What should we believe?

Joe King said:

http://www.tylerhamilton.com/

Believe George Bush

He never gets anything wrong, and would rather lose his right arm than
embark upon any scheme that conflicted with "the Public Interest"

Like anybody but a Dummy knows that Saddam got his Uranium in Niger,
right George? By the way George, since you were probably off sniffing
glue or at home with an acute case of Jim Beam 'flu when they spent a
half hour or so on Africa, Niger and Nigeria are two entirely
different places.

And only a lunatic fringe of lefty moonbat commie pinko America-hating
Saddam-loving Islamofascist sympathizing liberal moonbats believe in
"the public interest". Why, the very phrase comes right out of Marx,
proving that there is no difference at all between The Communist
Manifesto and the Democrat Party's platform.

The vast majority of true patriotic Americans realize that the only
interests that matter are the interests of George W. Bush, [censored] Cheney
and their financial backers in the corporate ruling class.

Or ask the other Texas Themistocles, slated to head the Intelligence(sic)
Committee who believes al Quaeda is a Shiite outfit when they are
actually Sunni who hate Shiites worse than Torquemada hated Truth

Jeeperz, Davey makes a mental note to phone his friend in Austin to
see if she can do anything for that pair of Wankerz.

Nope, not LA. Davey has a real friend in Austin, and she works, most
appropriately in the current context, at the Texas School for the
Blind 😉

Davey was gonna send her a Christmas card, but is holding off until he
can determine whether such seasonal frivolities in Austin have met the
same fate as the Sea-Tac Santas

--
Le vent à Dos
Davey Crockett [No 4Q to reply]
X-Shakespeare: "If chance will have me king, why, chance may crown me
without my stir." -- Macbeth, I.3

Davey Crockett said:

Believe George Bush
Jeeperz, Davey makes a mental note to phone his friend in Austin to
see if she can do anything for that pair of Wankerz.

Nope, not LA. Davey has a real friend in Austin, and she works, most
appropriately in the current context, at the Texas School for the
Blind 😉

Thats most disappointing. I thought you were about to say she does S&M for
$. I mean what better christmas present than a photograph of shrub and
slimey being whipped with a riding crop.

Donald Munro said:

Davey Crockett said:

Believe George Bush
Jeeperz, Davey makes a mental note to phone his friend in Austin to
see if she can do anything for that pair of Wankerz.

Nope, not LA. Davey has a real friend in Austin, and she works, most
appropriately in the current context, at the Texas School for the
Blind 😉

Thats most disappointing. I thought you were about to say she does S&M for
$. I mean what better christmas present than a photograph of shrub and
slimey being whipped with a riding crop.

Unfortunately she's a bit too prim and proper for that kind of caper
and since we only talk biking and ordinary pleasanteries, her politics
are unknown

They might be slightly coloured by the fact that her ancestors
populated that part of the world before Bridger, Travis, Crockett et
alii had ever heard of the Alamo, or Texas had ever heard of the
Gringo Bush Clan

She never posts in here though, but perhaps I might be able to talk
her into it under a nom-de-plume

I'll wait until later and give her a call

(Davey doesn't pay for phone calls and hates email with a passion)

--
Le vent à Dos
Davey Crockett [No 4Q to reply]
X-Shakespeare: "Let every eye negotiate for itself,
And trust no agent." -- Much Ado About Nothing, II.1

Davey Crockett said:

Quoted message said:

Thats most disappointing. I thought you were about to say she does S&M for
$. I mean what better christmas present than a photograph of shrub and
slimey being whipped with a riding crop.

Some locals enjoy getting cards with pictures of snowy things on them;
along with seeing newspaper and TV accounts of snowfall in other parts
of the country. Ski vacations are popular, too; you go and then you get
to leave.

Quoted message said:

They might be slightly coloured by the fact that her ancestors
populated that part of the world before Bridger, Travis, Crockett et
alii had ever heard of the Alamo, or Texas had ever heard of the
Gringo Bush Clan

There are some groups who put great stock in being the first to push
the aboriginals out of the way, who also don't want to take
responsibility for the shortcomings of colonial administrators.

