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what is proper saddle height?

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  1. Hey gang!
    I need to know what is the proper saddle height for street riding verus
    muni.
    The stock Coker I have has 3 seat size: short(4inches), medium(8inches),
    and long(12inches). From the beginning I used the short cause of the
    shear size of the Coker. But today I switched to the medium length and
    noticed few things:
    -It is now heck ALOT difficult to static mount(had to use wall to
    mount)
    -My cadence/spin was MUCH smoother, resulting in faster rpm and
    speed(think I can actually do 15mph now!)
    -When my foot is on the 6-oclock position, my leg is almost straight. Is
    this a good thing?

    I usually mount on aspalt/concrete road but today for the first time
    tried static mount on gravel/sandy horse-trail. To my dismay, I could
    not static mount AT ALL!
    When I jump to mount the uni, it would be moving away from me. The wheel
    kept moving forward or sideways! Grrrrrr!! 😠

    I practice daily so I can muni someday, and this was quite a setback
    knowing I cannot static mount while muni on some trail. I would have to
    look for the nearest tree or ask a hiker so I can mount my
    Coker(strange picture there 🙄

    Should I SHORTEN my saddle height when muni and LENGTHEN it when I ride
    on the streets?

    Thanks!

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  2. Genreally, yes. For max speed i think you want your legs almost straight
    at the 6 oclock position. For Muni you need to be able to stand off the
    saddle, either just slightly (to negotiate rough ground) or alot if
    you're going to actually hop over stuff on it. Obviously your speed will
    suffer slightly frm this lower saddle position, but that's the deal.

    Dave

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  3. For long road rides you want the saddle up higher. It's much easier on
    the knees. Doing a lot of long road rides with the saddle too low could
    cause you some knee ligament pain or tendinitis pain.

    For road rides I put the saddle up so that my legs are almost straight
    at the low 6 o'clock position. Put your heels on the pedals. Hang on
    to a wall for support. Pedal a full revolution. Your legs should be
    almost straight at the 6 o'clock position without you needing to rock
    your hips. If your hips are rocking then the seat is too high. Then
    when you pedal normally the ball of your foot will be over the pedal and
    your legs will have the proper slight bend in them. That's basically
    the same way you determine the proper seat height for a bicycle.

    For muni you lower it a little bit so you don't get bounced off the
    saddle and so you can levitate over the saddle when it gets bumpy. But
    mind the knees. Lowering the saddle is harder on the knees.

    You'll get the hang of mounting with the seat in the higher position.
    You just have to jump a little higher. Learning the rolling mount
    (where you take a couple of steps before jumping up to the pedals) will
    help. Doing a jump mount is also an option.

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  4. yes, but make sure the saddle is not too high on the jump mount.
    otherwise you'll land groin on to the saddle while your feet can't reach
    the pedals. ouch.

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  5. Great advice from John Childs (as usual). I will add a bit of experience
    from my years of big-wheeling. Before I had a Coker I had a hard-tire,
    45" wheel. I could ride it with the seat up pretty high, which was great
    for long distance. But since the tire has no "give" in it, even little
    bumps (like running over a 3/4" diameter rock you didn't notice) will
    bounce you upward if you're not ready. I've been taken down by a 3/4"
    rock if I hit it with my feet at the 6 & 12 o'clock positions. Ouch. So
    I always kept my big wheel's seat a tad lower than I would on another
    uni.

    On my Coker, because the tire will absorb that 3/4" rock much better, I
    don't have the same need to lower the seat. But I still keep it a tad
    lower than I would on a smaller wheel. This is because of the higher
    height, and higher speed, of that cycle.

    My Coker commute to work includes several stretches of dirt. I take it
    easy on those, as my seat is relatively high for those sections. Mostly
    what I notice is my cranks being too short for the dirt. But yes,
    optimally your seat should be at least an inch or so lower for riding on
    dirt.

    Then just practice. If you're mounting with your pedals anywhere other
    than vertical, you should have plenty of leg extension to make the
    mount. Even a suicide mount!

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  6. Thanks for those ideas.
    I have tried the rolling mount before but favor the static mount because
    it was more 'controlled.' The problem I am having with static mount now
    is; I don't have enough momentum to get past the 'peak' on my Coker. So
    guess I will have to try rolling mount again.

    One other side note; I have trouble mounting after riding few miles
    and/or after UPD. It takes me about 5-7times to mount again, so I tried
    yelling to myself "Come on! Do it! Let's go! LET'S GO!!" And this
    worked!
    I had psyched/pumped myself.
    Is this what some unicyclist mean by "just go for it"?

    Thanks for all the great advices!

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  7. If you want another workable alternative to the rolling mount on to a
    coker with the seat set high a suggest the use of a "helping hand".

    It IS possible to static mount a coker by grabbing the wheel with your
    hand forward of the frame and then using both your legs and the hand to
    help you mount. Your hand is there mainly to prevent the wheel from
    rotating while you step up into position. It means you can apply more
    force with your legs without having to worry about the extra force
    rotating the wheel back into a dead position.

    I hope that explanation makes sense.

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