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  1. Do you drop 100-200 calories from your daily
    allotment or do you up your exercise or both?

    I had been very slowly, but steadily losing on the
    same amount of calories/exercise for quite some
    time. Been stuck for a little over a month, but
    I'm used to eating (and look forward to) the same
    amount of calories. Options: Get the same amount
    of food, but some find lower carb/lower calorie
    things. Or cut 100-200 calories a day. Or up the
    exercise a bit. Or do a little of each.
    Decisions, decisions.

    Marsha/Ohio

  2. It depends on how much I'm already exercising, and if I have the time to do
    more. Mostly though, I would eat less.

    --

    Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

    --
    "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Do you drop 100-200 calories from your daily allotment or do you up your
    exercise or both?

    I had been very slowly, but steadily losing on the same amount of
    calories/exercise for quite some time. Been stuck for a little over a
    month, but I'm used to eating (and look forward to) the same amount of
    calories. Options: Get the same amount of food, but some find lower
    carb/lower calorie things. Or cut 100-200 calories a day. Or up the
    exercise a bit. Or do a little of each. Decisions, decisions.

    Marsha/Ohio

  3. Marsha wrote:
    :: Do you drop 100-200 calories from your daily
    :: allotment or do you up your exercise or both?
    ::
    :: I had been very slowly, but steadily losing on the
    :: same amount of calories/exercise for quite some
    :: time. Been stuck for a little over a month, but
    :: I'm used to eating (and look forward to) the same
    :: amount of calories. Options: Get the same amount
    :: of food, but some find lower carb/lower calorie
    :: things. Or cut 100-200 calories a day. Or up the
    :: exercise a bit. Or do a little of each.
    :: Decisions, decisions.

    For only 100-200 calories, I say up the exercise and hope to increase
    fitness. Or, you can up exercise on one day, eat less the next. Or, do
    more exercise for a week or two, then practice eating less for the next week
    or two. Do what suits you at the time.

  4. Roger Zoul said:

    Marsha wrote:
    :: Do you drop 100-200 calories from your daily
    :: allotment or do you up your exercise or both?

    For only 100-200 calories, I say up the exercise and hope to increase
    fitness. Or, you can up exercise on one day, eat less the next. Or, do
    more exercise for a week or two, then practice eating less for the next week
    or two. Do what suits you at the time.

    Well, none of the options appeal to me much : )
    I'm currently at about 1800 calories/day. The
    thought of eventually having to go down to about
    1400 scares the bejesus out of me. That doesn't
    seem like much, in my book.

    Marsha/Ohio

  5. JC Der Koenig said:

    It depends on how much I'm already exercising, and if I have the time to do
    more. Mostly though, I would eat less.

    The option of finding more low carb/low calorie
    foods seems reasonable, maybe jello. It's
    difficult to get used to putting less in, when
    you've gotten used to a certain amount. Exercise
    is a bit of struggle now, so perhaps I need to
    find something different to do for variety.

    Marsha/Ohio

  6. "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    It depends on how much I'm already exercising, and if I have the time to
    do more. Mostly though, I would eat less.

    The option of finding more low carb/low calorie foods seems reasonable,
    maybe jello. It's difficult to get used to putting less in, when you've
    gotten used to a certain amount. Exercise is a bit of struggle now, so
    perhaps I need to find something different to do for variety.

    You could always go into maintenance mode while you're getting used to your
    new exercise program, and then make a big push for losing weight once you
    have all that sorted out. Another thing that can work is to drop your
    calories for a week and then go back up to 1800 for a week, for alternating
    cycles. You just have to make real sure that 1800 is really your
    maintenance level.

  7. Marsha <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> Roger Zoul wrote:
    :>
    :> > Marsha wrote:
    :> > :: Do you drop 100-200 calories from your daily
    :> > :: allotment or do you up your exercise or both?
    :> >
    :> > For only 100-200 calories, I say up the exercise and hope to
    :> > increase fitness. Or, you can up exercise on one day, eat less
    :> > the next. Or, do more exercise for a week or two, then practice
    :> > eating less for the next week or two. Do what suits you at the
    :> > time.
    :> >
    :>
    :> Well, none of the options appeal to me much : )
    :> I'm currently at about 1800 calories/day. The
    :> thought of eventually having to go down to about
    :> 1400 scares the bejesus out of me. That doesn't
    :> seem like much, in my book.

