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  1. Clipped from the following location:

    http://www.niams.nih.gov/hi/topics/fibromyalgia/fibrofs.htm#fib_a

    What Is Fibromyalgia?

    Fibromyalgia syndrome is a common and chronic disorder characterized by
    widespread muscle pain, fatigue, and multiple tender points. The word
    fibromyalgia comes from the Latin term for fibrous tissue (fibro) and
    the Greek ones for muscle (myo) and pain (algia). Tender points are
    specific places on the body—on the neck, shoulders, back, hips, and
    upper and lower extremities—where people with fibromyalgia feel pain in
    response to slight pressure.

    Although fibromyalgia is often considered an arthritisrelated condition,
    it is not truly a form of arthritis (a disease of the joints) because it
    does not cause inflammation or damage to the joints, muscles, or other
    tissues. Like arthritis, however, fibromyalgia can cause significant
    pain and fatigue, and it can interfere with a person's ability to carry
    on daily activities. Also like arthritis, fibromyalgia is considered a
    rheumatic condition.

    You may wonder what exactly rheumatic means. Even physicians do not
    always agree on whether a disease is considered rheumatic. If you look
    up the word in the dictionary, you'll find it comes from the Greek word
    rheum, which means flux—not an explanation that gives you a better
    understanding. In medicine, however, the term rheumatic means a medical
    condition that impairs the joints and/or soft tissues and causes chronic
    pain.

    In addition to pain and fatigue, people who have fibromyalgia may experience

    * sleep disturbances,
    * morning stiffness,
    * headaches,
    * irritable bowel syndrome,
    * painful menstrual periods,
    * numbness or tingling of the extremities,
    * restless legs syndrome,
    * temperature sensitivity,
    * cognitive and memory problems (sometimes referred to as "fibro
    fog"😉, or
    * a variety of other symptoms.

    Fibromyalgia is a syndrome rather than a disease. Unlike a disease,
    which is a medical condition with a specific cause or causes and
    recognizable signs and symptoms, a syndrome is a collection of signs,
    symptoms, and medical problems that tend to occur together but are not
    related to a specific, identifiable cause.

    Who Gets Fibromyalgia?

    According to a paper published by the American College of Rheumatology
    (ACR), fibromyalgia affects 3 to 6 million - or as many as one in 50 -
    Americans. For unknown reasons, between 80 and 90 percent of those
    diagnosed with fibromyalgia are women; however, men and children also
    can be affected. Most people are diagnosed during middle age, although
    the symptoms often become present earlier in life.

    People with certain rheumatic diseases, such as rheumatoid arthritis,
    systemic lupus erythematosus (commonly called lupus), or ankylosing
    spondylitis (spinal arthritis) may be more likely to have fibromyalgia, too.

    Several studies indicate that women who have a family member with
    fibromyalgia are more likely to have fibromyalgia themselves, but the
    exact reason for this—whether it be hereditary or caused by
    environmental factors or both—is unknown. One study supported by the
    National Institute of Arthritis and Musculoskeletal and Skin Diseases
    (NIAMS) is trying to identify if certain genes predispose some people to
    fibromyalgia. (See What Are Researchers Learning About Fibromyalgia?)

    What Causes Fibromyalgia?

    The causes of fibromyalgia are unknown, but there are probably a number
    of factors involved. Many people associate the development of
    fibromyalgia with a physically or emotionally stressful or traumatic
    event, such as an automobile accident. Some connect it to repetitive
    injuries. Others link it to an illness. People with rheumatoid arthritis
    and other autoimmune diseases, such as lupus, are particularly likely to
    develop fibromyalgia. For others, fibromyalgia seems to occur spontaneously.

    Many researchers are examining other causes, including problems with how
    the central nervous system (the brain and spinal cord) processes pain.

    Some scientists speculate that a person's genes may regulate the way his
    or her body processes painful stimuli. According to this theory, people
    with fibromyalgia may have a gene or genes that cause them to react
    strongly to stimuli that most people would not perceive as painful.
    However, those genes—if they, in fact, exist—have not been identified.

    (More information at the above site)

    George

  2. So where's the part about it being the same as hypochondria? 🙂

    --
    Sheli

  3. George Parton wrote:
    |
    <snip off-topic stuff>

    I think you posted this in the wrong newsgroup by mistake. This is
    alt.support.diet.low-carb.
    --
    Peter
    270/215/180
    Before/Current Pix:
    http://users.thelink.net/marengo/weightlosspix/weightlosspix.html

  4. "George Parton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Clipped from the following location:

    http://www.niams.nih.gov/hi/topics/fibromyalgia/fibrofs.htm#fib_a

    What Is Fibromyalgia?

