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The Ogre · 2003-05-12T07:00:17+00:00

On the internet, everything. My Web hosting provider is in the process of going [censored] up and screwing all of their customers on the way down. They allowed my DNS name "ogrehut.com" to expire causing my web site, email, everything to come to a screeching halt. I tried calling them to renew my name but noone answers the phones. No one responds to emails and they don't answer helpdesk requests. I can't transfer the Domain name because they are listed as the administrative contact (Note to self when getting internet names never allow your web hosting provider to be the administrative contact on your domain name). My website is still out there, attached to a random series of numbers but who is going to rember the ogre's website is at "http://64.127.245.45" Good luck. -- The Ogre http://64.127.245.45

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The Ogre
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12 May 2003, 07:00 UTC #1

On the internet, everything. My Web hosting provider is in the process of going [censored] up and screwing
all of their customers on the way down. They allowed my DNS name "ogrehut.com" to expire causing my
web site, email, everything to come to a screeching halt. I tried calling them to renew my name but
noone answers the phones. No one responds to emails and they don't answer helpdesk requests. I can't
transfer the Domain name because they are listed as the administrative contact (Note to self when
getting internet names never allow your web hosting provider to be the administrative contact on
your domain name).
My website is still out there, attached to a random series of numbers but who is going to rember the
ogre's website is at "64.127.245.4564.127.245.45" Good luck.
-- The Ogre 64.127.245.4564.127.245.45

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Coz
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12 May 2003, 13:30 UTC #2

"The Ogre" wrote
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My website is still out there, attached to a random series of numbers but who is going to rember
the ogre's website is at "64.127.245.4564.127.245.45" Good luck.

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You could try using a service like dtdns.net to give your self a temporary domain name that is
redirected to your web-sites ip address (tis also very good if you want to run a website from your
own (un)static ip address at home), the big plus point is that's its free to set up the sort of
account you need 🙂
Ooohhhh just a thought .....No I don't work or have any connection to this Co (though have used it)
Coz

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Penny S.
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12 May 2003, 15:30 UTC #3

The Ogre said:
On the internet, everything. My Web hosting provider is in the process of going [censored] up and
screwing all of their customers on the way down. They allowed my DNS name "ogrehut.com" to expire
causing my web site, email, everything to come to a screeching halt. I tried calling them to renew
my name but noone answers the phones. No one responds to emails and they don't answer helpdesk
requests. I can't transfer the Domain name because they are listed as the administrative contact
(Note to self when getting internet names never allow your web hosting provider to be the
administrative contact on your domain name).
My website is still out there, attached to a random series of numbers but who is going to rember
the ogre's website is at "64.127.245.4564.127.245.45" Good luck.
-- The Ogre 64.127.245.4564.127.245.45
have you contacted someone like networksolutions.comnetworksolutions.com this **I believe** is one of the
main web name managing co's maybe they can help. ( go ahead correct me if I'm wrong) I cam back from
a 3 week trip in Alaska to a similar situation several years ago, my admin contact listed was at the
defunct email but I did get it straightened out.
penny

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Cinder Girl
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12 May 2003, 17:30 UTC #4

"The Ogre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
On the internet, everything. My Web hosting provider is in the process of going [censored] up and
screwing all of their customers on the way down. They allowed my DNS name "ogrehut.com" to expire
causing my web site, email, everything to come to a screeching halt. I tried calling them to renew
my name but noone answers the phones. No one responds to emails and they don't answer helpdesk
requests. I can't transfer the Domain name because they are listed as the administrative contact
(Note to self when getting internet names never allow your web hosting provider to be the
administrative contact on your domain name).
My website is still out there, attached to a random series of numbers but who is going to rember
the ogre's website is at "64.127.245.4564.127.245.45" Good luck.
-- The Ogre 64.127.245.4564.127.245.45
I already grabbed your domain name, but its up on ebay ... you are welcome to bid on it!!

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The Ogre
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12 May 2003, 18:40 UTC #5

"Coz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
"The Ogre" wrote
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Quoted message said:
My website is still out there, attached to a random series of numbers but who is going to rember
the ogre's website is at "64.127.245.4564.127.245.45" Good luck.