    You can do 1400 one day then 1800 the next for an average of 1600 of two
    days. It will still take a while, but you can make progress that way. Once
    you do it a few times, you'll lose that fear.

  8. Quoting Roger Zoul:

    Quoted message said:

    Marsha <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> Roger Zoul wrote:
    :> > Marsha wrote:
    :> > :: Do you drop 100-200 calories from your daily
    :> > :: allotment or do you up your exercise or both?
    :> >
    :> > For only 100-200 calories, I say up the exercise and hope to
    :> > increase fitness. Or, you can up exercise on one day, eat less
    :> > the next. Or, do more exercise for a week or two, then practice
    :> > eating less for the next week or two. Do what suits you at the
    :> > time.
    :>
    :> Well, none of the options appeal to me much : )
    :> I'm currently at about 1800 calories/day. The
    :> thought of eventually having to go down to about
    :> 1400 scares the bejesus out of me. That doesn't
    :> seem like much, in my book.

    You can do 1400 one day then 1800 the next for an average of 1600 of two
    days. It will still take a while, but you can make progress that way. Once
    you do it a few times, you'll lose that fear.

    [piggybacking]

    IME, JC's and Roger's suggestions are good, for both physiological and
    psychological reasons. Note that they are similar and both imply some
    sort of cyclical approach. On days (or weeks/weekends) when you eat
    more carbs and/or calories, you would tend to be more anabolic and
    energetic. This can be used to advantage in many exercise programs.
    And, the days that you can actually have a little more to eat keeps
    you sane 🙂

    Are you more of an endurance/cardio type or do you prefer the Iron?

    I don't know where you are in your weight loss, but most women seem to
    have to take it down below 1400 to get those last few pounds off.

  9. Marsha said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    It depends on how much I'm already exercising, and if I have the time
    to do more. Mostly though, I would eat less.

    The option of finding more low carb/low calorie foods seems reasonable,
    maybe jello. It's difficult to get used to putting less in, when you've
    gotten used to a certain amount. Exercise is a bit of struggle now, so
    perhaps I need to find something different to do for variety.

    Marsha/Ohio

    Would it be possible to change the intensity of the exercise
    you're doing in some way? More intensity in the same amount of time?

    A good percentage of the people I see need to change their
    efforts in the gym and not so much the number of days or the time
    spent.

    --
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    "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
    -Emiliano Zapata

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  10. Marsha said:

    Do you drop 100-200 calories from your daily allotment or do you up your
    exercise or both?

    I mix it up some. On days that I am going to be doing cardio in the
    gym, I try to add 20 minutes on the bike to my workout. Other days, I
    try to cut cals some. I also try to "pump up the volume" in terms of
    walking/daily activity by wearing a pedometer.

    Quoted message said:

    I had been very slowly, but steadily losing on the same amount of
    calories/exercise for quite some time. Been stuck for a little over a
    month, but I'm used to eating (and look forward to) the same amount of
    calories. Options: Get the same amount of food, but some find lower
    carb/lower calorie things. Or cut 100-200 calories a day. Or up the
    exercise a bit. Or do a little of each. Decisions, decisions.

    I'd start by wearing a pedometer and being sure that you are drinking
    plenty of fluids.
    --
    jmk in NC

  11. RRzVRR wrote:
    :: Marsha wrote:
    ::
    ::: JC Der Koenig wrote:
    :::
    :::: It depends on how much I'm already exercising, and if I have the
    :::: time to do more. Mostly though, I would eat less.
    ::::
    :::
    ::: The option of finding more low carb/low calorie foods seems
    ::: reasonable, maybe jello. It's difficult to get used to putting
    ::: less in, when you've gotten used to a certain amount. Exercise is
    ::: a bit of struggle now, so perhaps I need to find something
    ::: different to do for variety.
    :::
    ::: Marsha/Ohio
    :::
    ::
    :: Would it be possible to change the intensity of the exercise
    :: you're doing in some way? More intensity in the same amount of time?
    ::
    :: A good percentage of the people I see need to change their
    :: efforts in the gym and not so much the number of days or the time
    :: spent.