    Fibromyalgia syndrome is a common and chronic disorder characterized by
    widespread muscle pain, fatigue, and multiple tender points. The word
    fibromyalgia comes from the Latin term for fibrous tissue (fibro) and
    the Greek ones for muscle (myo) and pain (algia). Tender points are
    specific places on the body—on the neck, shoulders, back, hips, and
    upper and lower extremities—where people with fibromyalgia feel pain in
    response to slight pressure.

    Although fibromyalgia is often considered an arthritisrelated condition,
    it is not truly a form of arthritis (a disease of the joints) because it
    does not cause inflammation or damage to the joints, muscles, or other
    tissues. Like arthritis, however, fibromyalgia can cause significant
    pain and fatigue, and it can interfere with a person's ability to carry
    on daily activities. Also like arthritis, fibromyalgia is considered a
    rheumatic condition.

    You may wonder what exactly rheumatic means. Even physicians do not
    always agree on whether a disease is considered rheumatic. If you look
    up the word in the dictionary, you'll find it comes from the Greek word
    rheum, which means flux—not an explanation that gives you a better
    understanding. In medicine, however, the term rheumatic means a medical
    condition that impairs the joints and/or soft tissues and causes chronic
    pain.

    In addition to pain and fatigue, people who have fibromyalgia may


    experience

    Quoted message said:


    * sleep disturbances,
    * morning stiffness,
    * headaches,
    * irritable bowel syndrome,
    * painful menstrual periods,
    * numbness or tingling of the extremities,
    * restless legs syndrome,
    * temperature sensitivity,
    * cognitive and memory problems (sometimes referred to as "fibro
    fog"😉, or
    * a variety of other symptoms.

    Fibromyalgia is a syndrome rather than a disease. Unlike a disease,
    which is a medical condition with a specific cause or causes and
    recognizable signs and symptoms, a syndrome is a collection of signs,
    symptoms, and medical problems that tend to occur together but are not
    related to a specific, identifiable cause.

    Who Gets Fibromyalgia?

    According to a paper published by the American College of Rheumatology
    (ACR), fibromyalgia affects 3 to 6 million - or as many as one in 50 -
    Americans. For unknown reasons, between 80 and 90 percent of those
    diagnosed with fibromyalgia are women; however, men and children also
    can be affected. Most people are diagnosed during middle age, although
    the symptoms often become present earlier in life.

    People with certain rheumatic diseases, such as rheumatoid arthritis,
    systemic lupus erythematosus (commonly called lupus), or ankylosing
    spondylitis (spinal arthritis) may be more likely to have fibromyalgia,


    too.

    Quoted message said:


    Several studies indicate that women who have a family member with
    fibromyalgia are more likely to have fibromyalgia themselves, but the
    exact reason for this—whether it be hereditary or caused by
    environmental factors or both—is unknown. One study supported by the
    National Institute of Arthritis and Musculoskeletal and Skin Diseases
    (NIAMS) is trying to identify if certain genes predispose some people to
    fibromyalgia. (See What Are Researchers Learning About Fibromyalgia?)

    What Causes Fibromyalgia?

    The causes of fibromyalgia are unknown, but there are probably a number
    of factors involved. Many people associate the development of
    fibromyalgia with a physically or emotionally stressful or traumatic
    event, such as an automobile accident. Some connect it to repetitive
    injuries. Others link it to an illness. People with rheumatoid arthritis
    and other autoimmune diseases, such as lupus, are particularly likely to
    develop fibromyalgia. For others, fibromyalgia seems to occur


    spontaneously.

    Quoted message said:


    Many researchers are examining other causes, including problems with how
    the central nervous system (the brain and spinal cord) processes pain.

    Some scientists speculate that a person's genes may regulate the way his
    or her body processes painful stimuli. According to this theory, people
    with fibromyalgia may have a gene or genes that cause them to react
    strongly to stimuli that most people would not perceive as painful.
    However, those genes—if they, in fact, exist—have not been identified.

    (More information at the above site)

    George


    Thanks for posting this George.
    Em

  5. Quoted message said:

    <snip off-topic stuff>

    I think you posted this in the wrong newsgroup by mistake. This is
    alt.support.diet.low-carb.
    --
    Peter
    270/215/180
    Before/Current Pix:
    http://users.thelink.net/marengo/weightlosspix/weightlosspix.html

    There are folks out there that have fibromyalgia, and are also low carbing. So,
    no its not off topic. Not a mistake at all.

    Low carb dieting improves symptoms of fibromyalgia. If you don't like the post.
    You are more than welcome to delete it.

