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  1. I was suffering from high blood pressure for some months and none of
    the seven (7) doctors I went to see managed to take care of me. These
    doctors were trained in presitous schools such as Stanford. Some of
    them are in fancy hospitals like the HK Adventist Hospital while
    others operate their own private clinics and charge dearly.

    I recently ran into someone, a peasant looking doctor, who charged
    only US$1 per visit here in ShenZhen of China and he is taking good
    care of me. Simply by arranging the medicine regimen, he has done a
    super-job and helped me immensely. I was at the same time suffering
    from tinnitus too. The explanations of the cause of my tinnitus given
    by these 7 fancy doctors vary from high blood pressure to living on
    sky scrappers...or just 'psychological'.
    On the other hand, my peasant doctor who charges only US$1 per visit
    told me that my tinnitus is due to a 'weakened' kidney, which might
    have been caused by having too much sex without at the same time
    having the kidney nourished well. I subscribe to his explanation as
    everytime after having sex, my tinnitus comes. So I am going to
    abstain from sex for at least a month or more and at the same time do
    something about my kidney. A can of dark gennise stout is a good way
    to start! And this is universally available. No light beer, as light
    beer represents too much yin(showdowy, weak) energy at the time when
    the kidney is weak. If you could do without alcohol but have other
    ways to enrich your kidney, it might even be better.

    As someone whose specialty is in financial cycles, I do believe there
    are cycles in our individual lives. My experience suggests that when
    we are in an up cycle, even 'quacks' could take care of our health
    problems but the moment when we get into a downtrend in our life, even
    Harvard professors fail to do the job.

    So, what is a quack? A quack is someone who fails to take care of
    your health problem. Empiricism rules! The test of a pudding is in
    the eating!

    FP

  2. (francispoon) said:

    I was suffering from high blood pressure for some months and none of
    the seven (7) doctors I went to see managed to take care of me. These
    doctors were trained in presitous schools such as Stanford. Some of
    them are in fancy hospitals like the HK Adventist Hospital while
    others operate their own private clinics and charge dearly.

    I recently ran into someone, a peasant looking doctor, who charged
    only US$1 per visit here in ShenZhen of China and he is taking good
    care of me. Simply by arranging the medicine regimen, he has done a
    super-job and helped me immensely. I was at the same time suffering
    from tinnitus too. The explanations of the cause of my tinnitus given
    by these 7 fancy doctors vary from high blood pressure to living on
    sky scrappers...or just 'psychological'.
    On the other hand, my peasant doctor who charges only US$1 per visit
    told me that my tinnitus is due to a 'weakened' kidney, which might
    have been caused by having too much sex without at the same time
    having the kidney nourished well. I subscribe to his explanation as
    everytime after having sex, my tinnitus comes. So I am going to
    abstain from sex for at least a month or more and at the same time do
    something about my kidney. A can of dark gennise stout is a good way
    to start! And this is universally available. No light beer, as light
    beer represents too much yin(showdowy, weak) energy at the time when
    the kidney is weak. If you could do without alcohol but have other
    ways to enrich your kidney, it might even be better.

    As someone whose specialty is in financial cycles, I do believe there
    are cycles in our individual lives. My experience suggests that when
    we are in an up cycle, even 'quacks' could take care of our health
    problems but the moment when we get into a downtrend in our life, even
    Harvard professors fail to do the job.

    So, what is a quack? A quack is someone who fails to take care of
    your health problem. Empiricism rules! The test of a pudding is in
    the eating!

    FP

    Let me suggest that you seek out a one dollar psychiatrist -
    particularly for that post coital tinnitus -- that is unless it is the
    intensity of your screams that triggers the racket in your ears.

    ward

    -----------------------------------------------------
    "The people can always be brought to the bidding of
    the leaders. That is easy, tell them that they are
    being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of
    patriotism and for exposing the country to danger!"
    Herman Goering
    -----------------------------------------------------

  3. On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 0:37:17 -0500, francispoon wrote
    (in message <[email hidden]>😉:

    Quoted message said:

    On the other hand, my peasant doctor who charges only US$1 per visit
    told me that my tinnitus is due to a 'weakened' kidney, which might
    have been caused by having too much sex without at the same time
    having the kidney nourished well.

    You know, I think Chung mentioned seeing the same thing at the iMAX
    Institute of Dietology.

    Glad you are on you way to solving your problems.

    --
    God's Other Humble Servant

    Steve

  4. Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 0:37:17 -0500, francispoon wrote
    (in message <[email hidden]>😉:

    Quoted message said:

    On the other hand, my peasant doctor who charges only US$1 per visit
    told me that my tinnitus is due to a 'weakened' kidney, which might
    have been caused by having too much sex without at the same time
    having the kidney nourished well.