    And changing up from time-to-time is good to relieve any boredom that might
    have crept in.

  12. "Marsha" : Do you drop 100-200 calories from your daily
    : allotment or do you up your exercise or both?

    Marsha, I bet you could get an extra 100 to 200 calories if you did some
    stretching exercises in the evening. Instead of sitting an watching TV, do
    some stretching. It doesn't hurt, it isn't hard exercise, but it does use
    calories and it helps make you more limber.

    Pat in TX

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Marsha said:

    Do you drop 100-200 calories from your daily
    allotment or do you up your exercise or both?

    I had been very slowly, but steadily losing on the
    same amount of calories/exercise for quite some
    time. Been stuck for a little over a month, but
    I'm used to eating (and look forward to) the same
    amount of calories. Options: Get the same amount
    of food, but some find lower carb/lower calorie
    things. Or cut 100-200 calories a day. Or up the
    exercise a bit. Or do a little of each.
    Decisions, decisions.

    Marsha/Ohio

    I did both.

    Knocked me off my "stuck point" after about 2 weeks. :-)

    Good luck!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Marsha said:
    Roger Zoul said:

    Marsha wrote:
    :: Do you drop 100-200 calories from your daily
    :: allotment or do you up your exercise or both?

    For only 100-200 calories, I say up the exercise and hope to increase
    fitness. Or, you can up exercise on one day, eat less the next. Or, do
    more exercise for a week or two, then practice eating less for the next
    week
    or two. Do what suits you at the time.

    Well, none of the options appeal to me much : )
    I'm currently at about 1800 calories/day. The
    thought of eventually having to go down to about
    1400 scares the bejesus out of me. That doesn't
    seem like much, in my book.

    Marsha/Ohio

    <shrugs> I dropped back to 800 to 1,000...

    Now that I upped my activity instead, (went from 3 days at the gym per
    week to 5), I plan on upping it back to 1,200.

    I wish I could eat 1,800 and still lose, but there is no way in hell. :-(
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  15. "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Do you drop 100-200 calories from your daily allotment or do you up your
    exercise or both?

    Do you weightlift, Marsha? - if not, a spot of muscle-building might meet
    your goal relatively straightforwardly.

    Nicky.

    --
    A1c 10.5/4.5/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
    1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
    95/76/72Kg

  16. Suze said:
    Quoted message said:

    :> Roger Zoul wrote:
    :> > Marsha wrote:
    :> > :: Do you drop 100-200 calories from your daily
    :> > :: allotment or do you up your exercise or both?
    :> >
    :> > For only 100-200 calories, I say up the exercise and hope to
    :> > increase fitness. Or, you can up exercise on one day, eat less
    :> > the next. Or, do more exercise for a week or two, then practice
    :> > eating less for the next week or two. Do what suits you at the
    :> > time.
    :>
    :> Well, none of the options appeal to me much : )
    :> I'm currently at about 1800 calories/day. The
    :> thought of eventually having to go down to about
    :> 1400 scares the bejesus out of me. That doesn't
    :> seem like much, in my book.

    You can do 1400 one day then 1800 the next for an average of 1600 of two
    days. It will still take a while, but you can make progress that way. Once
    you do it a few times, you'll lose that fear.

    [piggybacking]

    IME, JC's and Roger's suggestions are good, for both physiological and
    psychological reasons. Note that they are similar and both imply some
    sort of cyclical approach. On days (or weeks/weekends) when you eat
    more carbs and/or calories, you would tend to be more anabolic and
    energetic. This can be used to advantage in many exercise programs.
    And, the days that you can actually have a little more to eat keeps
    you sane 🙂

    Are you more of an endurance/cardio type or do you prefer the Iron?

