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I'm going to a bonsai convention in St. Louis, MO next
week and I've never been there before. Where do I want to
go and what foods do I need to try?

I expect a full report on my desk in the morning.

Pastorio

Hmmm... depends on what you like. You need to try some
restaurants on The Hill. Maybe hit Tonys. I'm going to be in
town next week. I'd love to meet you for lunch or dinner.
This bonsai convention, is it at the Botanical Gardens? My
friend Leo may be in from Arizona that week. He does
something every year at the garden about this time. Brian
can help out with this too. You can hit the trendy places in
my old neighborhood, The Central West End. Cafe Balaban,
Zoe's, and Kopperman's Deli. Dressel's Pub is my favorite
burger joint. Then there are several nice spots in my
current neck of the woods. Zinnia comes to mind immediately.
Whatcha' like to do?

Michael <- email dog30atcharterdotnet

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Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

Bob (this one) said:

I'm going to a bonsai convention in St. Louis, MO next
week and I've never been there before.

What venue; convention center, hotel or Botanical Garden?
Will you have a car? What is preferred cuisine?

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Where do I want to go and what foods do I need to try?
Toasted Ravioli for an appetizer at any Italian
restaurant.

Botanical Garden is on the edge of the Italian community
("The Hill"😉 so plenty of very good Italian food; any
restaurant on "The Hill" is going to be a good choice,
though my favorite is Cunetto's, closely followed by
Rigazzi's. Good Mexican at Chuy Arzola's in "Dogtown".

Like sports celebrity steakhouse? Dierdorf and Hart's or
Mike Shannon's downtown.

Four star? Tony's, also downtown.

Cheap? White Castle or Courtesy Drive-in or, Big Ed'd
Chili Mac Diner (downtown) or OT Hodge Chili Parlor
(near downtown)

Hamburger? Dooley's Pub downtown or O'Connel's pub near
Botanical Garden.

or check out riverfronttimes.comriverfronttimes.comOpen ↗
dining_toc.html and use the search box (lower right of page)
to search by cuisine, neighborhood, etc.

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I expect a full report on my desk in the morning.

Good luck with that; you'd have to leave an email address
for that to happen

Quoted message said:

Pastorio

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Quoted message said:

I'm going to a bonsai convention in St. Louis, MO next
week and I've never been there before. Where do I want to
go and what foods do I need to try?

I expect a full report on my desk in the morning.

Pastorio

There's a great steak house - can't remember the name of it,
but a teamster's kid got his legs blown off by the mob (long
time ago) when he was eating there (sit facing the door
LOL). Tony's? Just can't remember.

Touristy things - LOVE the arch; hated the zoo; loved
the ballpark. I think there are some good eating places
on a riverboat or two, also. (Not the one with
McDonald's arches.)

N.

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Quoted message said:

I'm going to a bonsai convention in St. Louis, MO next
week and I've never been there before. Where do I want to
go and what foods do I need to try?

I expect a full report on my desk in the morning.

Pastorio

Q

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Dimitri

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Quoted message said:

Bob (this one) said:

I'm going to a bonsai convention in St. Louis, MO next
week and I've never been there before.

What venue; convention center, hotel or Botanical Garden?
Will you have a car? What is preferred cuisine?

Quoted message said:

Where do I want to go and what foods do I need to try?
Toasted Ravioli for an appetizer at any Italian
restaurant.

Botanical Garden is on the edge of the Italian community
("The Hill"😉 so plenty of very good Italian food; any
restaurant on "The Hill" is going to be a good choice,
though my favorite is Cunetto's, closely followed by
Rigazzi's. Good Mexican at Chuy Arzola's in "Dogtown".

I like Cunetto's too but Charlie Gitto's is my fave for
mostaccioli. Either place will be good for toasted ravioli.

I also like Giovanni's. It's more upscale but the food is
incredible... sometimes.

Bommarito's on Hampton is really decent for a neighborhood
spot. Great food and affordable prices.