    You know, I think Chung mentioned seeing the same thing at the iMAX
    Institute of Dietology.

    Glad you are on you way to solving your problems.

    I hope so. The doctors that were trained in western medical science
    either don't subscribe to this explanation or have no opinion of that.
    But I do discover there is a cause and effect relationship for *my*
    tinnitus. The western doctors told me that high blood pressure is the
    cause of my tinnitus. But the herbs that are meant to enrich my
    kidney do raise my blood pressure a bit higher than normal and stop
    the tinnitus as long as the herbs effects are on. So who is right?

    FP

  5. Ward Stewart <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    (francispoon) said:

    I was suffering from high blood pressure for some months and none of
    the seven (7) doctors I went to see managed to take care of me. These
    doctors were trained in presitous schools such as Stanford. Some of
    them are in fancy hospitals like the HK Adventist Hospital while
    others operate their own private clinics and charge dearly.

    I recently ran into someone, a peasant looking doctor, who charged
    only US$1 per visit here in ShenZhen of China and he is taking good
    care of me. Simply by arranging the medicine regimen, he has done a
    super-job and helped me immensely. I was at the same time suffering
    from tinnitus too. The explanations of the cause of my tinnitus given
    by these 7 fancy doctors vary from high blood pressure to living on
    sky scrappers...or just 'psychological'.
    On the other hand, my peasant doctor who charges only US$1 per visit
    told me that my tinnitus is due to a 'weakened' kidney, which might
    have been caused by having too much sex without at the same time
    having the kidney nourished well. I subscribe to his explanation as
    everytime after having sex, my tinnitus comes. So I am going to
    abstain from sex for at least a month or more and at the same time do
    something about my kidney. A can of dark gennise stout is a good way
    to start! And this is universally available. No light beer, as light
    beer represents too much yin(showdowy, weak) energy at the time when
    the kidney is weak. If you could do without alcohol but have other
    ways to enrich your kidney, it might even be better.

    As someone whose specialty is in financial cycles, I do believe there
    are cycles in our individual lives. My experience suggests that when
    we are in an up cycle, even 'quacks' could take care of our health
    problems but the moment when we get into a downtrend in our life, even
    Harvard professors fail to do the job.

    So, what is a quack? A quack is someone who fails to take care of
    your health problem. Empiricism rules! The test of a pudding is in
    the eating!

    FP

    Let me suggest that you seek out a one dollar psychiatrist -
    particularly for that post coital tinnitus -- that is unless it is the
    intensity of your screams that triggers the racket in your ears.

    So are you suggesting that you have found the cause and effect
    relationship of my tinnitus, with whatever 'limited' knowledge we as
    humans have of 'science'?

    FP

    Quoted message said:


    ward

    -----------------------------------------------------
    "The people can always be brought to the bidding of
    the leaders. That is easy, tell them that they are
    being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of
    patriotism and for exposing the country to danger!"
    Herman Goering
    -----------------------------------------------------

  6. On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:35:48 -0500, francispoon wrote
    (in message <[email hidden]>😉:

    Quoted message said:

    Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 0:37:17 -0500, francispoon wrote
    (in message <[email hidden]>😉:

    Quoted message said:

    On the other hand, my peasant doctor who charges only US$1 per visit
    told me that my tinnitus is due to a 'weakened' kidney, which might
    have been caused by having too much sex without at the same time
    having the kidney nourished well.

    You know, I think Chung mentioned seeing the same thing at the iMAX
    Institute of Dietology.

    Glad you are on you way to solving your problems.

    I hope so. The doctors that were trained in western medical science
    either don't subscribe to this explanation or have no opinion of that.
    But I do discover there is a cause and effect relationship for *my*
    tinnitus. The western doctors told me that high blood pressure is the
    cause of my tinnitus. But the herbs that are meant to enrich my
    kidney do raise my blood pressure a bit higher than normal and stop
    the tinnitus as long as the herbs effects are on. So who is right?

    Francis,

    This is a cardiology group. You are unlikely to have your questions
    answered here. As Jim Chinnis mentioned, try alt.support.tinnitus
    instead.

    Good luck... it is a maddening illness.

    --
    God's Other Humble Servant

    Steve

  7. (francispoon) said:

    Ward Stewart <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    (francispoon) said:

    I was suffering from high blood pressure for some months and none of
    the seven (7) doctors I went to see managed to take care of me. These
    doctors were trained in presitous schools such as Stanford. Some of
    them are in fancy hospitals like the HK Adventist Hospital while
    others operate their own private clinics and charge dearly.

