What to Do for Cancer?

"TonishaWallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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If you were diagnosed with say liver cancer tomorrow, what
would you do?

Heavy chemo?

Follow an ocologists advice.

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Go to Mexico?

For vacation

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Laetrile?

Nope. It is poison.

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What?

Balanced diet, exercise, follow oncologists advice.

"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 10, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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If you were diagnosed with say liver cancer tomorrow,
what would you do?

Heavy chemo?

Follow an ocologists advice.

No, no. Listen to the oncologist. Then get a second and even
a third opinion. Following the oncologist's advice would
kill you quicker than doing nothing.

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Go to Mexico?

For vacation

Try the Gerson center.

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Laetrile?

Nope. It is poison.

No, laetrile is not poison. It is a nitrile not a cyanide.
Typical FDA [censored].

The chemicals used by the oncologist are some of the most
poisonus chemicals in the world. He may even have to give
you an antidote for you to take so that you may not die from
his most recent poisoning. Such [censored]. Laetrile is a
poison....while the stuff the docs use are many times more
poisonus. Yuk, yuk, yuk,,,,,,,.

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What?

Balanced diet, exercise, follow oncologists advice.

Funny, but none of my clients have ever told me that their
oncologist knew [censored] about diet and exercise or even ever
discussed it with them.

I G N O R E the oncologist's advice. He only knows how to
slowly poison you to death. Seek the advice of a Naturopath
or someone who knows healing. You cannot cure cancer. The
body can be healed of cancer, however. You will not find
healing at your local poison and cure center.

DrC PhD

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I G N O R E the oncologist's advice. He only knows how
to slowly poison you to death. Seek the advice of a
Naturopath or someone who knows healing. You cannot
cure cancer. The body can be healed of cancer,
however. You will not find healing at your local
poison and cure center.

DrC PhD

It was in the 70's when Laetrile treatment was going around
as a cure for cancer. My friend Colleen was a bit of an odd
duck with her miracle cure stories (like tying a string
around a wart and then burying the string in the yard).

Colleen quit smoking and harbored a secret thought that if
she ever got cancer she could start smoking again. She got
lung cancer. Then she said, "But I'm going to fool this 'ole
cancer and not start smoking again."

Having a large well-off family who loved her, Colleen had
financial resources to try any avenues open to her. And she
headed off from conventional treatment options.

I don't remember all that she dabbled in (her kitchen looked
like an over-stocked health food store). She traveled for
Laetrile treatment and turned to conventional treatment only
after the cancer grew to the point that one lung had to be
removed. She died.

Now 30 something years later I observe that little has
changed. Some with cancer still shy away from conventional
treatment, going the same route Colleen did. There's been no
overwhelming evidence that Laetrile, etc. merits anymore
success than it did 30 something years ago.

People still have freedom of choice.

On Tue, 11 May 2004 03:37:48 GMT, "Coleah" <[email hidden]>

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She traveled for Laetrile treatment and turned to
conventional treatment only after the cancer grew to the
point that one lung had to be removed. She died.

People often turn to alternative treatments after
conventional ones have failed them ...

I have a cousin who recently died after being chemo'd and
radiated for a year for his leukemia. He died.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ilena Rose said:

Coleah said:

She traveled for Laetrile treatment and turned to
conventional treatment only after the cancer grew to the
point that one lung had to be removed. She died.

People often turn to alternative treatments after
conventional ones have failed them ...

I have a cousin who recently died after being chemo'd and
radiated for a year for his leukemia. He died.

Sadly, he would have died anyway, almost certainly
sooner, if he had opted for alternatives rather than
conventional medicine.

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|you inconvenience me with questions?"

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If you were diagnosed with say liver cancer tomorrow,
what would you

do?

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Heavy chemo?

Follow an ocologists advice.

No, no. Listen to the oncologist. Then get a second and
even a third opinion. Following the oncologist's advice
would kill you quicker than doing nothing.

