (.7, depends on brand) (can sub Atkins Bake Mix)
2 t imitation vanilla (.2 carbs)
3-4 packets of AS (I use Splenda) (3-4 grams)
Whip the cream cheese until smooth and creamy. Add the remaining
ingredients slowly. Put a little oil or butter on griddle and heat
it up, pour in the batter and fry up like pancakes! You want the
pancakes to be full of dry holes before you flip 'em. If they're not
ready to flip, they'll break apart. Top with butter and DaVinci
pancake syrup, or cream cheese and sugar free jam and enjoy!

I actually like these better than pancakes made with any baking mix.
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Thanks Sherry. We actually cannot get protein powder, imitation vanilla or
Splenda in Belgium. Still, I guess powdered milk and real vanilla essence
will do. We'll give it a try.
We get Splenda on occasional trips to the UK.
I like the bit about substituting Atkins Bake Mix.

Brian

"Sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Brian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Over the last couple of years, we have enjoyed pancakes made with Atkins
Bake Mix. However, with the imminent demise of Atkins, their products
have
already disappeared from our local source here in Belgium.
Their list of ingredients includes wheat gluten, corn starch and milk
protein as well as some chemicals.
I have recently found a source of wheat gluten and I presume dried milk
powder would count as milk protein but what I really need is a pancake
recipe based on those ingredients or similar.
Can any of you recipe wizards help out?

Cream Cheese Pancakes
8 oz cream cheese, softened (6.4 carbs)
3 eggs (1.8 carbs)
2 T protein powder (.7, depends on brand) (can sub Atkins Bake Mix)
2 t imitation vanilla (.2 carbs)
3-4 packets of AS (I use Splenda) (3-4 grams)
Whip the cream cheese until smooth and creamy. Add the remaining
ingredients slowly. Put a little oil or butter on griddle and heat
it up, pour in the batter and fry up like pancakes! You want the
pancakes to be full of dry holes before you flip 'em. If they're not
ready to flip, they'll break apart. Top with butter and DaVinci
pancake syrup, or cream cheese and sugar free jam and enjoy!

I actually like these better than pancakes made with any baking mix.
--

Thanks Sherry. We actually cannot get protein powder, imitation vanilla or
Splenda in Belgium. Still, I guess powdered milk and real vanilla essence
will do. We'll give it a try.
We get Splenda on occasional trips to the UK.
I like the bit about substituting Atkins Bake Mix.

Brian

"Brian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Over the last couple of years, we have enjoyed pancakes made with Atkins
Bake Mix. However, with the imminent demise of Atkins, their products have
already disappeared from our local source here in Belgium.
Their list of ingredients includes wheat gluten, corn starch and milk
protein as well as some chemicals.
I have recently found a source of wheat gluten and I presume dried milk
powder would count as milk protein but what I really need is a pancake
recipe based on those ingredients or similar.
Can any of you recipe wizards help out?

Cream Cheese Pancakes
8 oz cream cheese, softened (6.4 carbs)
3 eggs (1.8 carbs)
2 T protein powder (.7, depends on brand) (can sub Atkins Bake Mix)
2 t imitation vanilla (.2 carbs)
3-4 packets of AS (I use Splenda) (3-4 grams)
Whip the cream cheese until smooth and creamy. Add the remaining
ingredients slowly. Put a little oil or butter on griddle and heat
it up, pour in the batter and fry up like pancakes! You want the
pancakes to be full of dry holes before you flip 'em. If they're not
ready to flip, they'll break apart. Top with butter and DaVinci
pancake syrup, or cream cheese and sugar free jam and enjoy!

I actually like these better than pancakes made with any baking mix.
--
Sherry
364/310/195
http://lowcarb.owly.net

You might be able to order Carbquik online. It really is very good as a
Bisquick replacement.
Here's a recipe to make your own Atkins Bake Mix if you can get the
ingredients. It isn't exactly the same ingredients as the real thing but
it's supposed to work the same. Please note that I haven't tried this
myself. I don't like the soy-taste that Atkins Bake Mix adds to
everything. :-)

Atkins Bake Mix Clone Recipe

Ingredients
1 cup soy flour
2 cups soy protein isolate
2 tablespoon baking soda
1 teaspoon salt
artificial sweetener equal to 2 tablespoons sugar

Instructions
Sift all ingredients together. Store in an airtight container in a cool,
dark place. Use 1 cup for each 1 ½ cups all-purpose flour called for in
recipes.
Yield: about 3-1/4 cups
Carbohydrate count: 3 net carbs per 1/4 cup serving

BTW, you mentioned powdered milk in another message but one tablespoon is
9g net carbs so I wouldn't recommend it. :-)

on Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:08:16 +0200, "Brian" <[email hidden]>

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"Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Can you get Carbquik in Belgium? It's a low-carb version of Bisquick and
is perfect for pancakes with no soy.