The Bushes aren't gringos, Davey! They're Yanks ("Yankees", formally)
(that's the big inside joke about them being Texas oil people, and the
"ranch" at Crawford and all that)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush

"[censored]'s Angel". I hadn't seen that one before. Well, there's a lot
ol' D-y doesn't know about. And the wiki piece doesn't talk much about
the steamship line, and so forth. --D-y

Quoted post said:

There are some groups who put great stock in being the first to push
the aboriginals out of the way, who also don't want to take
responsibility for the shortcomings of colonial administrators.

The Bushes aren't gringos, Davey! They're Yanks ("Yankees", formally)
(that's the big inside joke about them being Texas oil people, and the
"ranch" at Crawford and all that)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush

"[censored]'s Angel". I hadn't seen that one before. Well, there's a lot
ol' D-y doesn't know about. And the wiki piece doesn't talk much about
the steamship line, and so forth. --D-y

You need to keep an extremely open mind when reading Wiki

Their information is very highly partisan

It's best to get at least one more 'take' on any given controversial
subject

--
Le vent à Dos
Davey Crockett [No 4Q to reply]
X-Shakespeare: "Your old virginity is like one of our French withered pears:
it looks ill, it eats drily."
-- All's Well That Ends Well, I.1

Davey Crockett said:

Quoted post said:

There are some groups who put great stock in being the first to push
the aboriginals out of the way, who also don't want to take
responsibility for the shortcomings of colonial administrators.

The Bushes aren't gringos, Davey! They're Yanks ("Yankees", formally)
(that's the big inside joke about them being Texas oil people, and the
"ranch" at Crawford and all that)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush

"[censored]'s Angel". I hadn't seen that one before. Well, there's a lot
ol' D-y doesn't know about. And the wiki piece doesn't talk much about
the steamship line, and so forth. --D-y

You need to keep an extremely open mind when reading Wiki

Their information is very highly partisan

It's best to get at least one more 'take' on any given controversial
subject

Agreed.

http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

http://nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=NN_Bush_Nazi_Link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

Well, I looked through this stuff, admittedly briefly on this occasion.
I didn't see anything contrary to the Wiki piece; only added detail.

D-y has a theory that the events of 1942 ("that SOB FDR took granpa
Prescott's money!!"😉 have something to do with the tenor (aka
"'Liberal' bashing"😉 of public discourse here in the USA. In spite of
the fact that Prescott's one share came to be worth $1.5 million to him
in 1940's money.

Maybe it was just the principle of the thing. --D-y

Quoted post said:

Davey Crockett said:

Quoted message said:

Thats most disappointing. I thought you were about to say she does S&M for
$. I mean what better christmas present than a photograph of shrub and
slimey being whipped with a riding crop.

Some locals enjoy getting cards with pictures of snowy things on them;
along with seeing newspaper and TV accounts of snowfall in other parts
of the country. Ski vacations are popular, too; you go and then you get
to leave.

Quoted message said:

They might be slightly coloured by the fact that her ancestors
populated that part of the world before Bridger, Travis, Crockett et
alii had ever heard of the Alamo, or Texas had ever heard of the
Gringo Bush Clan

There are some groups who put great stock in being the first to push
the aboriginals out of the way, who also don't want to take
responsibility for the shortcomings of colonial administrators.

The Bushes aren't gringos, Davey! They're Yanks ("Yankees", formally)
(that's the big inside joke about them being Texas oil people, and the
"ranch" at Crawford and all that)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush

"[censored]'s Angel". I hadn't seen that one before. Well, there's a lot
ol' D-y doesn't know about. And the wiki piece doesn't talk much about
the steamship line, and so forth. --D-y

Davey's head is still spinning on the vituperation still being
directed at the Bush Klan

Way back in F.D. Rosenvelt's day, it was totally understandable having
regard to his inate bellicose ambitions and hatred of the German
nation, and his need for war to jumpstart the economy after - or to
end - the Depression

But, even though there were a bunch of archived papers declassified a
few years back documenting the relationship with National Socialist
Germany , I just don't understand why the negative pieces
continue since at the time they started appearing, Baby Bush was
firmly committed to the destruction of the Iraqi nation, finishing off
the job that Daddy Bush started 10 years or so previously.

