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On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 11:45:11 GMT, "Sniper8052(L96A1)"
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Has anyone else had problems reading messages on the URC site?

Um, site? This is Usenet!

Guy
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onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles
around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales

Sniper8052(L96A1) said:

Has anyone else had problems reading messages on the URC site? When I
log in none of the messages have been updated.
Sniper8052

URC site? This is a usenet group, we don't have a site.

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Open hearts, no strategies"

Email address is spam trapped, to reply directly remove the beverage.

"Sniper8052(L96A1)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Has anyone else had problems reading messages on the URC site? When I
log in none of the messages have been updated.

Situation normal. You could try another newserver and/or Google groups. I
often receive posts long after they were sent or only the replies to the OP
but not the OP.

Anyone more technically proficient able to make recommendations for
improvement?

TIA,
Pete

Peter B said:

"Sniper8052(L96A1)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Has anyone else had problems reading messages on the URC site? When
I log in none of the messages have been updated.

Try "resetting" your software.

Quoted message said:

Situation normal. You could try another newserver and/or Google
groups. I often receive posts long after they were sent or only the
replies to the OP but not the OP.

Anyone more technically proficient able to make recommendations for
improvement?

Use the free news.individual.net server--very reliable and quick, messages
usually appear within seconds of posting.

See http://www.individual.net

~PB

in message <[email hidden]>, Sniper805

(L96A1) (') said:

Has anyone else had problems reading messages on the URC site? When I
log in none of the messages have been updated.

There is no URC site. Usenet doesn't work like that; it's a
store-and-forward network. It sounds as if your local server (most
likely your ISP's news server) isn't accepting messages; there could be
a lot of reasons for this (not enough bandwidth, not enough disk,
broken software...). If your ISP's news server is [censored], one solution
would be to get an account with a different server; many of us use
news.individual.net.

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[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
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;; then Perl is executable line noise
-- seen on Slashdot.

Simon Brooke said:

There is no URC site. Usenet doesn't work like that; it's a
store-and-forward network. It sounds as if your local server (most
likely your ISP's news server) isn't accepting messages; there could be
a lot of reasons for this (not enough bandwidth, not enough disk,
broken software...). If your ISP's news server is [censored], one solution
would be to get an account with a different server; many of us use
news.individual.net.

For people, like me, on BlueYonder the news server given in the set-up
documentation - news.blueyonder.co.uk - is very patchy. There is,
however, the text-only alternative news-text.blueyonder.co.uk. This is
orders of magnitude better as long as you don't need to access the
newsgroups that carry binaries.

--
Dave...

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the
future of the human race. - H. G. Wells

Dave Kahn said:

Simon Brooke said:

There is no URC site. Usenet doesn't work like that; it's a
store-and-forward network. It sounds as if your local server (most
likely your ISP's news server) isn't accepting messages; there could be
a lot of reasons for this (not enough bandwidth, not enough disk,
broken software...). If your ISP's news server is [censored], one solution
would be to get an account with a different server; many of us use
news.individual.net.

For people, like me, on BlueYonder the news server given in the set-up
documentation - news.blueyonder.co.uk - is very patchy. There is,
however, the text-only alternative news-text.blueyonder.co.uk. This is
orders of magnitude better as long as you don't need to access the
newsgroups that carry binaries.

Ah yes blueyonder those bastions of reliability. Though the messages
were appearing in my firefox windows sometime later (5-8 hours) they
weren't appearing on the internet. Will have a look at
http://www.individual.net to see if I can get a faster feed.
Thanks all
Sniper8052.

"Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If your ISP's news server is [censored], one solution
would be to get an account with a different server; many of us use
news.individual.net.

Thanks Simon, so do I now.
My news.individual.net acount has retrieved 8 posts re this thread whereas
my BT account has only retrieved
6, I'll see if that's the general trend.

Pete

"Peter B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

If your ISP's news server is [censored], one solution
would be to get an account with a different server; many of us use
news.individual.net.

Thanks Simon, so do I now.
My news.individual.net acount has retrieved 8 posts re this thread whereas
my BT account has only retrieved
6, I'll see if that's the general trend.

