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  1. I watched the Challenge program on the Food Network today. The subject
    was macaroni-and-cheese inspired dishes. One of the judges was Barbara
    Lynch of "Number 9 Park" in Boston. She was extremely critical,
    demanding and even hostile towards the competing chefs, For example,
    in the first round she scored 2 chefs very low because they looked
    nervous in the kitchen.

    In the second round, 4 chefs used dried pasta for their dishes, while
    the 5th (one of the two "nervous" ones) used fresh gnocchi made that
    day by a local fresh pasta company. During preparation, Barbara
    assaulted him for not naking the gnocchi himself during the short
    allotted time of preparation. When the judging time came, she again
    devoted almost her entire comment to belittling the chef for not
    making his gnocchi from scratch. Here I quote verbatum:

    "I feel that I would make my own gnocchi if I had he opportunity to.
    Takes 15 minutes... ", etc.

    First of all, what's her secret? How does she make the gnocchi from
    scratch in 15 minutes? It would take me more than 15 minuts just to
    cook potatoes, unless I was to use a microwave...

    Second. This chef received a very low score. The other 4 contestants
    used dried pasta from a bag, but received no negative comments about
    thier pasta not being self-made and got higher scores, with 2
    receiving alnost-perfect scores.

    My question is: Am I mistaken? Is Barbara Lynch right in believing
    that when you use dried pasta, you are making pasta from scratch?

  2. said...

    Quoted message said:

    My question is: Am I mistaken?

    Yeah.

    Andy

  3. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    Here I quote verbatum:

    Quoted message said:


    "I feel that I would make my own gnocchi if I had he opportunity to.
    Takes 15 minutes... ", etc.

    First of all, what's her secret? How does she make the gnocchi from
    scratch in 15 minutes? It would take me more than 15 minuts just to
    cook potatoes, unless I was to use a microwave...

    Perhaps she's used to having others do the mis en place? AND the clean-up,
    don't forget ;-)
    Dee Dee

  4. Dee Dee said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    Here I quote verbatum:

    Quoted message said:


    "I feel that I would make my own gnocchi if I had he opportunity to.
    Takes 15 minutes... ", etc.

    First of all, what's her secret? How does she make the gnocchi from
    scratch in 15 minutes? It would take me more than 15 minuts just to
    cook potatoes, unless I was to use a microwave...

    Perhaps she's used to having others do the mis en place? AND the
    clean-up, don't forget ;-)
    Dee Dee

    Even cooking the potatoes in a microwave it would take longer than 15
    minutes. (And I don't consider cooking the potatoes part of the mis en
    place.)

  5. jmcquown said:

    Even cooking the potatoes in a microwave it would take longer than 15
    minutes. (And I don't consider cooking the potatoes part of the mis
    en place.)

    She's probably using the famous "already cooked potatoes" who grow only on
    the famous "already cooked potato trees" (and don't try to make me believe
    potatoes grow up under the ground).
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

  6. Vilco said:
    jmcquown said:

    Even cooking the potatoes in a microwave it would take longer than 15
    minutes. (And I don't consider cooking the potatoes part of the mis
    en place.)

    She's probably using the famous "already cooked potatoes" who grow
    only on the famous "already cooked potato trees" (and don't try to
    make me believe potatoes grow up under the ground).

    ROFL That must be it! Why on earth didn't I think of that before?! Thank
    you for clearing that up, Vilco. It was going to worry me all day. 😉

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    My question is: Am I mistaken? Is Barbara Lynch right in believing
    that when you use dried pasta, you are making pasta from scratch?

    She sounds like an ignoramus. But remember, some of these competition
    shows, and not only cooking, make a point of having the judges be harsh
    and rude. It attracts the kind of viewers - most of them apparently -
    who aren't interested in learning about cooking but get a charge out of
    seeing someone be insulted and humiliated.

    And no, cooking dried pasta is not making from scratch!

    --
    Peter Aitken

  8. Peter A said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    My question is: Am I mistaken? Is Barbara Lynch right in believing
    that when you use dried pasta, you are making pasta from scratch?