    I don't know where you are in your weight loss, but most women seem to
    have to take it down below 1400 to get those last few pounds off.

    Currently, I do weights 3 days, do some walking in
    between, and nothing on Sundays. I semifast on
    Mondays (one morning meal). I have about 40 lbs.
    to go for initial goal of 140.

    Marsha/Ohio

  17. JC Der Koenig said:

    "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    It depends on how much I'm already exercising, and if I have the time to
    do more. Mostly though, I would eat less.

    The option of finding more low carb/low calorie foods seems reasonable,
    maybe jello. It's difficult to get used to putting less in, when you've
    gotten used to a certain amount. Exercise is a bit of struggle now, so
    perhaps I need to find something different to do for variety.

    You could always go into maintenance mode while you're getting used to your
    new exercise program, and then make a big push for losing weight once you
    have all that sorted out. Another thing that can work is to drop your
    calories for a week and then go back up to 1800 for a week, for alternating
    cycles. You just have to make real sure that 1800 is really your
    maintenance level.

    I will wait two more weeks, just to make sure it's
    not going down (or up). If there is no change,
    then I will do a weekly cycle of 1400 and 1800,
    still semi-fasting on Mondays. I will also add a
    1/2 hour power walk on Sundays. I don't think I'm
    getting enough aerobic exercise.

    Marsha/Ohio

  18. Pat said:

    "Marsha" : Do you drop 100-200 calories from your daily
    : allotment or do you up your exercise or both?

    Marsha, I bet you could get an extra 100 to 200 calories if you did some
    stretching exercises in the evening. Instead of sitting an watching TV, do
    some stretching. It doesn't hurt, it isn't hard exercise, but it does use
    calories and it helps make you more limber.

    Pat in TX


    Heh. We don't watch much TV around here. Like
    Bruce Springsteen sings "57 channels and nothin
    on". SO and I are out in the backyard with nature
    most evenings when it's not wintertime, usually
    with a campfire.

    Marsha/Ohio

  19. "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    "Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    JC Der Koenig wrote:

    >It depends on how much I'm already exercising, and if I have the time to
    >do more. Mostly though, I would eat less.
    >

    The option of finding more low carb/low calorie foods seems reasonable,
    maybe jello. It's difficult to get used to putting less in, when you've
    gotten used to a certain amount. Exercise is a bit of struggle now, so
    perhaps I need to find something different to do for variety.

    You could always go into maintenance mode while you're getting used to
    your new exercise program, and then make a big push for losing weight
    once you have all that sorted out. Another thing that can work is to
    drop your calories for a week and then go back up to 1800 for a week, for
    alternating cycles. You just have to make real sure that 1800 is really
    your maintenance level.

    I will wait two more weeks, just to make sure it's not going down (or up).
    If there is no change, then I will do a weekly cycle of 1400 and 1800,
    still semi-fasting on Mondays. I will also add a 1/2 hour power walk on
    Sundays. I don't think I'm getting enough aerobic exercise.

    Power walks are good, but an hour 4 or 5 times a week would probably have a
    more noticeable effect.

  20. : >
    : Heh. We don't watch much TV around here. Like
    : Bruce Springsteen sings "57 channels and nothin
    : on". SO and I are out in the backyard with nature
    : most evenings when it's not wintertime, usually
    : with a campfire.
    :
    : Marsha/Ohio

    I guess it gets a lot cooler in Ohio in the summertime than it does in
    Texas. You could still stretch yourself out of doors, though. I don't think
    there are rules pertaining to location....

    But, that reminds me of a story....on the inside page of a local newspaper,
    we have what I call a "nanny page" replete with "suggestions" on how to live
    your life. One day, I opened the paper to see this: "Avoid mosquitoes!" I
    slapped my forehead with my palm and said, "D'oh! Why didn't I think of
    that!"

    Pat in TX
    :

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