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  1. I landed this a couple of times, but this was the one that went bad.
    Any good ideas? I keep working on the skills, but I bet a bunch of you
    guys have handled bigger drops. I need all the tips I can get!

    http://tinyurl.com/4v2pt

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  2. 9.2 artistic
    5.5 execution
    7.4 pain factor
    😄

    I don't think the drop got ya ... it was the grade on the hill

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  3. Hmmm.... it kinda looks like your feet slipped off the pedals and it
    also looked like you weren't going fast enough to keep from falling on
    that little hill landing even if you did stay on the pedals.

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  4. steve0we said:

    *... I need all the tips I can get!

    *


    Neosporin ointment helps the abrasions heal a little faster. Ice packs
    on the back muscles initially, then perhaps a heating pad.

    As far as crashes go, I would say that one was perfect. Seldom are
    those caught on video. 😎

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  5. Looks to me like you either bailed or your foot slipped off. Gotta stick
    with it, you're better off staying on than bailing sometimes. Also, land
    with your cranks at 3 and 9 then roll out, yours were around 7:48 and
    whatever the opposite of that is.

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  6. Rather than asking about how to land that drop better, you should be
    asking about how to land that fall better. That was a cool vid, but that
    was an awful landing on the fall. I like to think that if I did the
    exact same fall, the moment the foot came off the pedal I would tuck and
    then be able to roll out of it. Those who rode in Sacramento on the
    Stephens trail may remember me biffing a log twice, hitting the ground
    hard, but smoothly rolling out, so I ended up standing.

    As for what went wrong, starting from the beginning, I will assume that
    the first 2 times you did that drop you didn't go as aggressively at it.
    That time, you just had too much weight on a foot set too far back on
    the pedal, causing it to slip off. Then, rather than tucking and
    rolling, you tried to put your other foot down, causing the face plant.

    I would've gone at that drop as on the first try, I'd do it
    conservatively, just to get a feel for it. Then I'd ride it fast, but I
    think I would've crunched a bit more on it. If I had to do it only once,
    and I wanted cool factor, I'd do a 5'ish lateral rolling hop, so when I
    landed my wheel would be in front of me. You landed with your wheel
    under you.

    One cool thing is your muni bounced a good 2' vertically after you fell.

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  7. I would say, be ready for any type of impact.🙂

    If you are dropping to a downhill, be ready for a roll out. if you are
    not very good with roll outs, make sure to put your weight back so you
    fall backwards, as opposed to what you did😉 and keep your weight on
    the pedals at all times

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  8. It was really hot today, and as the day went on, the dirt got REALLY
    dry. If I landed at 3 and 9, I would slide down the hill. The first
    few times I hit it just as agressive I think, but the dirt had better
    BITE. The roll out is steeper than it looks, and slowing the peddles is
    really tough. Think I am going to switch pedals, and wait till its damp
    out again. A few feet to my left is bigger, but the roll-out is
    steeper. I think I can land that one, but once I do, the rolling speed
    will increase in a hurry.

    Thanks for the help, and scores! The guys on the xtreme downhill bikes
    make it look easy.

    How do I slow down the crank speed just after landing, I will try to
    post a video of me landing it tomorrow, but I dont know if we got it or
    not. My video guy went jogging this morning and got to the drop
    late......

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  9. steve0we said:

    *It was really hot today, and as the day went on, the dirt got REALLY
    dry. If I landed at 3 and 9, I would slide down the hill.*

    Makes no difference. You land at 9 and 3 and your wheel is immediately
    moving because of the combination of you rolling out and the slope
    making you do so. You won't slid out on anything short of ice if you do
    it properly.

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  10. TheObieOne3226 said:

    *Makes no difference. You land at 9 and 3 and your wheel is
    immediately moving because of the combination of you rolling out and
    the slope making you do so. You won't slid out on anything short of
    ice if you do it properly. *

    ...in my experiences...