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You could try using a service like dtdns.net to give your self a temporary domain name that is
redirected to your web-sites ip address (tis also very good if you want to run a website from your
own (un)static ip address at home), the big plus point is that's its free to set up the sort of
account you need 🙂
Ooohhhh just a thought .....No I don't work or have any connection to this Co (though have
used it)
Coz
I am doing something similar, I will have a new name shortly (probably ogrehut.net). I am mostly
irritated with myself for getting screwed this way. My site isn't the greatest MTB site out there
but IMO it is decent, I have quite a few other sites that link to me and a good flow of traffic from
Google. Now I need to re-establish all of that, notify people etc.
I really Liked my domain name.</whining.>
-- The Ogre 64.127.245.4564.127.245.45 (nameless on the internet)

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Spider
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12 May 2003, 21:00 UTC #6

The Ogre said:
On the internet, everything. My Web hosting provider is in the process of going [censored] up and
screwing all of their customers on the way down. They allowed my DNS name "ogrehut.com" to expire
causing my web site, email, everything to come to a screeching halt. I tried calling them to renew
my name but noone answers the phones. No one responds to emails and they don't answer helpdesk
requests. I can't transfer the Domain name because they are listed as the administrative contact
(Note to self when getting internet names never allow your web hosting provider to be the
administrative contact on your domain name).
My website is still out there, attached to a random series of numbers but who is going to rember
the ogre's website is at "64.127.245.4564.127.245.45" Good luck.
-- The Ogre 64.127.245.4564.127.245.45
Quit spamming this newsgroup, hypocrite 😉
-Spider

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The Ogre
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12 May 2003, 21:30 UTC #7

"Cinder Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
"The Ogre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
On the internet, everything. My Web hosting provider is in the process of going [censored] up and
screwing all of their customers on the way down. They allowed my DNS name "ogrehut.com" to
expire causing my web site, email, everything to come to a screeching halt. I tried calling them
to renew my name but noone answers the phones. No one responds to emails and they don't answer
helpdesk requests. I can't transfer the Domain name because they are listed as the
administrative contact (Note to self when getting internet names never allow your web hosting
provider to be the administrative contact on your domain name).
My website is still out there, attached to a random series of numbers but who is going to rember
the ogre's website is at "64.127.245.4564.127.245.45" Good luck.
-- The Ogre 64.127.245.4564.127.245.45
I already grabbed your domain name, but its up on ebay ... you are welcome to bid on it!!
I assume this you are joking but otherwise, enjoy it. The last thing I would want to do is give
money to someone who would grab up an expired domain name so they can blackmail the original owner.
Chances are my domain name is worthless to anyone else.
-- The Ogre

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The Ogre
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12 May 2003, 21:30 UTC #8

"Penny S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
The Ogre said:
On the internet, everything. My Web hosting provider is in the process of going [censored] up and
screwing all of their customers on the way down. They allowed my DNS name "ogrehut.com" to
expire causing my web site, email, everything to come to a screeching halt. I tried calling them
to renew my name but noone answers the phones. No one responds to emails and they don't answer
helpdesk requests. I can't transfer the Domain name because they are listed as the
administrative contact (Note to self when getting internet names never allow your web hosting
provider to be the administrative contact on your domain name).
My website is still out there, attached to a random series of numbers but who is going to rember
the ogre's website is at "64.127.245.4564.127.245.45" Good luck.

have you contacted someone like networksolutions.comnetworksolutions.com this **I believe** is one of the
main web name managing co's maybe they can help. ( go ahead correct me if I'm wrong) I cam back
from a 3 week trip in Alaska to a similar situation several years ago, my admin contact listed was
at the defunct email but I did get it straightened out.
penny
I will try them but I think where I screwed up was in leaving all the domain contacts under their
name. I tried doing a transfer but the only way that works is if your contact info is the same.
-- The Ogre

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P E T E F A G E
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12 May 2003, 21:30 UTC #9

(The Ogre) said:
Quoted message said:
I already grabbed your domain name, but its up on ebay ... you are welcome to bid on it!!
I assume this you are joking but otherwise, enjoy it. The last thing I would want to do is give
money to someone who would grab up an expired domain name so they can blackmail the original owner.
Chances are my domain name is worthless to anyone else.
I understand that many of the folks in the Shrek groups are going wild and bidding it up.
Better get your bid in soon.