    She sounds like an ignoramus. But remember, some of these competition
    shows, and not only cooking, make a point of having the judges be harsh
    and rude. It attracts the kind of viewers - most of them apparently -
    who aren't interested in learning about cooking but get a charge out of
    seeing someone be insulted and humiliated.

    They apparently attract quite a few viewers who post here. I'd much
    rather watch reruns of The French Chef or even The Galloping Gourmet,
    though I really wouldn't watch that either. I saw Hell's Kitchen a
    couple of times out of morbid curiosity. That was enough.

    Quoted message said:


    And no, cooking dried pasta is not making from scratch!

    No, it is not. I never make pasta from scratch unless it's egg pasta.
    Mmmm. I starting to feel inspired.

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Peter Aitken

    --Bryan

  9. email hidden said:

    I didn't see the show, I don't know who this woman is, but I'm sure
    going to watch it next time.

    I've never even heard of the show, but I wouldn't watch it based on
    this [censored]. She reminds me of my old boss <a micromanager> who always
    second guessed what everyone did and it they didn't do things exactly
    the way she *imagined* she would have done it, they were wrong.

    BL must be a real "sweetie" to work for. <gag> :P

    Quoted message said:

    My sister's mother-in-law has been
    making gnochhi for 50 years and I think she'd like to punch BL in the
    face for saying it takes 15 minutes.


    I agree.

    Quoted message said:

    Just another example of a know-it-all who doesn't know anything.

    Oh, yeah. Big time.
    --

    History is a vast early warning system
    Norman Cousins

  10. On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:04:35 -0700, Bobo Bonobo® <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    They apparently attract quite a few viewers who post here. I'd much
    rather watch reruns of The French Chef or even The Galloping Gourmet,
    though I really wouldn't watch that either. I saw Hell's Kitchen a
    couple of times out of morbid curiosity. That was enough.

    AGREED! I haven't even heard of the show in question and it didn't
    take me more than once to decide that Hell''s Kitchen was a bunch of
    cr*p.
    --

    History is a vast early warning system
    Norman Cousins

  11. Quoted message said:

    My question is: Am I mistaken? Is Barbara Lynch right in believing
    that when you use dried pasta, you are making pasta from scratch?

    No, she is wrong if that is her assertion.

    But the difference between fresh and dried isn't how
    long ago it was made, it's whether it's dried or not.

    So the gnocchi were fresh and the dried was not scratch.

    She sounds like a [censored], though.

    --Blair

  12. sf said:

    On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:04:35 -0700, Bobo Bonobo® <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    They apparently attract quite a few viewers who post here. I'd much
    rather watch reruns of The French Chef or even The Galloping Gourmet,
    though I really wouldn't watch that either. I saw Hell's Kitchen a
    couple of times out of morbid curiosity. That was enough.

    AGREED! I haven't even heard of the show in question and it didn't
    take me more than once to decide that Hell''s Kitchen was a bunch of
    cr*p.

    LOL But Gordon is so entertaining! And in the end, the winner actually
    does get something... head chef in a 5 star resort ain't too shabby if you
    want to deal with all that goes with it 🙂

  13. Vilco said:


    jmcquown said:

    Even cooking the potatoes in a microwave it would take longer than 15
    minutes. (And I don't consider cooking the potatoes part of the mis
    en place.)

    She's probably using the famous "already cooked potatoes" who grow only on
    the famous "already cooked potato trees" (and don't try to make me believe
    potatoes grow up under the ground).
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

    Hey if spaghetti can grow on trees, a la the famous BBC spoof in the
    1950s, then surely 'already cooked potatoes' must be available on trees.
    Just like money LOL!

