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  1. Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:

    What is the generic name for this type of bike:
    <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?

    How are they to ride, or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
    make a better utility bike?

    Does anyone export them to North America? For some reason I want one [2].

    [1] As "Legs Larry" might put it.
    [2] Must be from watching 3-decade old "Open All Hours" reruns.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

    --
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  2. Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:

    Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:

    What is the generic name for this type of bike:
    <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?

    Often referred to as a "butcher's bike" or simply a delivery bike. Not
    sure there's a generic term as such.

    --
    Ace in Basel - brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom

  3. Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said the following on 20/07/2007 13:07:

    Quoted message said:

    What is the generic name for this type of bike:
    <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?

    Butcher's bike or tradesman's bike.

    Quoted message said:

    How are they to ride, or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
    make a better utility bike?

    No idea what they ride like, but only you can know why on earth you want
    one :-)

    Bucket panniers???

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  4. Paul Boyd said:

    Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said the following on 20/07/2007 13:07:

    Quoted message said:

    What is the generic name for this type of bike:
    <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?

    Butcher's bike or tradesman's bike.

    Quoted message said:

    How are they to ride, or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
    make a better utility bike?

    No idea what they ride like, but only you can know why on earth you want
    one :-)

    All the best bicycles have a front wheel that is smaller than the back. 😉

    Quoted message said:

    Bucket panniers???

    See <http://www.cobbworks.com/>.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

    --
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  5. Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:

    Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:

    What is the generic name for this type of bike:
    <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?

    How are they to ride, or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
    make a better utility bike?

    Trades Bike. When I were a lad my mate's family ran a newsagents and
    had a bunch of these for deliveries. Great for carrying a heavy
    fishing box, or one of your mates. Those ones were black and
    seriously built to last, even if they're in landfill now I bet they'd
    still be rideable with a squirt of oil on the chain. The carrier made
    a good battering ram for random acts of vandalism and stupidity such
    as bike jousting.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, Johnny Sunset
    aka Tom Sherman
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:

    What is the generic name for this type of bike:
    <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?

    Tradesman's bike, carrier bike, butcher's bike ...

    Quoted message said:


    How are they to ride,

    OK if you only need three speed hub gears, and as long as you're not
    carrying a heavy load down long steep hills: the brakes can get rather
    hot, and the loaded weight distribution isn't optimal for braking. It's
    a bit unnerving that the rack doesn't move when you turn the bars, and
    that it hides the front wheel so you can't tell quite where that
    rock/pothole is.

    Quoted message said:

    or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
    make a better utility bike?

    Depends what you're using it for. Why did you choose that one over the
    Pashley Pronto or Courier?

    Quoted message said:


    Does anyone export them to North America? For some reason I want one [2].

    Apparently these people import Pashleys:
    http://www.northroadbicycle.com/us.html

  7. Rob Morley said:

    ...
    Depends what you're using it [Pashley Delibike] for. Why did you choose
    that one over the Pashley Pronto or Courier?...

    The modern style of the Pronto and Courier is less appealing than the
    traditional Delibike and Courier Classic. The Delibike appears to be the
    better choice for bulky items, since the small front wheel allows for a
    deeper front basket.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  8. in message <[email hidden]>, Johnny Sunset aka

    Tom Sherman (') said:

    Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:

    What is the generic name for this type of bike:
    <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?

    How are they to ride, or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
    make a better utility bike?

    That style is generally known as a 'butcher's bike'.

    They're quite heavy - not good for hilly terrain. But on the flat they
    handle fine. Good for making large numbers of small deliveries (or,
    equally, for buying small purchases in a number of shops).

    The Royal Mail use a more modern-looking version of the same thing, also
    made by Pashley: http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/mailstar.html

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
    ;; Voltaire RIP Dr David Kelly 1945-2004

  9. Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:

    Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:

    What is the generic name for this type of bike:
    <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?

    How are they to ride, or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
    make a better utility bike?

    delivery bike or (as others have said, butchers or bakers bike.

    Don't Pashley have a US distributor?

    I hope to inherit one one day from my father-in-law. My wife used to
    ride in the basket when it belonged to his step father

    best wishes
    james

  10. POHB said:


    Trades Bike. When I were a lad my mate's family ran a newsagents and
    had a bunch of these for deliveries. Great for carrying a heavy
    fishing box, or one of your mates. Those ones were black and
    seriously built to last, even if they're in landfill now I bet they'd
    still be rideable with a squirt of oil on the chain. The carrier made
    a good battering ram for random acts of vandalism and stupidity such
    as bike jousting.

    I should also add that, at least when I was last in Blighty, bikes like
    this commanded a pretty good price in the second-hand cycle market, which
    reflects their value as tools as well as their remarkable durability.

    --
    Luigi de Guzman
    http://ouij.livejournal.com

  11. Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:

    Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin

    A colony of what??1!

  12. landotter' the Swede said:
    Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:

    Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin

    A colony of what??1!

    "Merkin" is now widely used on Usenet to designate Americans (especially
    by non-Americans): <http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxmerkin.html>
    (last sentence on page).

    Please keep your mind out of the gutter. 😉

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  13. In article <[email hidden]>, Johnny Sunset
    aka Tom Sherman
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Rob Morley said:

    ...
    Depends what you're using it [Pashley Delibike] for. Why did you choose
    that one over the Pashley Pronto or Courier?...

    The modern style of the Pronto and Courier is less appealing than the
    traditional Delibike and Courier Classic. The Delibike appears to be the
    better choice for bulky items, since the small front wheel allows for a
    deeper front basket.


    I'd tend to agree with both points. I wonder how the trade-off between
    C-of-G and ride quality balances out - does the modern post bike work
    better, or is it just more convenient to have same-size wheels? I guess
    you're taking about heavier loads than the average postie carries.

  14. Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:
    landotter' the Swede said:
    Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:

    Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin

    A colony of what??1!

    "Merkin" is now widely used on Usenet to designate Americans (especially
    by non-Americans): <http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxmerkin.html>
    (last sentence on page).

    Please keep your mind out of the gutter. 😉


    Must admit that was my first thought when Merkin was mentioned.

  15. Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Johnny Sunset
    aka Tom Sherman
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Rob Morley said:

    ...
    Depends what you're using it [Pashley Delibike] for. Why did you choose
    that one over the Pashley Pronto or Courier?...

    The modern style of the Pronto and Courier is less appealing than the
    traditional Delibike and Courier Classic. The Delibike appears to be the
    better choice for bulky items, since the small front wheel allows for a
    deeper front basket.


    I'd tend to agree with both points. I wonder how the trade-off between
    C-of-G and ride quality balances out - does the modern post bike work
    better, or is it just more convenient to have same-size wheels? I guess
    you're taking about heavier loads than the average postie carries.

    be 16KG on the front maybe a few KG more as your not carring in but
    using the bike, and maybe 10KG per the panniers.

    ex postie though as hilly area never did it on bike.

    roger
    --
    www.rogermerriman.com

  16. (Roger Merriman) said:

    be 16KG on the front maybe a few KG more as your not carring in but
    using the bike, and maybe 10KG per the panniers.

    ex postie though as hilly area never did it on bike.

    roger

    I had hills 🙁 & a bike 🙁(
    not alowed to take more then 16 on the front & 16 on the back
    more often than not I went out with 25+ on both
    that's not to say the ride was smooth ... but they'll take the weight

  17. (Roger Merriman) said:

    must of had to do a few runs though? or get further bags dropped off?
    50KG would be a fairly light round.

    roger

    yea 5 more or so bags dropped off ... 50Kg would be a paper round

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