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Penny S.
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12 May 2003, 21:30 UTC #10

The Ogre said:
"Penny S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
The Ogre said:
On the internet, everything. My Web hosting provider is in the process of going [censored] up and
screwing all of their customers on the way down. They allowed my DNS name "ogrehut.com" to
expire causing my web site, email, everything to come to a screeching halt. I tried calling them
to renew my name but noone answers the phones. No one responds to emails and they don't answer
helpdesk requests. I can't transfer the Domain name because they are listed as the
administrative contact (Note to self when getting internet names never allow your web hosting
provider to be the administrative contact on your domain name).
My website is still out there, attached to a random series of numbers but who is going to rember
the ogre's website is at "64.127.245.4564.127.245.45" Good luck.

have you contacted someone like networksolutions.comnetworksolutions.com this **I believe** is one of the
main web name managing co's maybe they can help. ( go ahead correct me if I'm wrong) I cam back
from a 3 week trip in Alaska to a similar situation several years ago, my admin contact listed
was at the defunct email but I did get it straightened out.
penny
I will try them but I think where I screwed up was in leaving all the domain contacts under their
name. I tried doing a transfer but the only way that works is if your contact info is the same.
-- The Ogre
I know when I had to correct the admin email ( dead ISP) it was a real pain, I had to fax copies of
my DL in and so on, I do think there is an 800# somewhere on the site and that eventually you can
get a real person to help you out. If you've paid up, there has to be some sort of record
somewhere.
P.

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Cinder Girl
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12 May 2003, 22:30 UTC #11

"The Ogre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Cinder Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...
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Quoted message said:
"The Ogre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
On the internet, everything. My Web hosting provider is in the process of going [censored] up and
screwing all of their customers on the way down. They allowed my DNS name "ogrehut.com" to
expire causing my web site, email, everything to come to a screeching halt. I tried calling
them to renew my name but noone answers the phones. No one responds to emails and they don't
answer helpdesk requests. I can't transfer the Domain name because they are listed as the
administrative contact (Note to self when getting internet names never allow your web hosting
provider to be the administrative contact on your domain name).
My website is still out there, attached to a random series of numbers but who is going to
rember the ogre's website is at "64.127.245.4564.127.245.45" Good luck.
-- The Ogre 64.127.245.4564.127.245.45
I already grabbed your domain name, but its up on ebay ... you are

welcome
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Quoted message said:
to bid on it!!
I assume this you are joking but otherwise, enjoy it. The last thing I would want to do is give
money to someone who would grab up an expired domain name so they can blackmail the original
owner. Chances are my domain name is worthless to anyone else.
-- The Ogre
Sorry there guy! Totally joking!!

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The Ogre
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13 May 2003, 06:30 UTC #12

Spider <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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The Ogre said:
On the internet, everything. My Web hosting provider is in the process of going [censored] up and
screwing all of their customers on the way down. They allowed my DNS name "ogrehut.com" to
expire causing my web site, email, everything to come to a screeching halt. I tried calling them
to renew my name but noone answers the phones. No one responds to emails and they don't answer
helpdesk requests. I can't transfer the Domain name because they are listed as the
administrative contact (Note to self when getting internet names never allow your web hosting
provider to be the administrative contact on your domain name).
My website is still out there, attached to a random series of numbers but who is going to rember
the ogre's website is at "64.127.245.4564.127.245.45" Good luck.
-- The Ogre 64.127.245.4564.127.245.45
Quit spamming this newsgroup, hypocrite 😉
-Spider
Ouch. I don't think I qualify for spammer status if I ever do please feel free to flame me to your
hearts content.
-- The Ogre ogrehut.netogrehut.net <- New name same content

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The Ogre
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13 May 2003, 07:30 UTC #13

[email hidden] (The Ogre) wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
On the internet, everything. My Web hosting provider is in the process of going [censored] up and
screwing all of their customers on the way down. They allowed my DNS name "ogrehut.com" to expire
causing my web site, email, everything to come to a screeching halt. I tried calling them to renew
my name but noone answers the phones. No one responds to emails and they don't answer helpdesk
requests. I can't transfer the Domain name because they are listed as the administrative contact
(Note to self when getting internet names never allow your web hosting provider to be the
administrative contact on your domain name).
My website is still out there, attached to a random series of numbers but who is going to rember
the ogre's website is at "64.127.245.4564.127.245.45" Good luck.
-- The Ogre 64.127.245.4564.127.245.45
My site is now back up as ogrehut.NET. Hopefully I will get my .com name back running as well. Sorry
to spam the group with my web site woes.
-- The Ogre ogrehut.netogrehut.net <- New name same content.

