what type of bread is best?

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i'm eating artisan bread 7 grain. this seems to be the only healthy
bread in most large food stores. what is olive oil and is it any good.
what would i eat it with? what form does it come in? is cod liver oil
good for you?

Sprouted seed and grain breads from health food stores (look in
freezer).
Whole grain unleavened breads such as pita bread.
Whole grain sour dough breads.
Whole grain yeast leavened breads.

Look in your yellow pages for a European bakery; German, French,
Hungarian etc.
Call East Indian or Lebanese food shops or bakeries for pita.
Ask at the local health food stores for sprouted breads and maybe all
the others mentioned.

And if all else fails buy the highest percentage whole grain bread you
can find at your supermarket or bakery. How to tell? It will be heavy.
If it's not, it's likely only about 40-60 per cent whole grain, and
coloured too.

Zee

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i'm eating artisan bread 7 grain. this seems to be the only healthy
bread in most large food stores. what is olive oil and is it any good.
what would i eat it with? what form does it come in? is cod liver oil
good for you?

Sprouted seed and grain breads from health food stores (look in
freezer).
Whole grain unleavened breads such as pita bread.
Whole grain sour dough breads.
Whole grain yeast leavened breads.

Look in your yellow pages for a European bakery; German, French,
Hungarian etc.
Call East Indian or Lebanese food shops or bakeries for pita.
Ask at the local health food stores for sprouted breads and maybe all
the others mentioned.

And if all else fails buy the highest percentage whole grain bread you
can find at your supermarket or bakery. How to tell? It will be heavy.
If it's not, it's likely only about 40-60 per cent whole grain, and
coloured too.

Zee

I agree with that. The only way you can get better bread than that is
to bake fresh sprouted grain bread yourself daily, which will be even
more nutritious than those store bought breads.

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i'm eating artisan bread 7 grain. this seems to be the only healthy
bread in most large food stores. what is olive oil and is it any good.
what would i eat it with? what form does it come in? is cod liver oil
good for you?

Sprouted seed and grain breads from health food stores (look in
freezer).
Whole grain unleavened breads such as pita bread.
Whole grain sour dough breads.
Whole grain yeast leavened breads.

Look in your yellow pages for a European bakery; German, French,
Hungarian etc.
Call East Indian or Lebanese food shops or bakeries for pita.
Ask at the local health food stores for sprouted breads and maybe all
the others mentioned.

And if all else fails buy the highest percentage whole grain bread you
can find at your supermarket or bakery. How to tell? It will be heavy.
If it's not, it's likely only about 40-60 per cent whole grain, and
coloured too.

Zee

Thank you for the good answer. However, my research says that enriched
white bread is fine. you do lose fibre but that is not a big deal.

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i'm eating artisan bread 7 grain. this seems to be the only healthy
bread in most large food stores. what is olive oil and is it any good.
what would i eat it with? what form does it come in? is cod liver oil
good for you?

Sprouted seed and grain breads from health food stores (look in
freezer).
Whole grain unleavened breads such as pita bread.
Whole grain sour dough breads.
Whole grain yeast leavened breads.

Look in your yellow pages for a European bakery; German, French,
Hungarian etc.
Call East Indian or Lebanese food shops or bakeries for pita.
Ask at the local health food stores for sprouted breads and maybe all
the others mentioned.

And if all else fails buy the highest percentage whole grain bread you
can find at your supermarket or bakery. How to tell? It will be heavy.
If it's not, it's likely only about 40-60 per cent whole grain, and
coloured too.

Zee

Thank you for the good answer. However, my research says that enriched
white bread is fine. you do lose fibre but that is not a big deal.

Your "research" sucks big time.

And you lose more than "just fibre". You lose all nutritional value.
By that I mean all vitamins. By "enriching" it with a couple of cheap
vitamins doesn't do much to reverse the fact that it is nutritionally
bereft.

Once the bread is made bereft of vitamins, the body needs to get
vitamins to metabolize the bread(refined carbs). Where do you think it
gets it from? It gets it from you bodies existing vitamin stores and
thus depletes you of these vitamins. White "enriched" bread thus
becomes a negative nutritient. Meaning it depletes you more than it
nourishes you.

Grains are an incomplete source of vitamins in the first place. And to
refine it further and remove mpst vitamins from it is to create a
negative nutrient. You may want to work on your research skills.

TC

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i'm eating artisan bread 7 grain. this seems to be the only healthy
bread in most large food stores. what is olive oil and is it any good.
what would i eat it with? what form does it come in? is cod liver oil
good for you?

Sprouted seed and grain breads from health food stores (look in
freezer).
Whole grain unleavened breads such as pita bread.
Whole grain sour dough breads.
Whole grain yeast leavened breads.

Look in your yellow pages for a European bakery; German, French,
Hungarian etc.
Call East Indian or Lebanese food shops or bakeries for pita.
Ask at the local health food stores for sprouted breads and maybe all
the others mentioned.