Woo Hoo!! Another Chuy fan. I was there the night they
opened. They ran out of guacamole. I loved the place and
have been going back every since.

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Like sports celebrity steakhouse? Dierdorf and Hart's or
Mike Shannon's downtown.

Never been.

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Four star? Tony's, also downtown.

Yep. My parents go there a great deal and sometimes I'm
lucky enough for an invite.

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Cheap? White Castle or Courtesy Drive-in or, Big Ed'd
Chili Mac Diner (downtown) or OT Hodge Chili Parlor (near
downtown)

I opt for the Courtesy on Kingshighway. Don't forget Al's on
Manchester.

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Hamburger? Dooley's Pub downtown or O'Connel's pub near
Botanical Garden.

We disagree. O'Connel's is highly over rated IMO. I rate
them right up there with Busch's Grove in the "We've
been coming here for generations" category. I'm an ex
Grove person.

Quoted message said:

or check out riverfronttimes.comcurrenOpen ↗
t/dining_toc.html and use the search box (lower right of
page) to search by cuisine, neighborhood, etc.

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I expect a full report on my desk in the morning.

Good luck with that; you'd have to leave an email address
for that to happen

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Pastorio

Bob should get plenty of responses. Wanna get together a
mini RFC thingy when he's in town?

Michael

--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

Dog3 said:

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Quoted message said:

I'm going to a bonsai convention in St. Louis, MO next
week and I've never been there before. Where do I want
to go and what foods do I need to try?

I expect a full report on my desk in the morning.

Pastorio

Hmmm... depends on what you like. You need to try some
restaurants on

The

Quoted message said:

Hill. Maybe hit Tonys. I'm going to be in town next week.
I'd love to meet you for lunch or dinner. This bonsai
convention, is it at the Botanical Gardens? My friend Leo
may be in from Arizona that week. He does something every
year at the garden about this time. Brian can help out
with this too. You can hit the trendy places in my old
neighborhood, The Central West End. Cafe Balaban, Zoe's,
and Kopperman's Deli. Dressel's Pub is my favorite burger
joint. Then there are several nice spots in my current
neck of the woods. Zinnia comes to mind immediately.
Whatcha' like to do?

Tucker's in Soulard for cheap but good steaks...and is the
South City Diner still open?

There is that place in Soulard that's a church converted to
a resto...it was famous for a good Sunday brunch...was (is)
it Patty Long's? I know they used to be in Lafayette
Square....

Also (depending on the days the OP is there) I'd recommend a
trip to the Soulard Farmer's Market. It's pretty neat...we
don't have anything like it here in Chicago. Say "Hi" to the
live poultry for me if you go ;--)

Oh! Ted Drewe's frozen custard!

--
Best Greg

LAllin said:

Bob (this one) said:

I'm going to a bonsai convention in St. Louis, MO next
week and I've never been there before.

What venue; convention center, hotel or Botanical Garden?
Will you have a car? What is preferred cuisine?

The convention will be held at the Renaissance Hotel
adjacent to Lambert St. Louis International Airport. I'll
have a van. And wife and 12-year-old daughter (who is cooler
than most adults).

Cuisine? I'm not setting limits. I just want to see what the
quaint natives eat as they dance around in their colorful
native costumes singing tuneful native folk songs, playing
their exotic native musical instruments.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Where do I want to go and what foods do I need to try?

Quoted message said:

Toasted Ravioli for an appetizer at any Italian
restaurant.

I've heard this and plan to fit it into what seems like a
fairly crowded schedule.

Quoted message said:

Botanical Garden is on the edge of the Italian community
("The Hill"😉 so plenty of very good Italian food; any
restaurant on "The Hill" is going to be a good choice,
though my favorite is Cunetto's, closely followed by
Rigazzi's. Good Mexican at Chuy Arzola's in "Dogtown".

Like sports celebrity steakhouse? Dierdorf and Hart's or
Mike Shannon's downtown.