  6. "marengo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    George Parton wrote:
    |
    <snip off-topic stuff>

    I think you posted this in the wrong newsgroup by mistake. This is
    alt.support.diet.low-carb.
    --
    Peter
    270/215/180
    Before/Current Pix:
    http://users.thelink.net/marengo/weightlosspix/weightlosspix.html


    No, he didn't! No mistake. This was in response to something posted in
    Sunshyne's "Input please, support" thread.

  7. Fibromyalgia is what you have when you can't really identify what you have.
    Even my doctor agreed with that. I have a lot of pain from my waist down.
    If they can't diagnose anything specific then it might just be
    fibromyaligia. I didn't qualify, however, because I don't have any pain
    above my waste. With fibromyaligia you have to have some pain in the neck
    area and so on.

    Randy

    "George Parton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Clipped from the following location:

    http://www.niams.nih.gov/hi/topics/fibromyalgia/fibrofs.htm#fib_a

    What Is Fibromyalgia?

    Fibromyalgia syndrome is a common and chronic disorder characterized by
    widespread muscle pain, fatigue, and multiple tender points. The word
    fibromyalgia comes from the Latin term for fibrous tissue (fibro) and
    the Greek ones for muscle (myo) and pain (algia). Tender points are
    specific places on the body—on the neck, shoulders, back, hips, and
    upper and lower extremities—where people with fibromyalgia feel pain in
    response to slight pressure.

    Although fibromyalgia is often considered an arthritisrelated condition,
    it is not truly a form of arthritis (a disease of the joints) because it
    does not cause inflammation or damage to the joints, muscles, or other
    tissues. Like arthritis, however, fibromyalgia can cause significant
    pain and fatigue, and it can interfere with a person's ability to carry
    on daily activities. Also like arthritis, fibromyalgia is considered a
    rheumatic condition.

    You may wonder what exactly rheumatic means. Even physicians do not
    always agree on whether a disease is considered rheumatic. If you look
    up the word in the dictionary, you'll find it comes from the Greek word
    rheum, which means flux—not an explanation that gives you a better
    understanding. In medicine, however, the term rheumatic means a medical
    condition that impairs the joints and/or soft tissues and causes chronic
    pain.

    In addition to pain and fatigue, people who have fibromyalgia may


    experience

    Quoted message said:


    * sleep disturbances,
    * morning stiffness,
    * headaches,
    * irritable bowel syndrome,
    * painful menstrual periods,
    * numbness or tingling of the extremities,
    * restless legs syndrome,
    * temperature sensitivity,
    * cognitive and memory problems (sometimes referred to as "fibro
    fog"😉, or
    * a variety of other symptoms.

    Fibromyalgia is a syndrome rather than a disease. Unlike a disease,
    which is a medical condition with a specific cause or causes and
    recognizable signs and symptoms, a syndrome is a collection of signs,
    symptoms, and medical problems that tend to occur together but are not
    related to a specific, identifiable cause.

    Who Gets Fibromyalgia?

    According to a paper published by the American College of Rheumatology
    (ACR), fibromyalgia affects 3 to 6 million - or as many as one in 50 -
    Americans. For unknown reasons, between 80 and 90 percent of those
    diagnosed with fibromyalgia are women; however, men and children also
    can be affected. Most people are diagnosed during middle age, although
    the symptoms often become present earlier in life.

    People with certain rheumatic diseases, such as rheumatoid arthritis,
    systemic lupus erythematosus (commonly called lupus), or ankylosing
    spondylitis (spinal arthritis) may be more likely to have fibromyalgia,


    too.

    Quoted message said:


    Several studies indicate that women who have a family member with
    fibromyalgia are more likely to have fibromyalgia themselves, but the
    exact reason for this—whether it be hereditary or caused by
    environmental factors or both—is unknown. One study supported by the
    National Institute of Arthritis and Musculoskeletal and Skin Diseases
    (NIAMS) is trying to identify if certain genes predispose some people to
    fibromyalgia. (See What Are Researchers Learning About Fibromyalgia?)

    What Causes Fibromyalgia?

    The causes of fibromyalgia are unknown, but there are probably a number
    of factors involved. Many people associate the development of
    fibromyalgia with a physically or emotionally stressful or traumatic
    event, such as an automobile accident. Some connect it to repetitive
    injuries. Others link it to an illness. People with rheumatoid arthritis
    and other autoimmune diseases, such as lupus, are particularly likely to
    develop fibromyalgia. For others, fibromyalgia seems to occur


    spontaneously.

