What's penne pasta?

"Ken Knecht" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
recipes I couldn't find a description.

Here you go:

http://images.google.com/images?q=pasta+shapes+penne&hl=en

nancy

Ken Knecht said:

I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
recipes I couldn't find a description.

Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
pasta. But, I'm not sure.

Karen

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I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
recipes I couldn't find a description.

Are you familiar with Google images? It should give you a pic faster than
you can say penne.

I am under the *impression* penne may be marketed as ziti in the USA.

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I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
recipes I couldn't find a description.

TIA

From the Ronzoni web site:

Penne Rigate Definition & Description: From the Latin for "feathers"
(reminiscent of old-fashioned quill pens) they are diagonally cut tubular
shapes with ridged surfaces. Best Uses: Versatile in size and shape, penne
takes only 6 minutes to cook! Use it in entrées, side dishes, soup, oven
bakes or cold salads. Most pasta sauces are great with penne, but thinner
sauces will cling to ridges in penne.

http://www.ronzoni.com/cooking/PastaShape.asp?S=37&C=2&N=Short+Shapes

Jke said:

I am under the *impression* penne may be marketed as ziti in the USA.

There's a taxonomy here:

Ziti: straight macaroni with a medium diameter (smaller is just
"macaroni" and bigger gets into the "manicotti" and "canneloni" range)

Penne or Penne Ziti: Ziti with the ends cut obliquely, like a quill
pen

Penne Rigate: Penne with ridges on the outside

Penne Lisce: Penne with a non-ridged surface

Rigatoni: Ziti with ridges on the outside and a straight-cut end

And, oh yeah, a couple of thousand years of spaghetti bending has made
it even more complicated than that:

http://www.foodsubs.com/PastaTubes.html

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Ken Knecht said:

I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
recipes I couldn't find a description.

TIA

images.google.com - search on penne pasta
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Yes. Penne is a pasta shape. What description do you need?

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I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
recipes I couldn't find a description.

Are you familiar with Google images? It should give you a pic faster than
you can say penne.

I am under the *impression* penne may be marketed as ziti in the USA.

No. It is impossible . Penne are these:

http://images.google.it/images?q=penne+barilla&hl=it&btnG=Cerca+immagini

They can be "lisce or rigate" (Smooth or striped).

Ziti are these:

http://images.google.it/imgres?imgurl=http://it.primopiatto.barilla.com/ilmondodellapasta/lapastabarilla/lespecialitaregionali/img/3060_pp_it_ilmondodellapasta_lapastabarilla_specialitaregionali_ziti_p.jpg&imgrefurl=http://it.primopiatto.barilla.com/ilmondodellapasta/lapastabarilla/lespecialitaregionali/htm/prod_212.htm&h=145&w=200&sz=9&tbnid=jl8yl8PRVcwp1M:&tbnh=71&tbnw=99&hl=it&start=25&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dziti%26start%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dit%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

They are similar to "Bucatini" but with a bigger diameter. They generally
use them not long as they are, but broken in 4" pieces.

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Ken Knecht said:

I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
recipes I couldn't find a description.

Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
pasta. But, I'm not sure.

Karen

Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.

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Ken Knecht said:

I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
recipes I couldn't find a description.

Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
pasta. But, I'm not sure.

Karen

Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.

Ciao
lp

The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to a
plume 🙂
Pandora

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"Luca Pinotti"

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Ken Knecht wrote:
> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
> recipes I couldn't find a description.

Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
pasta. But, I'm not sure.

Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.

The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to a
plume 🙂
Pandora

Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not yet
been invented at the time of the penne designation for that particular
pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
pencil.

M-W

pen
noun
Etymology: Middle English penne, from Middle French, feather, pen, from
Latin penna, pinna feather; akin to Greek pteron wing -- more at
FEATHER
1 : an implement for writing or drawing with ink or a similar fluid: as
a : QUILL
---

Sheldon

Blair P. Houghton said:

Jke said:

I am under the *impression* penne may be marketed as ziti in the USA.

There's a taxonomy here:

Ziti: straight macaroni with a medium diameter (smaller is just
"macaroni" and bigger gets into the "manicotti" and "canneloni" range)

Penne or Penne Ziti: Ziti with the ends cut obliquely, like a quill
pen

Penne Rigate: Penne with ridges on the outside

Penne Lisce: Penne with a non-ridged surface

Rigatoni: Ziti with ridges on the outside and a straight-cut end

And, oh yeah, a couple of thousand years of spaghetti bending has made
it even more complicated than that:

Thousands, try about 100 years... it was only a little more than 120
years ago that the first extruded/tubular pasta was made.... previously
the 'talians made only cut flat pasta (cut by knife and wires), not
even 'ghettis were dreamed up yet. Of course for thousands of years
the orientals produced long noodles entirely by hand, using no tools
whatsoever, by intricate stretching techniques. The first pasta
extrusion dies were made in trhe US in 1903.

Sheldon

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"Luca Pinotti"

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> Ken Knecht wrote:
>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots
>> of
>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>
> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.

The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to a
plume 🙂
Pandora

Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not yet
been invented at the time of the penne designation for that particular
pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
pencil.

Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
"Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence the
italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.

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pen
noun
Etymology: Middle English penne, from Middle French, feather, pen, from
Latin penna, pinna feather; akin to Greek pteron wing -- more at
FEATHER
1 : an implement for writing or drawing with ink or a similar fluid: as
a : QUILL

Pencil
from L. penicillus "paintbrush, pencil," lit. "little tail," dim. of
peniculus "brush," itself a dim. of penis "tail"

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"Luca Pinotti"
>> Ken Knecht wrote:
>>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing
>>> lots of
>>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>>
>> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
>> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
> Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.

The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to a
plume 🙂
Pandora

Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not yet
been invented at the time of the penne designation for that particular
pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
pencil.

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Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
"Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence the
italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.

I meant stilographic pen 🙂

Ciao
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> "Luca Pinotti"
> >> Ken Knecht wrote:
> >>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing
> >>> lots of
> >>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
> >>
> >> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
> >> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
> > Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.
>
> The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to a
> plume 🙂
> Pandora

Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not yet
been invented at the time of the penne designation for that particular
pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
pencil.

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Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
"Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence the
italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.

I meant stilographic pen 🙂

Oh gosh... The fountain pen (as we know it today) is dated 1850 although
there are examples dated 960 AD. ;-)

Ciao
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> Pandopa wrote:
>> "Luca Pinotti"
>> >> Ken Knecht wrote:
>> >>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing
>> >>> lots of
>> >>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>> >>
>> >> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
>> >> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
>> > Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.
>>
>> The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to
>> a
>> plume 🙂
>> Pandora
>
> Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
> quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not yet
> been invented at the time of the penne designation for that particular
> pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
> pencil.

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Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
"Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence
the italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.

I meant stilographic pen 🙂

Oh gosh... The fountain pen (as we know it today) is dated 1850 although
there are examples dated 960 AD. ;-)

Let me know if you will find something else, after your investigation.
Are you writing from Italy or do you live in Usa?
ciao
Pandora

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>> Pandopa wrote:
>>> "Luca Pinotti"
>>> >> Ken Knecht wrote:
>>> >>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing
>>> >>> lots of
>>> >>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>>> >>
>>> >> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
>>> >> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
>>> > Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.
>>>
>>> The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to
>>> a
>>> plume 🙂
>>> Pandora
>>
>> Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
>> quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not yet
>> been invented at the time of the penne designation for that particular
>> pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
>> pencil.

>
> Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
> "Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence
> the italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.

I meant stilographic pen 🙂

Oh gosh... The fountain pen (as we know it today) is dated 1850 although
there are examples dated 960 AD. ;-)

Let me know if you will find something else, after your investigation.
Are you writing from Italy or do you live in Usa?

Investigation on what? Penne or pens?
I live in Italy. You should argue it from by poor English ;-)

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>>> Pandopa wrote:
>>>> "Luca Pinotti"
>>>> >> Ken Knecht wrote:
>>>> >>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing
>>>> >>> lots of
>>>> >>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
>>>> >> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
>>>> > Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.
>>>>
>>>> The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not
>>>> to a
>>>> plume 🙂
>>>> Pandora
>>>
>>> Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
>>> quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not
>>> yet
>>> been invented at the time of the penne designation for that
>>> particular
>>> pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
>>> pencil.
>
>>
>> Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
>> "Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence
>> the italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.
>
> I meant stilographic pen 🙂

Oh gosh... The fountain pen (as we know it today) is dated 1850 although
there are examples dated 960 AD. ;-)

Let me know if you will find something else, after your investigation.
Are you writing from Italy or do you live in Usa?

Investigation on what? Penne or pens?
I live in Italy. You should argue it from by poor English ;-)

Perchè non hai visto come scrivo io 🙂
In quale regione ti trovi dell'Italia? Io in Piemonte, vicino Torino ma sono
romana.
BTW I meant investigations on penne🙂
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>>>> Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
>>>> quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not
>>>> yet
>>>> been invented at the time of the penne designation for that
>>>> particular
>>>> pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
>>>> pencil.
>>
>>>
>>> Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in
>>> 1795.
>>> "Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence
>>> the italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.
>>
>> I meant stilographic pen 🙂
>
> Oh gosh... The fountain pen (as we know it today) is dated 1850
> although there are examples dated 960 AD. ;-)

Let me know if you will find something else, after your investigation.
Are you writing from Italy or do you live in Usa?

Investigation on what? Penne or pens?
I live in Italy. You should argue it from by poor English ;-)

Perchè non hai visto come scrivo io 🙂
In quale regione ti trovi dell'Italia? Io in Piemonte, vicino Torino ma
sono romana.

You too trying to teach italian cuisine to our American friends? ;-)
I'm from Milan. Thus, with my friends from Naples and Taranto (not to
mention the ones from Tuscany, Emilia and Veneto) we can cover at least 7
regions :-)

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BTW I meant investigations on penne🙂

What else to know? Penne were first made in Gragnano (Naples) between 1600
and 1800. There's no patend pending and no offficial birth date ;-)

Ciao
Luca