Four star? Tony's, also downtown.

Cheap? White Castle or Courtesy Drive-in or, Big Ed'd
Chili Mac Diner (downtown) or OT Hodge Chili Parlor (near
downtown)

Hamburger? Dooley's Pub downtown or O'Connel's pub near
Botanical Garden.

or check out riverfronttimes.comcurrenOpen ↗
t/dining_toc.html and use the search box (lower right of
page) to search by cuisine, neighborhood, etc.

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I expect a full report on my desk in the morning.

Good luck with that; you'd have to leave an email address
for that to happen

<sigh> that's the problem with traveling incognito.
Thanks...

Pastorio

Dog3 said:

Hmmm... depends on what you like. You need to try some
restaurants on The Hill. Maybe hit Tonys. I'm going to be
in town next week. I'd love to meet you for lunch or
dinner. This bonsai convention, is it at the Botanical
Gardens?

The convention will be held at the Renaissance Hotel
adjacent to Lambert St. Louis International Airport. Looks
like Friday evening will be open.

Quoted message said:

My friend Leo may be in from Arizona that week. He does
something every year at the garden about this time. Brian
can help out with this too. You can hit the trendy places
in my old neighborhood, The Central West End. Cafe
Balaban, Zoe's, and Kopperman's Deli. Dressel's Pub is my
favorite burger joint. Then there are several nice spots
in my current neck of the woods. Zinnia comes to mind
immediately. Whatcha' like to do?

Something different than what I do back here in Virginia.
Really open to whatever...

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Michael <- email dog30atcharterdotnet

Dimitri said:

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I'm going to St. Louis, MO. Where do I want to go and what
foods do I need to try?

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Q

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<LOL> Only 235 suggestions for Q? Jeez. Might have to stay
longer than just the weekend; maybe through Thursday...

Thanks

Pastorio

(Nancy Dooley) said:

There's a great steak house - can't remember the name of
it, but a teamster's kid got his legs blown off by the mob
(long time ago) when he was eating there (sit facing the
door LOL). Tony's? Just can't remember.

I think that's the one behind the Mack truck dealership; I
never can remember the name, but the food is good. Used to
see limo's drive up to the door to deliver "da boys" for
their lunch meetings. Buxom, older waitresses.

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Dog3 said:

"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> got [censored] and
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Quoted message said:

I'm going to a bonsai convention in St. Louis, MO next
week and I've never been there before. Where do I want
to go and what foods do I need to try?

I expect a full report on my desk in the morning.

Pastorio

Hmmm... depends on what you like. You need to try some
restaurants on

The

Quoted message said:

Hill. Maybe hit Tonys. I'm going to be in town next week.
I'd love to meet you for lunch or dinner. This bonsai
convention, is it at the Botanical Gardens? My friend Leo
may be in from Arizona that week. He does something every
year at the garden about this time. Brian can help out
with this too. You can hit the trendy places in my old
neighborhood, The Central West End. Cafe Balaban, Zoe's,
and Kopperman's Deli. Dressel's Pub is my favorite burger
joint. Then there are several nice spots in my current
neck of the woods. Zinnia comes to mind immediately.
Whatcha' like to do?

Tucker's in Soulard for cheap but good steaks...and is the
South City Diner still open?

Tucker's is still around and they are good for steaks. South
City Diner is still around.

Quoted message said:

There is that place in Soulard that's a church converted
to a resto...it was famous for a good Sunday brunch...was
(is) it Patty Long's? I know they used to be in Lafayette
Square....

Ninth Street Abbey, I think. I've been twice. Great brunch.

Quoted message said:

Also (depending on the days the OP is there) I'd recommend
a trip to the Soulard Farmer's Market. It's pretty
neat...we don't have anything like it here in Chicago. Say
"Hi" to the live poultry for me if you go ;--)

Oh! Ted Drewe's frozen custard!