  14. YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    i just watched the same food network program on mac n cheese. i don't
    even know these chefs, but i felt so bad for them. that barbara lynch
    has NO right making the comments she made to the contestants. i wish i
    was there so i could've told her off. i don't care if you're a judge
    there's just somethings that you don't say when judging food these
    people tried so hard to create. i don't know this barbara lynch and
    from how she comes off i wouldn't even want to know her or her food.
    food is about passion and love for cooking and eating, but when u get
    people like this just bagging on your food she's bagging on you and
    your personality which is messed up. she should worry less about
    cooking and food and worry about being more like a human being. i BET
    ANYTHING that her whole restaurant staff must hate her because i can
    only image what she is like in the kitchen. who knows her food might
    be good, but i will never get the chance to taste it because i will
    NEVER eat her food because someone that can be that rude and
    inconsiderate doesn't deserve my business or anyone elses. i would
    like them to make another episode where barbara lynch makes mac and
    cheese and let all the contestants judge her food and be as critical
    as she was. how would that make YOU feel barbara, probably not that
    great. to food network: fyi: u shouldn't probably invite her back to
    be a guest judge cuz it's bad for business.

    Quoted message said:

    I watched the Challenge program on the Food Network today. The subject
    was macaroni-and-cheese inspired dishes. One of the judges was Barbara
    Lynch of "Number 9 Park" in Boston. She was extremely critical,
    demanding and even hostile towards the competing chefs, For example,
    in the first round she scored 2 chefs very low because they looked
    nervous in the kitchen.

    In the second round, 4 chefs used dried pasta for their dishes, while
    the 5th (one of the two "nervous" ones) used fresh gnocchi made that
    day by a local fresh pasta company. During preparation, Barbara
    assaulted him for not naking the gnocchi himself during the short
    allotted time of preparation. When the judging time came, she again
    devoted almost her entire comment to belittling the chef for not
    making his gnocchi from scratch. Here I quote verbatum:

    "I feel that I would make my own gnocchi if I had he opportunity to.
    Takes 15 minutes... ", etc.

    First of all, what's her secret? How does she make the gnocchi from
    scratch in 15 minutes? It would take me more than 15 minuts just to
    cook potatoes, unless I was to use a microwave...

    Second. This chef received a very low score. The other 4 contestants
    used dried pasta from a bag, but received no negative comments about
    thier pasta not being self-made and got higher scores, with 2
    receiving alnost-perfect scores.

    My question is: Am I mistaken? Is Barbara Lynch right in believing
    that when you use dried pasta, you are making pasta from scratch?

  15. sf said:

    On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:30:26 -0700, "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:

    I didn't see the show, I don't know who this woman is, but I'm sure
    going to watch it next time.

    I've never even heard of the show, but I wouldn't watch it based on
    this [censored]. She reminds me of my old boss <a micromanager> who always
    second guessed what everyone did and it they didn't do things exactly
    the way she *imagined* she would have done it, they were wrong.

    BL must be a real "sweetie" to work for. <gag> :P

    Quoted message said:

    My sister's mother-in-law has been
    making gnochhi for 50 years and I think she'd like to punch BL in the
    face for saying it takes 15 minutes.

    I agree.

    Quoted message said:

    Just another example of a know-it-all who doesn't know anything.

    Oh, yeah. Big time.
    --

    History is a vast early warning system
    Norman Cousins

    I watched the show and that wasn't the only cheap shot BL took.
    She said that one of the chefs was "uncomfortable" with the
    ingredients.
    The chef responded that she works with the ingredients daily and knew
    what she was doing.

    I'm glad that the chef who made the gnocchi recipe pointed out that BL
    doesn't make her own recipes from scratch in her own restaurant.
    ..
    She shouldn't be a judge in a professional competition until she
    knows what she is doing herself.

  16. On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:15:51 -0700, "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:


    I watched the show and that wasn't the only cheap shot BL took.
    She said that one of the chefs was "uncomfortable" with the
    ingredients.
    The chef responded that she works with the ingredients daily and knew
    what she was doing.

    I'm glad that the chef who made the gnocchi recipe pointed out that BL
    doesn't make her own recipes from scratch in her own restaurant.
    .
    She shouldn't be a judge in a professional competition until she
    knows what she is doing herself.

    Haven't we all had bosses like that? They pretend to be total
    authorities on what we do even those their expertise isn't even close
    to ours.
    --

    History is a vast early warning system
    Norman Cousins

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