You are a jerk. Your advice, AFAIAC, constitutes depraved
indifference to human life.

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Go to Mexico?

For vacation

Try the Gerson center.

They have a nice toilet. Then leave.

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Laetrile?

Nope. It is poison.

No, laetrile is not poison. It is a nitrile not a cyanide.
Typical FDA [censored].

It murdered my aunt, you scumbag.

"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 11, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
[email hidden] > > If you were diagnosed with say
liver cancer tomorrow, what would you

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do?

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> Heavy chemo?

Follow an ocologists advice.

No, no. Listen to the oncologist. Then get a second and
even a third opinion. Following the oncologist's advice
would kill you quicker than doing nothing.

You are a jerk. Your advice, AFAIAC, constitutes depraved
indifference to human life.

Mark, are you calling someone else "depravied"? Funny.

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> Go to Mexico?

For vacation

Mexico said that you are not welcome. Seems that they fear
you might contaminate their children.

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Try the Gerson center.

They have a nice toilet. Then leave.

You seem to know about a lot of toilets. Hang out
there often?

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> Laetrile?

Nope. It is poison.

No, laetrile is not poison. It is a nitrile not a
cyanide. Typical FDA [censored].

It murdered my aunt, you scumbag.

Your aunt made her own choices. Why can you not have enough
respect for her to allow her peace now ? Oh, that's right,
you did not and do not respect her nor anyone else. Got some
real self-esteem problems there dude.

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"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 11, 2004" <M.a.r.k
P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden] > > If you were
diagnosed with say liver cancer tomorrow, what would you

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do?

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> > Heavy chemo?
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> Follow an ocologists advice.
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No, no. Listen to the oncologist. Then get a second
and even a third opinion. Following the oncologist's
advice would kill you quicker than doing nothing.

You are a jerk. Your advice, AFAIAC, constitutes
depraved indifference

to

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human life.

Mark, are you calling someone else "depravied"? Funny.

Not at all. Firtly, I am calling him depraved, no 'i'.

Second, anyone advocating the use of Laetrile demonstrates a
depraved indifference to human life. However, you do not
have to worry about that.

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> > Go to Mexico?
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> For vacation

Mexico said that you are not welcome. Seems that they fear
you might contaminate their children.

Now you speak for Mexico.

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Try the Gerson center.

They have a nice toilet. Then leave.

You seem to know about a lot of toilets. Hang out
there often?

I knock on their doors to see if you are home.

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> > Laetrile?
>
> Nope. It is poison.

No, laetrile is not poison. It is a nitrile not a
cyanide. Typical FDA [censored].

It murdered my aunt, you scumbag.

Your aunt made her own choices. Why can you not have
enough respect for

her

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to allow her peace now ? Oh, that's right, you did not and
do not respect her nor anyone else. Got some real self-
esteem problems there dude.

Not me. My aunt was persuaded to stop chemotherapy which was
giving her side effects and try the "safe", "all natural"
Laetrile. The murderer who did the persuading relied on her
desperation. When it became too late for real treatment to
help her, she confided in the family that this dirtbag
murderer had told her to pretend to continue the chemo, but
to stop it and just use the Laetrile. She did not make an
informed choice.

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"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 11, 2004" <M.a.r.k
P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden] > > If you were
diagnosed with say liver

cancer

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tomorrow, what would you

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do?
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> > > Heavy chemo?
> >
> > Follow an ocologists advice.
> >
>
> No, no. Listen to the oncologist. Then get a second
> and even a third opinion. Following the oncologist's
> advice would kill you quicker than doing nothing.

You are a jerk. Your advice, AFAIAC, constitutes
depraved indifference

to

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human life.

Mark, are you calling someone else "depravied"? Funny.

Not at all. Firtly, I am calling him depraved, no 'i'.

typo, boo boo

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Second, anyone advocating the use of Laetrile demonstrates
a depraved indifference to human life. However, you do not
have to worry about that.

