What would you do?

In article <[email hidden]>, Bob Downie
<BobMail@downie-geo#n0spam#.co.uk> writes

Quoted message said:

Thanks all for your suggestions which have helped me crystallise some
ideas. The last thing I need is (another) hack bike so if I am going to
do anything with is it has to be a pukka job. How does the following
sound?

1. Dismantle bike and send frame-forks for proper re-spray.
2. Try to use old components where possible. There is nothing too awful
about the shifters, brakes, bars, stem, seat-post, saddle etc. That will
keep some costs down.
3. New rims, hubs, head-set, cranks, bottom bracket, chain, gears,
cabling, tyres etc.
4. Keep eye out for good-quality replacements of the old stuff at good
price (e.g. Ebay).

I haven't costed the above but I imagine that it should come in at
£350-£450 (more?).

A new Dawes Galaxy (the nearest modern equivalent I can find) is about
£700 so a re-build would seem worth it as long as I do not cost my time.

Anything obvious that I've missed?

Hi Bob,

I've just dug out my 20 year old 10 speed Dawes Windsor, which has
rekindled my interest in road bikes (it was basically a baby Galaxy when
new). I had considered a re-spray, although it doesn't really need it
and it has the original Dawes '80s two-tone paint job which I'd be
reluctant to lose.

I had considered relegating it to hack status, but I think it's quite a
bit better than that. I'm struggling to find a replacement other than a
Galaxy or similar (it's on 27*1.25" wheels and only tourers these days
seem to be able to take tyres of similar width). Although I feel like I
should treat myself to a new bike, and a new Galaxy would be a lot more
capable, I doubt I'd use all it's capabilities and since I want to keep
the old bike anyway, would it be worth it?

I had considered replacing the old Wienmann side pull brakes for less
sloppy more responsive modern ones and replacing the down tube shifters,
but having ridden it more, I'm tuning into these better. The one thing I
need to sort is to replace the rear wheel bolt-on spindle with a quick
release (probably with some new 700c wheels).

The one thing I think you may have missed, is the enjoyment of putting
it back together and then riding it again.

--
John

In article <[email hidden]>, John Halliwell
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I've just dug out my 20 year old 10 speed Dawes Windsor, which has
rekindled my interest in road bikes (it was basically a baby Galaxy when
new). I had considered a re-spray, although it doesn't really need it
and it has the original Dawes '80s two-tone paint job which I'd be
reluctant to lose.

I had considered relegating it to hack status, but I think it's quite a
bit better than that. I'm struggling to find a replacement other than a
Galaxy or similar (it's on 27*1.25" wheels and only tourers these days
seem to be able to take tyres of similar width). Although I feel like I
should treat myself to a new bike, and a new Galaxy would be a lot more
capable, I doubt I'd use all it's capabilities and since I want to keep
the old bike anyway, would it be worth it?

The Dawes Horizon is a reasonable entry-level tourer, and a definite
improvement on the Windsor.

Quoted message said:

I had considered replacing the old Wienmann side pull brakes for less
sloppy more responsive modern ones and replacing the down tube shifters,
but having ridden it more, I'm tuning into these better. The one thing I
need to sort is to replace the rear wheel bolt-on spindle with a quick
release (probably with some new 700c wheels).

Being a smaller diameter, 700c wheels will require a longer brake reach
- although your existing calipers may accomodate this they will have
reduced mechanical advantage and increased flex because of the change in
lever length. Dual-pivot calipers will probably improve braking
efficiency, but these days most of them seem to have recessed mounting
bolts so it might not be easy to find some that will fit.
Also the bottom bracket will be slightly lower, which may cause pedal
clearance problems when cornering unless you fit wider tyres than you
have ATM.

Rob Morley said:

In article <[email hidden]>, John Halliwell
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I had considered replacing the old Wienmann side pull brakes for less
sloppy more responsive modern ones and replacing the down tube
shifters, but having ridden it more, I'm tuning into these better.
The one thing I need to sort is to replace the rear wheel bolt-on
spindle with a quick release (probably with some new 700c wheels).

Being a smaller diameter, 700c wheels will require a longer brake
reach - although your existing calipers may accomodate this they will
have reduced mechanical advantage and increased flex because of the
change in lever length. Dual-pivot calipers will probably improve
braking efficiency, but these days most of them seem to have recessed
mounting bolts so it might not be easy to find some that will fit.

It'll be well worth enlargening the hole in the forks to take the recessed
nut. A front allen key brake could be used a rear nutted if it wasn't
possible/desirable to do the rear.

Quoted message said:

Also the bottom bracket will be slightly lower, which may cause pedal
clearance problems when cornering unless you fit wider tyres than you
have ATM.

Only 4mm lower. Unlikley to be a problem unless the BB is already badly
low.

~PB

John Kane said:

On May 5, 12:16 pm, Bob Downie <BobMail@downie-geo#n0spam#.co.uk>
wrote:
The occasional insult like the
bike racer in the airport line up calling my bike salé is worth it. 🙂

He called your bike salty? So he tasted it?

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