And if all else fails buy the highest percentage whole grain bread you
can find at your supermarket or bakery. How to tell? It will be heavy.
If it's not, it's likely only about 40-60 per cent whole grain, and
coloured too.

Zee

I agree with that. The only way you can get better bread than that is
to bake fresh sprouted grain bread yourself daily, which will be even
more nutritious than those store bought breads.

The best bread is that which is baked from the absolute freshest whole
grain. And it will still be bereft of vitamins A, C and B12. It will
be low in most other B vitamins and the proteins provided will not
even be close to being complete.

TC

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> i'm eating artisan bread 7 grain. this seems to be the only healthy
> bread in most large food stores. what is olive oil and is it any good.
> what would i eat it with? what form does it come in? is cod liver oil
> good for you?

Sprouted seed and grain breads from health food stores (look in
freezer).
Whole grain unleavened breads such as pita bread.
Whole grain sour dough breads.
Whole grain yeast leavened breads.

Look in your yellow pages for a European bakery; German, French,
Hungarian etc.
Call East Indian or Lebanese food shops or bakeries for pita.
Ask at the local health food stores for sprouted breads and maybe all
the others mentioned.

And if all else fails buy the highest percentage whole grain bread you
can find at your supermarket or bakery. How to tell? It will be heavy.
If it's not, it's likely only about 40-60 per cent whole grain, and
coloured too.

Zee

Thank you for the good answer. However, my research says that enriched
white bread is fine. you do lose fibre but that is not a big deal.

Your "research" sucks big time.

And you lose more than "just fibre". You lose all nutritional value.
By that I mean all vitamins. By "enriching" it with a couple of cheap
vitamins doesn't do much to reverse the fact that it is nutritionally
bereft.

Once the bread is made bereft of vitamins, the body needs to get
vitamins to metabolize the bread(refined carbs). Where do you think it
gets it from? It gets it from you bodies existing vitamin stores and
thus depletes you of these vitamins. White "enriched" bread thus
becomes a negative nutritient. Meaning it depletes you more than it
nourishes you.

Grains are an incomplete source of vitamins in the first place. And to
refine it further and remove mpst vitamins from it is to create a
negative nutrient. You may want to work on your research skills.

TC

i have a funny feeling you are basing this on your intuition or
something. i will always defer to real scientists and they say white
bread is fine as long as you are getting fibre from other sources. i
have eaten at mcdonald's 3 times a day for 20 yrs and i am only
slightly overweight. i do no exercise. lighten up and enjoy life.

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> [email hidden] (severesocialanxiety) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > i'm eating artisan bread 7 grain. this seems to be the only healthy
> > bread in most large food stores. what is olive oil and is it any good.
> > what would i eat it with? what form does it come in? is cod liver oil
> > good for you?
>
>
> Sprouted seed and grain breads from health food stores (look in
> freezer).
> Whole grain unleavened breads such as pita bread.
> Whole grain sour dough breads.
> Whole grain yeast leavened breads.
>
> Look in your yellow pages for a European bakery; German, French,
> Hungarian etc.
> Call East Indian or Lebanese food shops or bakeries for pita.
> Ask at the local health food stores for sprouted breads and maybe all
> the others mentioned.
>
> And if all else fails buy the highest percentage whole grain bread you
> can find at your supermarket or bakery. How to tell? It will be heavy.
> If it's not, it's likely only about 40-60 per cent whole grain, and
> coloured too.
>
> Zee

Thank you for the good answer. However, my research says that enriched
white bread is fine. you do lose fibre but that is not a big deal.

Yes the fibre is a big deal. Your body needs fibre to 'eliminate'
regularly. Whole grains are a credible source of B vitamins (sorry TC
we disagree) and since we seldom eat bread alone when combined with
other nutritious foods it's even a good source of protein and other
nutrients. If you bake it yourself you can add some butter, olive oil
and whole milk to the dough which will help complete protein. Some
bread machines could handle the first stage of rising and then you
rise and shape to bake free form in your oven. I'd be very surprised
if after a slab of such bread smeared with cultured unsalted organic
butter and a slice of organic old cheddar from the local farmers
market you would ever go back to Wonder Bread.

Zee

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Your "research" sucks big time.

And you lose more than "just fibre". You lose all nutritional value.
By that I mean all vitamins. By "enriching" it with a couple of cheap
vitamins doesn't do much to reverse the fact that it is nutritionally
bereft.

Once the bread is made bereft of vitamins, the body needs to get
vitamins to metabolize the bread(refined carbs). Where do you think it
gets it from? It gets it from you bodies existing vitamin stores and
thus depletes you of these vitamins. White "enriched" bread thus
becomes a negative nutritient. Meaning it depletes you more than it
nourishes you.

Grains are an incomplete source of vitamins in the first place. And to
refine it further and remove mpst vitamins from it is to create a
negative nutrient. You may want to work on your research skills.