Soulard Market is fun. Yes, the live poultry is a trip. We
do Ted Drewe's at work. We order it in all of the time.

Michael
--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

Dog3 dognospam@adjfkdla;not said:

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Hamburger? Dooley's Pub downtown or O'Connel's pub near
Botanical Garden.

We disagree. O'Connel's is highly over rated IMO. I rate
them right up there with Busch's Grove in the "We've
been coming here for generations" category. I'm an ex
Grove person.

I have never had an O'Connel's burger; just reported it as
an option since it is often in the list of the town's "best
burgers" and it is in the neighborhood of the Botanical
Garder, the presumed venue for bonsai convention.

Dog3 dognospam@adjfkdla;not said:

Bob should get plenty of responses. Wanna get together a
mini RFC thingy when he's in town?

I can't make it; I'll be in Charlotte NC next week. Maybe
some future mini RFC get-together

Dog3 said:

Wanna get together a mini RFC thingy when he's in town?

Might be cool. At this point, Friday evening looks best. I
suppose we'll have to start using table manners and stuff
like that.

Me, wife, kid.

Pastorio

Bob (this one) said:

The convention will be held at the Renaissance Hotel
adjacent to Lambert St. Louis International Airport. I'll
have a van. And wife and 12-year-old daughter (who is
cooler than most adults).

Bummer; about the location, not the wife and child. I can't
think of anyplace within several miles of there that would
be worth the effort. In that area you have hotel restaurants
and fast food. Soooooo, plan on driving 10 miles or more to
hit one of the places mentioned earlier.

Dog3 said:

Woo Hoo!! Another Chuy fan. I was there the night they
opened. They ran out of guacamole. I loved the place and
have been going back every since.

I'll second that. I wish they'd bring back chicken
mole though.

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Like sports celebrity steakhouse? Dierdorf and Hart's or
Mike Shannon's downtown.

Never been.

I've not really heard that good of things about either.

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Four star? Tony's, also downtown.

Yep. My parents go there a great deal and sometimes I'm
lucky enough for an invite.

Excellent of course. I also like Kemoll's.

Quoted message said:

We disagree. O'Connel's is highly over rated IMO. I rate
them right up there with Busch's Grove in the "We've
been coming here for generations" category. I'm an ex
Grove person.

I'll have to disagree with you to a certain extent, we've
been going to oakies after games for a long time. However I
don't get burgers there, normally the roast beef or the
roast pork Thursday special.

For burgers, I like Blueberry Hill. Lots of interesting Rock
and Roll memorabilia too.

If you like beer, a good restaurant is St. Louis Brewery &
Tap Room, which is the eatery associated with the Schlafly
brewing operation. They have a myriad of different beers and
good food too.

Brian Rodenborn

Bob (this one) said:

<LOL> Only 235 suggestions for Q? Jeez. Might have to stay
longer than just the weekend; maybe through Thursday...

I used to go to Reynold's when I lived over there in
Normandy. It's pretty good. Beats the hell out of Bandanna's
or Tony Roma's.

Brian Rodenborn

Bob (this one) said:

<LOL> Only 235 suggestions for Q? Jeez. Might have to stay
longer than just the weekend; maybe through Thursday...

Don't bother; St. Louis is clueless about Q

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On 9-Jun-2004, [email hidden] (Nancy

Dooley) said:

There's a great steak house - can't remember the name of
it, but a teamster's kid got his legs blown off by the
mob (long time ago) when he was eating there (sit facing
the door LOL). Tony's? Just can't remember.

I think that's the one behind the Mack truck dealership; I
never can remember the name, but the food is good. Used to
see limo's drive up to the door to deliver "da boys" for
their lunch meetings. Buxom, older waitresses.

God! I can never remember the name of it either. I've been a
couple of times. The SO's father used to frequent the place.
They use finely sliced garlic on their bread and it's
terrific. Their spaghetti is really good too. What in hell
is the name of that place?

Michael

--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968