A quick poll shows no "Re:" messages in the individual account and masses in
the BT account.

in message <[email hidden]>, Peter B

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"Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

If your ISP's news server is [censored], one solution
would be to get an account with a different server; many of us use
news.individual.net.

Thanks Simon, so do I now.
My news.individual.net acount has retrieved 8 posts re this thread
whereas my BT account has only retrieved
6, I'll see if that's the general trend.

OK, but there is a subsidiary point here. You (and I) are paying BT to
provide us with a service - namely an NNTP news server - which BT are
failing to provide. Instead of hassling BT to deliver on their contract
we're freeloading off a German academic institution, which means
ultimately freeloading off the German taxpayer.

I think there's some degree of moral obligation on us either to kick
some butt at BT until they do deliver an adequate service, to find a
reliable commercial Usenet provider, or to start to rebuild the
informal peer-to-peer network which Usenet grew out of.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

There are no messages. The above is just a random stream of
bytes. Any opinion or meaning you find in it is your own creation.

Simon Brooke said:

OK, but there is a subsidiary point here. You (and I) are paying BT to
provide us with a service - namely an NNTP news server - which BT are
failing to provide.

Its probably their safe surfing filters blocking any mention of spoke
nipples that's doing it ;-)

Tony

Simon Brooke said:

OK, but there is a subsidiary point here. You (and I) are paying BT to
provide us with a service - namely an NNTP news server - which BT are
failing to provide. Instead of hassling BT to deliver on their contract
we're freeloading off a German academic institution, which means
ultimately freeloading off the German taxpayer.

Personally I'd be quite happy to pay for the news.individual.net service
if there was any way to do so - would they accept an envelope containing
leftover holiday Euros d'you think? :-)

--
Carol
"Mmmmooooowooooff!" - the Moobark, "The Treacle People"

Sniper8052(L96A1) said:

Ah yes blueyonder those bastions of reliability. Though the messages
were appearing in my firefox windows sometime later (5-8 hours) they
weren't appearing on the internet. Will have a look at
http://www.individual.net to see if I can get a faster feed.
Thanks all
Sniper8052.

I can't say I've had any problems of that sort - just that the default
news server becomes unavailable every few minutes. The text only one
seems fine most of the time though it did disappear for a while the
other day.

--
Dave...

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the
future of the human race. - H. G. Wells

Peter B said:

"Sniper8052(L96A1)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Has anyone else had problems reading messages on the URC site? When
I log in none of the messages have been updated.

Try "resetting" your software.

Quoted message said:

Situation normal. You could try another newserver and/or Google
groups. I often receive posts long after they were sent or only the
replies to the OP but not the OP.

Quoted message said:

Anyone more technically proficient able to make recommendations for
improvement?

Use the free news.individual.net server--very reliable and quick,
messages
usually appear within seconds of posting.

See http://www.individual.net

~PB

I went to the site but you have 'name your browser'. I use mozilla but
it was not one of the browser options...........I emailed them to tell
them I was not going to give them my email address but the joked
backfired I think.....

ps....with this new google groups page I have pasted the post I am
replying to because when I used the 'reply' option before my post
appeared by itself without the 'context'.
Sean.......

Quoted message said:

ps....with this new google groups page I have pasted the post
I am replying to because when I used the 'reply' option before
my post appeared by itself without the 'context'.

Before composing your reply click "Preview" then click "Edit" and the
context will appear although it'll be a terrible mess that you'll have
to reformat manually. There'll also be a blank line at the top for you
to remove - it appears that GG2 is encouraging top posting.
--
Dave...

Quoted message said:

Peter B said:

Use the free news.individual.net server--very reliable and quick,
messages
usually appear within seconds of posting.
See http://www.individual.net
~PB

I went to the site but you have 'name your browser'. I use mozilla but
it was not one of the browser options....

Well lie, and say IE5 :-)
Its not as if one uses a browser to access a newsgroup. Anything which will
do the news protocols will work; the Mozilla newsreader, Outlook Express,
Netscape, or (I guess) even vn !

Quoted message said:

.......I emailed them to tell
them I was not going to give them my email address but the joked
backfired I think.....

I guess so :-)

They are fine with your email address; all they want it for is to issue you
with a username and password pair so that you can post messages. There is no
suggestion they will spam you.

- Nigel (been using www.individual.net for years).

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