    I'm no master of drops.

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  11. Dude that was sick... much liked the video. you need one of you landing
    becuase that looks like a really nice spot..

    Chase

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  12. I'm in no position to critique your riding. But I enjoyed watching the
    footage of a spectacular crash! Watch out for those trees! And now I
    know what the "ow" in your name stands for.

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  13. Wow, great video! Thanks for sharing. I don't think I can add anything
    to what others have said so I won't try...except to once again say great
    stack!

    Andrew

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  14. steve0we said:

    *If I landed at 3 and 9, I would slide down the hill.*


    That would depend on what you did as, and after you landed. I don't
    think your pedal position was too bad in the clip, but obviously your
    foot coming off was the major problem.

    Quoted message said:

    *The first few times I hit it just as agressive I think, but the dirt
    had better BITE. The roll out is steeper than it looks,*


    Everything is always steeper than it looks in 2-dimensional playback.
    Doesn't that suck? In other words, we believe you. I would add though,
    that your hit did not appear aggressive to me, outside of the fact that
    you did it. I probably would be chicken. Your rolling up to the edge
    looked pretty tentative, without much momentum. Though you can still
    make a nice, aggressive jump from a standing (hopping) position at the
    top.

    In fact, getting positioned beforet jumping off might help. What I saw
    was your pedals basically stopping once you'd left the ground, and
    staying in the same position until you landed. Your foot may have come
    off because of a less-then-optimum crank angle, but there could be any
    number of other reasons. A 3 and 9 position would probably help, with an
    immediate rollout.

    When riding off of jumps or drops, you don't have to stop pedaling. Just
    keep the pedals turning until they're where you want them. This may take
    some practice to get used to, but I had to learn it in my first year of
    riding to do it on the "jump ramp" in Redford Township Unicycle Club
    performances in 1980.

    Quoted message said:

    *Thanks for the help, and scores! The guys on the xtreme downhill
    bikes make it look easy. *


    Definitely an 8.9 for the landing. Can't give you a score for the drop,
    because you didn't ride out. But that face plant definitely deserves
    style points.

    Like Gerble said, you'll be best served by trying to tuck and roll if
    you know you're going down head-first. This takes practice too, but it's
    worth doing some test runs if you plan to make drops like that. If there
    had been a rock or sharp stick where your face area came down, it could
    have made you ugly.

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  15. Thanks for all the help guys. I will keep working on the learning
    curve, and I will practice the 3 and 9. Does anyone have any good
    footage that I can watch of someone landing drops this size on dirt? It
    is always easier to see someone else do something. and learn from that
    success!

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  16. Ouch.
    Hope your o.k. Steve.
    Jeff

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  17. steve0we said:

    *Does anyone have any good footage that I can watch of someone landing
    drops this size on dirt?*


    Closest thing I can send you to is a series of frames from a video of
    Kris Holm doing a similar style of drop. Go to the muni section of
    www.unicycle.2ya.com .

    Andrew

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  18. Great vid, looks like you kinda got triped up by the uni when you
    slipped. Whenever I am doing any kind of drop I try to have the center
    of my feet on the pedals so my feet have a lot more room if they are
    going to slip and so I don't work my ankles to much when landing. I
    sprained my ankel pretty bad once when doing a drop.

    Nathan

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  19. To me, it seems as though you werent ready for the landing. If you look
    at the Slow-mo part you can see that from the time that you leav the
    gorun to the time you touch it(IE:while you are airborn) your body stays
    in the same postion. You should be ready to absorb all impact a good
    distance from the ground. Your leap position also led your wieght to be
    distributed improperly, which caused your feet to slip off. You can see
    your feet already coming off midair.

    You didn't relax into the impact and absorb it. Plain and simple.

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  20. Humm...the way you kindof shimered in the air is suggesting that you
    were doing this drop on your switch foot.... try the other way around
    just for fun..

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