    Quoted message said:


    Many researchers are examining other causes, including problems with how
    the central nervous system (the brain and spinal cord) processes pain.

    Some scientists speculate that a person's genes may regulate the way his
    or her body processes painful stimuli. According to this theory, people
    with fibromyalgia may have a gene or genes that cause them to react
    strongly to stimuli that most people would not perceive as painful.
    However, those genes—if they, in fact, exist—have not been identified.

    (More information at the above site)

    George

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    guitarprincess said:

    So where's the part about it being the same as hypochondria? 🙂

    If only that was true. Then I'd know how to treat it. In the meantime,
    LC is the only regimen that helps. Well, for me but not every fibro
    patient.

    Aloha...Sue

  9. guitarprincess said:

    So where's the part about it being the same as hypochondria? 🙂

    And this is where what my wife calls the Fairness Fairy comes by and waves
    her wand and makes you live a week in the body of someone with
    fibromyalgia.

    Like other conditions that can cause pain and profound fatigue without
    many outward symptoms, and where one's condition can vary from day to day,
    sometimes the hardest struggle just to be taken seriously by doctors,
    friends, and even family.

    Dan
    325/211/180
    Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
    Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

  10. I was only kidding. There's just so much controversy on this subject.

    I know people who have been diagnosed with it. I know doctors who say it's a
    farce.

    I am in the healthcare industry.

    The doctors I know, say that the fibro symptoms are usually caused by other
    diseases and ailments, not "fibromyalgia".

    But I'm not a doctor, so I mock what I don't know🙂

    --
    Sheli

    "Sue Larkin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    guitarprincess said:

    So where's the part about it being the same as hypochondria? 🙂

    If only that was true. Then I'd know how to treat it. In the meantime,
    LC is the only regimen that helps. Well, for me but not every fibro
    patient.

    Aloha...Sue

  11. Quoted message said:

    Sheli wrote:
    The doctors I know, say that the fibro symptoms are usually caused by other
    diseases and ailments, not "fibromyalgia".

    Many people with fibromyalgia are actually misdiagnosed and find that they have
    a different disease. The symptoms are the same and so the doctors are at first
    confused.

    Those of us with fibro do wish that it is a misdiagnosis. So that we have
    something that is curable, instead of a chronic life-long disease of poor
    sleep, pain, fatigue, and cognitive dysfunction.

    Yvonne

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    guitarprincess said:

    I was only kidding. There's just so much controversy on this subject.

    I know people who have been diagnosed with it. I know doctors who say it's a
    farce.

    I am in the healthcare industry.

    The doctors I know, say that the fibro symptoms are usually caused by other
    diseases and ailments, not "fibromyalgia".

    Stress...physical and/or emotional...seems to be a common "cause". I'm
    fortunate to have a doc (rheumatologist) who is both knowledgeable
    about fibro AND supportive of me low carbing in lieu of drugs.

    Aloha...Sue

  13. In article <[email hidden]>, "Randy"

    ranjorathotmail.com said:

    Fibromyalgia is what you have when you can't really identify what you have.
    Even my doctor agreed with that. I have a lot of pain from my waist down.
    If they can't diagnose anything specific then it might just be
    fibromyaligia. I didn't qualify, however, because I don't have any pain
    above my waste. With fibromyaligia you have to have some pain in the neck
    area and so on.

    "Tender Points" seem to be the key. And many of them are above the
    waist. Possibly that's why you didn't qualify? Regardless, I hope you
    find the cause. Undiagnosed pain is such a...well...pain, isn't it.

    Aloha...Sue

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Cailleachschilde) said:

    Many people with fibromyalgia are actually misdiagnosed and find that they
    have
    a different disease. The symptoms are the same and so the doctors are at
    first
    confused.

    My doc said that fibro is diagnosed by ruling out other conditions such
    as lupus. There is no definitive lab test or xray for fibro but, the
    aforementioned "tender points" theory seems to be the closest the docs
    can come at this point.

    Quoted message said:

    Those of us with fibro do wish that it is a misdiagnosis. So that we have
    something that is curable, instead of a chronic life-long disease of poor
    sleep, pain, fatigue, and cognitive dysfunction.

    Yvonne...does low carbing help your symptoms?

    Aloha...Sue

  15. Sue,

    Elsewhere on this NG is a post I sent regarding Low-Carb and fibro. I
    have lupus and fibromyalgia (muscle pain) is one of the effects.
    Low-carb was and is endorsed by my medical professionals named in the
    other post. If I stray from good eating habits I pay dearly for the
    experience, both in weight and pain.
    Good luck,

    George

    "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's
    mouth and remove all reasonable doubt"!