Very doubtful. LC has not yet had any impact in Belgium.

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Bev

"Brian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thanks Sherry. We actually cannot get protein powder, imitation vanilla or
Splenda in Belgium. Still, I guess powdered milk and real vanilla essence
will do.

Have you looked in body building / sports shops for the protein powder?
That's where they live in the UK. Powdered milk is absolutely not a good
substitute. Whey, soy or milk protein is what you want, unsweetened - it
should have a very low carb count, unlike powdered milk.

Nicky.

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A1c 10.5/5.6/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/75/72Kg

Pancakes are not low carb.

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Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Brian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Over the last couple of years, we have enjoyed pancakes made with Atkins
Bake Mix. However, with the imminent demise of Atkins, their products have
already disappeared from our local source here in Belgium.
Their list of ingredients includes wheat gluten, corn starch and milk
protein as well as some chemicals.
I have recently found a source of wheat gluten and I presume dried milk
powder would count as milk protein but what I really need is a pancake
recipe based on those ingredients or similar.
Can any of you recipe wizards help out?

Thanks,

Brian

"Brian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Over the last couple of years, we have enjoyed pancakes made with Atkins
Bake Mix. However, with the imminent demise of Atkins, their products have
already disappeared from our local source here in Belgium.
Their list of ingredients includes wheat gluten, corn starch and milk
protein as well as some chemicals.
I have recently found a source of wheat gluten and I presume dried milk
powder would count as milk protein but what I really need is a pancake
recipe based on those ingredients or similar.
Can any of you recipe wizards help out?

Thanks,

Brian

the milk protein isn't just plain milk powder, it is whey protein isolate,
which is normally available from a whole foods grocer or a health food
store, usually near the protein shakes. Milk powder has a whole lot more
carbs than the protein powder!

"Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You might be able to order Carbquik online. It really is very good as a
Bisquick replacement.
Here's a recipe to make your own Atkins Bake Mix if you can get the
ingredients. It isn't exactly the same ingredients as the real thing but
it's supposed to work the same. Please note that I haven't tried this
myself. I don't like the soy-taste that Atkins Bake Mix adds to
everything. :-)

Atkins Bake Mix Clone Recipe

Ingredients
1 cup soy flour
2 cups soy protein isolate
2 tablespoon baking soda
1 teaspoon salt
artificial sweetener equal to 2 tablespoons sugar

Instructions
Sift all ingredients together. Store in an airtight container in a cool,
dark place. Use 1 cup for each 1 ½ cups all-purpose flour called for in
recipes.
Yield: about 3-1/4 cups
Carbohydrate count: 3 net carbs per 1/4 cup serving

BTW, you mentioned powdered milk in another message but one tablespoon is
9g net carbs so I wouldn't recommend it. :-)

Strange! Atkins Bake Mix has no soya in it! The first - and presumably
main - ingredient on the can is wheat gluten.
We also do not like soya and, although we can get soya flour we cannot get
the protein isolate.
As for Carbquick, I can try the UK LC mail order outlets. Frankly, with the
EC tariffs on US imports, it is realy not worth buying anything by mail
order from the US these days. You end up paying 2-3 times the already
inflated base price.
Thanks for the suggestions.

Brian

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"Brian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thanks Sherry. We actually cannot get protein powder, imitation vanilla
or Splenda in Belgium. Still, I guess powdered milk and real vanilla
essence will do.

Have you looked in body building / sports shops for the protein powder?
That's where they live in the UK. Powdered milk is absolutely not a good
substitute. Whey, soy or milk protein is what you want, unsweetened - it
should have a very low carb count, unlike powdered milk.

There are very very health food shops in our area and they have a bias
towars 'natural' and 'bio' products.
I have never come across a body building shop. Sports shops are not licensed
to sell material for consumption. We have a local shop that specialises in
high protein packaged products but they do not have protein isolate. I have
tried several of their breakfast products, soups, etc. and they are
universally revolting.
Unfortunately, in many respects, Belgium is still in the dark ages,
particularly with regard to foodstuffs licensing.

Brian

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Pancakes are not low carb.

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Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

Interesting that I have never seen one constructive or in any way helpful
post from you.
I suggest you seek psychological or psychiactric support.

Brian

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"Brian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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whey protein isolate,
is normally available from a whole foods grocer or a health food

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store, usually near the protein shakes. >

Not in this market!

Brian

It is helpful to know that pancakes are not low carb.

Interestingly enough, I notice that you never understand any constructive
and helpful information. I would advise you to get help with that, but it's
probably a genetic deficiency.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Brian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Pancakes are not low carb.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

Interesting that I have never seen one constructive or in any way helpful
post from you.
I suggest you seek psychological or psychiactric support.