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Gyp
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13 May 2003, 08:30 UTC #14

The Ogre said:
Ouch. I don't think I qualify for spammer status if I ever do please feel free to flame me to your
hearts content.
-- The Ogre ogrehut.netogrehut.net <- New name same content
Please do not feed the Troll! (Err sorry I mean Orge err)..
<Chuckle

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Gyp
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13 May 2003, 08:30 UTC #15

Cinder Girl said:
Sorry there guy! Totally joking!!
Your evil!!!
<Chuckle

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The Ogre
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13 May 2003, 17:03 UTC #16

P e t e F a g e r l i n <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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(The Ogre) said:
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I already grabbed your domain name, but its up on ebay ... you are welcome to bid on it!!
I assume this you are joking but otherwise, enjoy it. The last thing I would want to do is give
money to someone who would grab up an expired domain name so they can blackmail the original
owner. Chances are my domain name is worthless to anyone else.
I understand that many of the folks in the Shrek groups are going wild and bidding it up.
Better get your bid in soon.
I can only image who would be chasing after petefagerlin.com.
Actually a while ago Fatrac, a local Mountain Bike Trail Advocate Group had a similar problem and
their domain was snatched up and someone put up a bunch of [censored] and asked them for a big chunk of
cash for their name back.
-- The Ogre ogrehut.netogrehut.net

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P E T E F A G E
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13 May 2003, 17:03 UTC #17

On 13 May 2003 09:12:54 -0700, [email hidden] (The Ogre) wrote:
|P e t e F a g e r l i n <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
|> On 12 May 2003 13:58:16 -0700, [email hidden] (The Ogre) wrote:
|>
|>
|> >> I already grabbed your domain name, but its up on ebay ... you are welcome to bid on it!!
|> >
|> >
|> >I assume this you are joking but otherwise, enjoy it. The last thing I would want to do is give
|> >money to someone who would grab up an expired domain name so they can blackmail the original
|> >owner. Chances are my domain name is worthless to anyone else.
|>
|> I understand that many of the folks in the Shrek groups are going wild and bidding it up.
|>
|> Better get your bid in soon.
|
|I can only image who would be chasing after petefagerlin.com.
|
|Actually a while ago Fatrac, a local Mountain Bike Trail Advocate |Group had a similar problem and
their domain was snatched up and |someone put up a bunch of [censored] and asked them for a big chunk of
cash |for their name back.
After seeing what those sanitizers did to Salmon Falls years ago, that's some kind of karma.

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The Ogre
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14 May 2003, 04:30 UTC #18

P e t e F a g e r l i n <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On 13 May 2003 09:12:54 -0700, [email hidden] (The Ogre) wrote:
|P e t e F a g e r l i n <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|> On 12 May 2003 13:58:16 -0700, [email hidden] (The Ogre) wrote:
|>
|> >> I already grabbed your domain name, but its up on ebay ... you are welcome to bid on it!!
|> >
|> >
|> >I assume this you are joking but otherwise, enjoy it. The last thing I would want to do is
|> >give money to someone who would grab up an expired domain name so they can blackmail the
|> >original owner. Chances are my domain name is worthless to anyone else.
|>
|> I understand that many of the folks in the Shrek groups are going wild and bidding it up.
|>
|> Better get your bid in soon.
|
|I can only image who would be chasing after petefagerlin.com.
|
|Actually a while ago Fatrac, a local Mountain Bike Trail Advocate |Group had a similar problem
and their domain was snatched up and |someone put up a bunch of [censored] and asked them for a big
chunk of cash |for their name back.
After seeing what those sanitizers did to Salmon Falls years ago, that's some kind of karma.
I'm not certain how I feel about that, I have only ridden Salmon Falls in it's existing format,
there are still quite a few miles of great singletrack on the top of Flagstaff Hill on the section
called "Mickey Mouse".
I've noticed quite a bit of frustration with advocacy groups like that are affiliated with IMBA such
as Fatrac and ROMP, and with IMBA in general. Do you think these groups are more harm than help? On
the one hand you have people out sanitizing trails and on the other hand they are opening trails and
lobbying to keep trails open to mountain bikers... I would hate to see what they would do to
sanitize Mickey Mouse, or to the Clementine Loop.
-- The Ogre ogrehut.netogrehut.net

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