    Sue Larkin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Cailleachschilde) said:

    Many people with fibromyalgia are actually misdiagnosed and find that they
    have
    a different disease. The symptoms are the same and so the doctors are at
    first
    confused.

    My doc said that fibro is diagnosed by ruling out other conditions such
    as lupus. There is no definitive lab test or xray for fibro but, the
    aforementioned "tender points" theory seems to be the closest the docs
    can come at this point.

    Quoted message said:

    Those of us with fibro do wish that it is a misdiagnosis. So that we have
    something that is curable, instead of a chronic life-long disease of poor
    sleep, pain, fatigue, and cognitive dysfunction.

    Yvonne...does low carbing help your symptoms?

    Aloha...Sue

  16. In article <[email hidden]>, George Parton <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Sue,

    Elsewhere on this NG is a post I sent regarding Low-Carb and fibro. I
    have lupus and fibromyalgia (muscle pain) is one of the effects.
    Low-carb was and is endorsed by my medical professionals named in the
    other post. If I stray from good eating habits I pay dearly for the
    experience, both in weight and pain.
    Good luck,

    George

    Thanks, George. Yes, I saw the other post. Several years ago I perused
    alt.med.fibromyalgia. I only lurked as that group is very intense. At
    least it was at that time. I haven't been back. I remember someone
    posting about their success with LC in AMF. The resultant flames were
    beyond cruel. It was that person's post that alerted me to the
    possibilities of LCing and fibro. I was pro low fat and anti low carb
    at the time but was willing to try anything.

    It's sad that all fibro sufferers can't have the same relief that LC
    gives you and me. It's definitely a YMMV thingie! I have the actual
    syndrome (FMS)...not just muscle pain. The sleep disorder that's part
    of the syndrome was/is the biggest issue for me. LC improves my sleep.
    Improved sleep improves all of my FMS symptoms. While that makes my doc
    happy, what he really likes is what LC does for my lab results!

    Aloha...Sue

  17. Quoted message said:

    It's sad that all fibro sufferers can't have the same relief that LC
    gives you and me. It's definitely a YMMV thingie! I have the actual
    syndrome (FMS)...not just muscle pain. The sleep disorder that's part
    of the syndrome was/is the biggest issue for me. LC improves my sleep.
    Improved sleep improves all of my FMS symptoms. While that makes my doc
    happy, what he really likes is what LC does for my lab results!

    Aloha...Sue

    My sleep is improving, somewhat. Its getting better and better. Others with FMS
    told me about Low Carb and how it improves FMS patients. Other diets suggested
    to me was the Zone, or The Suzanne Summers Diet.

    Someone a couple weeks ago, told me about a new testing for Fibro patients. Yet
    its not available in the US yet.

    Here is a link that describes it.

    http://www.autoimmune.com/FibromTest.html

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Sunshyne) said:

    http://www.autoimmune.com/FibromTest.html

    Very interesting. Thanks, Sunshyne.
    Aloha...Sue

  19. Quoted message said:

    Yvonne...does low carbing help your symptoms?

    Aloha...Sue

    Yes, very much so....at first. Then my symptoms came back with a vengence.
    Since then, I've been diagnosed with Celiac Disease and have cut out gluten
    entirely--my symptoms have decreased and I'm back to losing weight :0)

    I think sugar and HFCS causes my pain levels to intensify where painkillers
    don't help at all.

    I know a few people with fibro that have improved on a low carb diet.

    Yvonne

  20. Quoted message said:

    Sue Larkin wrote:
    Several years ago I perused
    alt.med.fibromyalgia. I only lurked as that group is very intense. At
    least it was at that time. I haven't been back. I remember someone
    posting about their success with LC in AMF. The resultant flames were
    beyond cruel. It was that person's post that alerted me to the
    possibilities of LCing and fibro. I was pro low fat and anti low carb
    at the time but was willing to try anything.

    Yes, I remember you. I go by the name Clue there (there's another Yvonne). It
    was a similar post that pointed me to this newsgroup. I had been low carbing
    successfully for several months before then, but still felt I needed more info
    and support.

    Quoted message said:

    It's sad that all fibro sufferers can't have the same relief that LC
    gives you and me. It's definitely a YMMV thingie! I have the actual
    syndrome (FMS)...not just muscle pain. The sleep disorder that's part
    of the syndrome was/is the biggest issue for me. LC improves my sleep.
    Improved sleep improves all of my FMS symptoms. While that makes my doc
    happy, what he really likes is what LC does for my lab results!

    It doesn't touch my sleep problem. But I'm not complaining because my pain
    levels are low enough for me to have a life now.

    Yvonne

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