Brian

It sounds like your Atkins Bake Mix is different than what we get in North
America. This is what we get:

http://www.enkueros.net/637480306010.html

As you can see, there's no wheat gluten. I only used it once and didn't
like the soy-taste it gave to the muffins I made with it.

on Sat, 27 Aug 2005 10:53:16 +0200, "Brian" <[email hidden]>

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Strange! Atkins Bake Mix has no soya in it! The first - and presumably
main - ingredient on the can is wheat gluten.
We also do not like soya and, although we can get soya flour we cannot get
the protein isolate.
As for Carbquick, I can try the UK LC mail order outlets. Frankly, with the
EC tariffs on US imports, it is realy not worth buying anything by mail
order from the US these days. You end up paying 2-3 times the already
inflated base price.
Thanks for the suggestions.

-----
Bev

Here are two recipes frpm TV shows for low carb pancakes. One is from
Low Carb and Loving It, the other Blaine's LC Kitchen

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_26549,00.html

http://fittv.discovery.com/fansites/blaine/recipes/breakfast/pancakes.html

Sadly, this is a problem many of us will face more often as more LC
products continue to disappear following the boom/bust. And it isn't
just the Atkins ones. Someone suggested using Carbquik. Well, if
you're using that, I'd make sure you have a good stock, because I think
it's likely that will meet it's demise too. I just picked up a couple
cans of the Atkins bake mix at half price. Atkins will continue in
business, but I don't know if this is one of the products they will
continue to produce. They stated that they intend to focus on the
shakes and bars.

"Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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It sounds like your Atkins Bake Mix is different than what we get in North
America. This is what we get:

http://www.enkueros.net/637480306010.html

As you can see, there's no wheat gluten. I only used it once and didn't
like the soy-taste it gave to the muffins I made with it.

Interesting! The can looks almost identical except that, under 'GREAT FOR
CONTROLLED CARBOHYDRATE BAKING', the UK version says 'POWDERED BAKE MIX FOR
MAKING PANCAKES, BREAD AND MUFFINS'.
The ingredients are 'Wheat gluten, corn starch, raising agent (sodium
bicarbonate, mono-calcium phosphate, sodium aluminium phosphate), milk
protein, salt.

I ran a Google search for 'Atkins Bake Mix ingredients' and found other
sites that say it is based on soya - one even saying that it is wheat and
gluten free. However, Atkins.com confirms the ingredients on the UK
version - except that they call the raising agent 'leavening'.
Perhaps there is more than one version but how do you tell the difference?

Brian

I guess the only way to tell the difference would be to check the
ingredients. There are other LC baking mixes but every one I've seen in
Canada has soy derivatives as the main ingredients. BTW, we also call them
leavening agents in Canada.
I suppose you could try to make your own version of the UK Atkins Bake Mix.
The corn starch would likely be 'resistant starch', though, and may be
difficult to find in Belgium. There are places to order it online in North
America. Your list of ingredients would look like this:

wheat gluten
resistant starch
baking powder
whey protein isolate or casein
salt

Of course, it would take some experimentation to get the proportions
correct but the main ingredients will be the first two with very small
amounts of the last three.
I have a recipe in one of my LC cookbooks for pancakes that uses crushed
pork rinds if you're interested.

on Sat, 27 Aug 2005 19:50:04 +0200, "Brian" <[email hidden]>

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Interesting! The can looks almost identical except that, under 'GREAT FOR
CONTROLLED CARBOHYDRATE BAKING', the UK version says 'POWDERED BAKE MIX FOR
MAKING PANCAKES, BREAD AND MUFFINS'.
The ingredients are 'Wheat gluten, corn starch, raising agent (sodium
bicarbonate, mono-calcium phosphate, sodium aluminium phosphate), milk
protein, salt.

I ran a Google search for 'Atkins Bake Mix ingredients' and found other
sites that say it is based on soya - one even saying that it is wheat and
gluten free. However, Atkins.com confirms the ingredients on the UK
version - except that they call the raising agent 'leavening'.
Perhaps there is more than one version but how do you tell the difference?

-----
Bev

"Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I guess the only way to tell the difference would be to check the
ingredients. There are other LC baking mixes but every one I've seen in
Canada has soy derivatives as the main ingredients. BTW, we also call
them
leavening agents in Canada.
I suppose you could try to make your own version of the UK Atkins Bake
Mix.
The corn starch would likely be 'resistant starch', though, and may be
difficult to find in Belgium.

We can get corn starch here.

There are places to order it online in North

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America.

Definitely not an economical approach due to EC tariffs.

Your list of ingredients would look like this:

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wheat gluten
resistant starch
baking powder
whey protein isolate or casein (That will be difficult!)
salt

Of course, it would take some experimentation to get the proportions
correct but the main ingredients will be the first two with very small
amounts of the last three.

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I have a recipe in one of my LC cookbooks for pancakes that uses crushed
pork rinds if you're interested.

Not really but thanks.

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Brian