And as for way back when, the Hamburg-Amerika line and Thyssen
Steel/Banking were simply smart business deals. I don't see any
negative criticism of Krupp, Messerschmidt or Quandt notwithstanding
that the first two being buddy-buddy with the German Chancellor and
the latter being Magda Goebels' ex-father in law and continuing
financial supporter.

--
Le vent à Dos
Davey Crockett [No 4Q to reply]
X-Shakespeare: "If you can look into the seeds of time,
And say which grain will grow and which will not,
Speak then to me, who neither beg nor fear
Your favors nor your hate." -- Macbeth, I.3.61-64

"Joe King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

http://www.tylerhamilton.com/

Back to the original post.

I believe.

The system is so biased against the athlete. So many careers are being
ruined. Let true science run the anti-doping programs, not knee-jerk .

Innocent until proven guilty.
Right to face your accusser
Right to full disclosure of evidence, discovery (not the team )

Now all of the teams that escaped the crusades so far are piling on Tinkov
and Discovery. It is because the want the competitive edge. Jealousy ...

Davey Crockett said:

Davey's head is still spinning on the vituperation still being
directed at the Bush Klan

Davey, I think that's a pretty nasty personal slam, directed as it was
at a man who hired on a black lesbian woman for one of his top
power/prestige jobs. That K instead of a C thing? pretty low-down,
buddy. Hires Mexicans, too.

Quoted message said:

Way back in F.D. Rosenvelt's day, it was totally understandable having
regard to his inate bellicose ambitions and hatred of the German
nation, and his need for war to jumpstart the economy after - or to
end - the Depression

Like other, more recent events, it took an attack on our own (Dole,
Inc.) soil to supply a case to bring before the people. If that's the
area you're talking about, above. And not being W.J. Clinton, of
course: <http://www.theonion.com/content/node/56410> What a loser--
won that Bush election, won his war (from the air, only time in
recorded history), and after all the millions and millions spent, all
they could bust him for was lying to protect the honor of a foolish
young woman with a harlot for a mother. Even kept his law license. What
a dork.

Quoted message said:

But, even though there were a bunch of archived papers declassified a
few years back documenting the relationship with National Socialist
Germany , I just don't understand why the negative pieces
continue since at the time they started appearing, Baby Bush was
firmly committed to the destruction of the Iraqi nation, finishing off
the job that Daddy Bush started 10 years or so previously.

Bringing to light some family traditions, perhaps in an effort to
understand the business in Iraq? (i.e., attacking the wrong country--
you know, instead of Saudi Arabia) (well, then there were the pictures
of G2B2 strolling on the White House grounds hand-in-hand with a Saudi
man in a flowing white dress, so that explained all that, of course!)

Quoted message said:

And as for way back when, the Hamburg-Amerika line and Thyssen
Steel/Banking were simply

Rhetorical failure: "simply" does not apply to these machinations, or
their purposes. At least you didn't try "merely". Whew! ("Adolph, what
are you doing with all that steel?"😉

Quoted message said:

smart business deals. I don't see any
negative criticism of Krupp, Messerschmidt or Quandt notwithstanding
that the first two being buddy-buddy with the German Chancellor and
the latter being Magda Goebels' ex-father in law and continuing
financial supporter.

Well, you can see some of the Kennedy-Astor correspondence IRT the
Jewish Problem on Wiki (transcriptions of correspondence that speak for
themselves, devoid of editorial slant, and no spam for going there,
either, IME) to flesh out the zeitgeist-- probably a redundant trip for
you, since you were reading the papers every day back then, right
Davey?

Selective Allied bombing, war criminals being given hall passes if not
high-paying jobs and/or massively profitable business opportunities?
That kind of thing? Sure, but we were talking OT about the Bush clan...
--D-y