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I think that you might have some problems understanding the
worth and responsabilitys of life.

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> > > Go to Mexico?
> >
> > For vacation

Mexico said that you are not welcome. Seems that they
fear you might contaminate their children.

Now you speak for Mexico.

Just passing along the message.

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> Try the Gerson center.

They have a nice toilet. Then leave.

You seem to know about a lot of toilets. Hang out there
often?

I knock on their doors to see if you are home.

No, now get up off your knees.

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> > > Laetrile?
> >
> > Nope. It is poison.
>
> No, laetrile is not poison. It is a nitrile not a
> cyanide. Typical FDA [censored].

It murdered my aunt, you scumbag.

Your aunt made her own choices. Why can you not have
enough respect for

her

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to allow her peace now ? Oh, that's right, you did not
and do not

respect

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her nor anyone else. Got some real self-esteem problems
there dude.

Not me. My aunt was persuaded to stop chemotherapy which
was giving her

side

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effects

And you were there, listning to all conversations that your
aunt had with everyone? And, you heard with your own ears
some person "persuade" her?And you KNOW that your aunt did
not have "termanal" cancer? And, you KNOW that she would
have lived longer and better with Chemo? And You KNOW that
your aunt had not given up on life with cancer?And you KNOW
that this person used the words "safe and natural"?Why do
you think that the courts do not agree with your judgement
as to someone being a "murderer? and try the "safe", "all
natural" Laetrile. The murderer who did the

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persuading relied on her desperation.

Damn! sounds just like the Chemo pushers. When it became too
late for real

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treatment to help her

So you have the unrestrained ego to speak for your aunt
about what is/was "real" to her? , >she confided in the
family that this dirtbag murderer how bout you post a name?

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had told her to pretend to continue the chemo, but to stop
it and just use the Laetrile.

Why would a person tell her to do that? This part of your
story smells fishy. She did not make an informed choice. So,
according to you, she did not make an informed choice. How
do you know that? Did she tell you that ,personaly? You sure
as hell assume a lot. How do you KNOW that she was not told
that she might die on the Laetrile also?

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PS. Mark, that kind of anger is unhealthy, get some help.
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"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 11, 2004" <M.a.r.k
P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden] > > If you were
diagnosed with say liver

cancer

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tomorrow, what would you

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do?
> > >
> > > Heavy chemo?
> >
> > Follow an ocologists advice.
> >
>
> No, no. Listen to the oncologist. Then get a second
> and even a third opinion. Following the oncologist's
> advice would kill you quicker than doing nothing.

You are a jerk. Your advice, AFAIAC, constitutes
depraved indifference

to

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human life.

Mark, are you calling someone else "depravied"? Funny.

Not at all. Firtly, I am calling him depraved, no 'i'.

Second, anyone advocating the use of Laetrile demonstrates
a depraved indifference to human life. However, you do not
have to worry about that.

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> > > Go to Mexico?
> >
> > For vacation

Mexico said that you are not welcome. Seems that they
fear you might contaminate their children.

Now you speak for Mexico.

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> Try the Gerson center.

They have a nice toilet. Then leave.

You seem to know about a lot of toilets. Hang out there
often?

I knock on their doors to see if you are home.

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> >
> > > Laetrile?
> >
> > Nope. It is poison.
>
> No, laetrile is not poison. It is a nitrile not a
> cyanide. Typical FDA [censored].

It murdered my aunt, you scumbag.

Your aunt made her own choices. Why can you not have
enough respect for

her

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to allow her peace now ? Oh, that's right, you did not
and do not

respect

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her nor anyone else. Got some real self-esteem problems
there dude.

Not me. My aunt was persuaded to stop chemotherapy which
was giving her

side

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effects and try the "safe", "all natural" Laetrile. The
murderer who did

the

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persuading relied on her desperation. When it became too
late for real treatment to help her, she confided in the
family that this dirtbag

murderer

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had told her to pretend to continue the chemo, but to
stop it and just use the Laetrile. She did not make an
informed choice.

