What the L'Equipe article really means....

Preston Crawford said:

Let's assume it were true. L'Equipe is associated very tightly with the
Tour, thus their ability to get the samples. This would mean,
essentially, that the Tour was complicit. This would mean that *if* it
were true, the biggest guilty party was the organization that milked
Armstrong for 7 years, then let the truth come out only after he
retired. Very coincidental, if true.

The culprit is systematic error in the test protocol.

IIRC, urine testing isn't a reliable indicator of EPO doping.

If they'd sent the samples to different labs (did
they?) then they may have used a test method that
has a common-mode error.

Conversely, they might have the good test, and the
"A" samples may have been tested using bad tests.

The difference in results between "A" and "B" samples is
glaring, damning, and invalidating.

--Blair
"DQ urine testing for EPO."

Blair P. Houghton said:

The culprit is systematic error in the test protocol.

IIRC, urine testing isn't a reliable indicator of EPO doping.

If they'd sent the samples to different labs (did
they?) then they may have used a test method that
has a common-mode error.

Conversely, they might have the good test, and the
"A" samples may have been tested using bad tests.

The difference in results between "A" and "B" samples is
glaring, damning, and invalidating.

No. The A samples were tested in 1999 using then-current tests, but there
was no approved urine test for EPO in 1999. The B samples had been held in
a freezer since then, so this was the first time any of the 1999 samples
had been tested for EPO.

Aa I've been saying all along Mr. Armstrong is a doped and cheater.
Only truth we need is a from Mr.Armstrong's own word. The truth
will not come until he himself admit to the public how he won the
TdF 7 times in a row...It will take more year until Armstrong becoming
more successful and make more money, and then Mr. Armstrong will feel
he has done all the thing in the world and there is nothing left to
hide so he will reveal his drug abuse. This is how it works in
America. LIke a former MLB homer leader Jose Conseco
who used stereoid and other physical enhancement drug who waited until
he felt he has done all the thing right make all the money and wrote
the
book how he used to illegal drug. Then they all say to public do not
use stereoid!
What a ugly joke! we all know [censored] American athletic using drug anyway
possible
to be a million dollar ball-players.

Finally Red Cloud called one right when in his fractured syntax he

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...we all know [censored]

He simply confused the plural for the singular.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

I know a singular from plural. For example, your [censored]-ass spammer is a
singular.
Your two eyes plural could not tell the simply typo from a dumbass
redneck
who is unable to read or write english. And my english is not even
native!
Why is your dumbass redneck moron can't even write their own language
huh?
I speak and write multiply languages!

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I speak and write multiply languages!

And multiply nationalities can't understand you!

SMH

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Your two eyes plural could not tell the simply typo from a dumbass
redneck
who is unable to read or write english.

Aw, don't be so hard on yourself.

And my english is not even

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native!

Very true!

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Why is your dumbass redneck moron can't even write their own language
huh?

Dunno; you probably didn't pay attention at school!

Stephen Harding said:

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I speak and write multiply languages!

And multiply nationalities can't understand you!

SMH

LOL!!!

Preston

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I speak and write multiply languages!

Yes you do! 1) [censored], 2) Low Moronic and 3) Babble

Robert Chung said:

Blair P. Houghton said:

The culprit is systematic error in the test protocol.

IIRC, urine testing isn't a reliable indicator of EPO doping.

If they'd sent the samples to different labs (did
they?) then they may have used a test method that
has a common-mode error.

Conversely, they might have the good test, and the
"A" samples may have been tested using bad tests.

The difference in results between "A" and "B" samples is
glaring, damning, and invalidating.

No. The A samples were tested in 1999 using then-current tests, but there
was no approved urine test for EPO in 1999. The B samples had been held in
a freezer since then, so this was the first time any of the 1999 samples
had been tested for EPO.

Is there an "approved" urine test for EPO now, and what
is its rate of false positives?

--Blair
"Someone's going to ask."

Blair P. Houghton said:

Is there an "approved" urine test for EPO now, and what
is its rate of false positives?

There's been an approved urine test for EPO since the 2000 Olympics. It
was first used in cycling the following Spring, i.e., since April 2001.
The first confirmed false positive case was overturned two weeks ago:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/aug05/aug10news; however,
Armstrong does not appear to fit in that category: Beke naturally produces
and continues to produce proteins that have the characteristics of
synthetic EPO. Beke tested positive using the current test last September,
and it appears that the French lab was working on an updated test last
December when they ran the 1999 "B" samples through as part of their test
validation.

Spammer.

What it really means is that the Brie-eating surrender monkeys that
live in France are jealous (oh, and that you're a trolling ass).

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Spammer.

Confession good for soul, Poofless?

Red Cloud said:

I know a singular from plural. For example, your [censored]-ass spammer is a
singular.
Your two eyes plural could not tell the simply typo from a dumbass
redneck
who is unable to read or write english. And my english is not even
native!
Why is your dumbass redneck moron can't even write their own language
huh?
I speak and write multiply languages!

Fher, zngurzngvpf vf gur havirefny ynathntr, ohg zbfg gehr ovxre va
jbeyq vf Puvarfr naq fcrnx gbathr Puvarfr!

Red Cloud said:

Spammer.

I must disagree. The messages of this thread thusfar
have rated minimally on the Breidbart Index. There is
no evidence of EMP or ECP.
Try again.