TC

i have a funny feeling you are basing this on your intuition or
something. i will always defer to real scientists and they say white
bread is fine as long as you are getting fibre from other sources. i
have eaten at mcdonald's 3 times a day for 20 yrs and i am only
slightly overweight. i do no exercise. lighten up and enjoy life.

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> [email hidden] (fresh~horses) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > [email hidden] (severesocialanxiety) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > i'm eating artisan bread 7 grain. this seems to be the only healthy
> > > bread in most large food stores. what is olive oil and is it any good.
> > > what would i eat it with? what form does it come in? is cod liver oil
> > > good for you?
> >
> >
> > Sprouted seed and grain breads from health food stores (look in
> > freezer).
> > Whole grain unleavened breads such as pita bread.
> > Whole grain sour dough breads.
> > Whole grain yeast leavened breads.
> >
> > Look in your yellow pages for a European bakery; German, French,
> > Hungarian etc.
> > Call East Indian or Lebanese food shops or bakeries for pita.
> > Ask at the local health food stores for sprouted breads and maybe all
> > the others mentioned.
> >
> > And if all else fails buy the highest percentage whole grain bread you
> > can find at your supermarket or bakery. How to tell? It will be heavy.
> > If it's not, it's likely only about 40-60 per cent whole grain, and
> > coloured too.
> >
> > Zee
>
>
> Thank you for the good answer. However, my research says that enriched
> white bread is fine. you do lose fibre but that is not a big deal.

Yes the fibre is a big deal. Your body needs fibre to 'eliminate'
regularly. Whole grains are a credible source of B vitamins (sorry TC
we disagree) and since we seldom eat bread alone when combined with
other nutritious foods it's even a good source of protein and other
nutrients. If you bake it yourself you can add some butter, olive oil
and whole milk to the dough which will help complete protein. Some
bread machines could handle the first stage of rising and then you
rise and shape to bake free form in your oven. I'd be very surprised
if after a slab of such bread smeared with cultured unsalted organic
butter and a slice of organic old cheddar from the local farmers
market you would ever go back to Wonder Bread.

Zee

i hate finding fibre in my bread . it is like finding a hair in my
food.
oh henry bars are probably one of the most nutritious foods around if
not for political correctness. i always carry tons of them in my car
as dessert. I hate mcdonald's deserts. the one thing i hate is my
puffy face. i'm taking up jogging.

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> [email hidden] (severesocialanxiety) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > i'm eating artisan bread 7 grain. this seems to be the only healthy
> > bread in most large food stores. what is olive oil and is it any good.
> > what would i eat it with? what form does it come in? is cod liver oil
> > good for you?
>
>
> Sprouted seed and grain breads from health food stores (look in
> freezer).
> Whole grain unleavened breads such as pita bread.
> Whole grain sour dough breads.
> Whole grain yeast leavened breads.
>
> Look in your yellow pages for a European bakery; German, French,
> Hungarian etc.
> Call East Indian or Lebanese food shops or bakeries for pita.
> Ask at the local health food stores for sprouted breads and maybe all
> the others mentioned.
>
> And if all else fails buy the highest percentage whole grain bread you
> can find at your supermarket or bakery. How to tell? It will be heavy.
> If it's not, it's likely only about 40-60 per cent whole grain, and
> coloured too.
>
> Zee

Thank you for the good answer. However, my research says that enriched
white bread is fine. you do lose fibre but that is not a big deal.

Your "research" sucks big time.

And you lose more than "just fibre". You lose all nutritional value.
By that I mean all vitamins. By "enriching" it with a couple of cheap
vitamins doesn't do much to reverse the fact that it is nutritionally
bereft.

Once the bread is made bereft of vitamins, the body needs to get
vitamins to metabolize the bread(refined carbs). Where do you think it
gets it from? It gets it from you bodies existing vitamin stores and
thus depletes you of these vitamins. White "enriched" bread thus
becomes a negative nutritient. Meaning it depletes you more than it
nourishes you.

Grains are an incomplete source of vitamins in the first place. And to
refine it further and remove mpst vitamins from it is to create a
negative nutrient. You may want to work on your research skills.

TC

i have a funny feeling you are basing this on your intuition or
something. i will always defer to real scientists and they say white
bread is fine as long as you are getting fibre from other sources. i
have eaten at mcdonald's 3 times a day for 20 yrs and i am only
slightly overweight. i do no exercise. lighten up and enjoy life.

http://www.moondragon.org/nutrition/foodguide/bread.html

http://nutrition.about.com/cs/dietanalysis/l/blbread.htm

Go have a look and tell me how much vitamin A, C and B12 whole grains
contain. Then look how much vitamins in general grains contain, then
compare it to refined white flour.

Then go to mcdonalds web site and have a look at the ingredients and
tell me what foods they sell that do not have added sugars like high
fructise corn syrup.

I gauarantee you that I do more researching and reading in a day than
you do in a week.

TC