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"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 11, 2004" <M.a.r.k
P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden] > > If you
were diagnosed with say liver

cancer

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tomorrow, what would you
> do?
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> > > > Heavy chemo?
> > >
> > > Follow an ocologists advice.
> > >
> >
> > No, no. Listen to the oncologist. Then get a
> > second and even a

third

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> > opinion. Following the oncologist's advice would
> > kill you quicker than doing nothing.
>
> You are a jerk. Your advice, AFAIAC, constitutes
> depraved

indifference

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to

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> human life.

Mark, are you calling someone else "depravied"? Funny.

Not at all. Firtly, I am calling him depraved, no 'i'.

typo, boo boo

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Second, anyone advocating the use of Laetrile
demonstrates a depraved indifference to human life.
However, you do not have to worry about

that.

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I think that you might have some problems understanding
the worth and responsabilitys of life.

Responsibilities....

No, I do not have that problem, and I wish you would stop
projecting.

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> > > > Go to Mexico?
> > >
> > > For vacation
Mexico said that you are not welcome. Seems that they
fear you might contaminate their children.

Now you speak for Mexico.

Just passing along the message.

You do a lot of passing.

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> > Try the Gerson center.
>
> They have a nice toilet. Then leave.

You seem to know about a lot of toilets. Hang out
there often?

I knock on their doors to see if you are home.

No, now get up off your knees.

Tsk. Tsk.

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> > > > Laetrile?
> > >
> > > Nope. It is poison.
> >
> > No, laetrile is not poison. It is a nitrile not a
> > cyanide.

Typical

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> > FDA [censored].
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> It murdered my aunt, you scumbag.
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>
>
>
Your aunt made her own choices. Why can you not have
enough respect

for

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her

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to allow her peace now ? Oh, that's right, you did not
and do not

respect

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her nor anyone else. Got some real self-esteem
problems there dude.

Not me. My aunt was persuaded to stop chemotherapy which
was giving her

side

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effects

And you were there, listning to all conversations that
your aunt had with everyone? And, you heard with your own
ears some person "persuade" her?

No, nitwit. She wrote to me several times, and we discussed
it by mail.

And

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you KNOW that your aunt did not have "termanal" cancer?

Yes, I know, at the point she stopped conventional therapy
she was not terminal. Her tumor had shrunk 90%.

And, you KNOW that

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she would have lived longer and better with Chemo? And You
KNOW that your aunt had not given up on life with
cancer?And you KNOW that this person

used

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the words "safe and natural"?Why do you think that the
courts do not agree with your judgement as to someone
being a "murderer?

Because it has never been tested, AFAIK. However, I know of
one prosecutor who would love to try it.

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and try the "safe", "all natural" Laetrile. The murderer
who did the

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persuading relied on her desperation.

Damn! sounds just like the Chemo pushers.

Not really. I have accompanied friends to doctors when they
were discussing chemo. I accompanied my mother when she
went. No one said it was safe and "all natural", you
nincompoop.

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When it became too late for real

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treatment to help her

So you have the unrestrained ego to speak for your aunt
about what is/was "real" to her?

Read for comprehension, clueless one.

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, >she confided in the family that this dirtbag murderer
how bout you post a name?

He is dead.

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had told her to pretend to continue the chemo, but to
stop it and just

use

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the Laetrile.

Why would a person tell her to do that? This part of your
story smells fishy.

The only thing that smells fishy is your underwear.

He told her that since he was selling it to a "mark" and
wanted his sales to continue.

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She did not make an informed choice. So, according to
you, she did not make an informed choice. How do you know
that? Did she tell you that ,personaly? You sure as hell
assume a lot.

You assume that I did not discuss it with her. During
her last letters she expressed her anger at being lied
to by this murderer who led her away from a real chance
for a cure.

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How do you KNOW that she was not told that she might die
on the Laetrile also?

From reading her letters to me.