    I recently ran into someone, a peasant looking doctor, who charged
    only US$1 per visit here in ShenZhen of China and he is taking good
    care of me. Simply by arranging the medicine regimen, he has done a
    super-job and helped me immensely. I was at the same time suffering
    from tinnitus too. The explanations of the cause of my tinnitus given
    by these 7 fancy doctors vary from high blood pressure to living on
    sky scrappers...or just 'psychological'.
    On the other hand, my peasant doctor who charges only US$1 per visit
    told me that my tinnitus is due to a 'weakened' kidney, which might
    have been caused by having too much sex without at the same time
    having the kidney nourished well. I subscribe to his explanation as
    everytime after having sex, my tinnitus comes. So I am going to
    abstain from sex for at least a month or more and at the same time do
    something about my kidney. A can of dark gennise stout is a good way
    to start! And this is universally available. No light beer, as light
    beer represents too much yin(showdowy, weak) energy at the time when
    the kidney is weak. If you could do without alcohol but have other
    ways to enrich your kidney, it might even be better.

    As someone whose specialty is in financial cycles, I do believe there
    are cycles in our individual lives. My experience suggests that when
    we are in an up cycle, even 'quacks' could take care of our health
    problems but the moment when we get into a downtrend in our life, even
    Harvard professors fail to do the job.

    So, what is a quack? A quack is someone who fails to take care of
    your health problem. Empiricism rules! The test of a pudding is in
    the eating!

    FP

    Let me suggest that you seek out a one dollar psychiatrist -
    particularly for that post coital tinnitus -- that is unless it is the
    intensity of your screams that triggers the racket in your ears.

    So are you suggesting that you have found the cause and effect
    relationship of my tinnitus, with whatever 'limited' knowledge we as
    humans have of 'science'?

    FP

    No. I am suggesting that you are a nutter, offering us very flimsy
    "testimonial" evidence.

    ward
    -----------------------------------------------------
    "Battledore and shuttlecock's a wery good game, vhen
    you ain't the shuttlecock and two lawyers the
    battledores, in which case it gets too excitin' to
    be pleasant."
    Sam Weller
    -----------------------------------------------------

  8. Ward Stewart <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    (francispoon) said:

    Ward Stewart <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 8 Dec 2003 21:37:17 -0800, [email hidden] (francispoon) wrote:

    >I was suffering from high blood pressure for some months and none of
    >the seven (7) doctors I went to see managed to take care of me. These
    >doctors were trained in presitous schools such as Stanford. Some of
    >them are in fancy hospitals like the HK Adventist Hospital while
    >others operate their own private clinics and charge dearly.
    >
    >I recently ran into someone, a peasant looking doctor, who charged
    >only US$1 per visit here in ShenZhen of China and he is taking good
    >care of me. Simply by arranging the medicine regimen, he has done a
    >super-job and helped me immensely. I was at the same time suffering
    >from tinnitus too. The explanations of the cause of my tinnitus given
    >by these 7 fancy doctors vary from high blood pressure to living on
    >sky scrappers...or just 'psychological'.
    >On the other hand, my peasant doctor who charges only US$1 per visit
    >told me that my tinnitus is due to a 'weakened' kidney, which might
    >have been caused by having too much sex without at the same time
    >having the kidney nourished well. I subscribe to his explanation as
    >everytime after having sex, my tinnitus comes. So I am going to
    >abstain from sex for at least a month or more and at the same time do
    >something about my kidney. A can of dark gennise stout is a good way
    >to start! And this is universally available. No light beer, as light
    >beer represents too much yin(showdowy, weak) energy at the time when
    >the kidney is weak. If you could do without alcohol but have other
    >ways to enrich your kidney, it might even be better.
    >
    >As someone whose specialty is in financial cycles, I do believe there
    >are cycles in our individual lives. My experience suggests that when
    >we are in an up cycle, even 'quacks' could take care of our health
    >problems but the moment when we get into a downtrend in our life, even
    >Harvard professors fail to do the job.
    >
    >So, what is a quack? A quack is someone who fails to take care of
    >your health problem. Empiricism rules! The test of a pudding is in
    >the eating!
    >
    >FP

    Let me suggest that you seek out a one dollar psychiatrist -
    particularly for that post coital tinnitus -- that is unless it is the
    intensity of your screams that triggers the racket in your ears.

    So are you suggesting that you have found the cause and effect
    relationship of my tinnitus, with whatever 'limited' knowledge we as
    humans have of 'science'?

    FP

    No. I am suggesting that you are a nutter, offering us very flimsy
    "testimonial" evidence.


    And thus by your logic, you are also a nutter, having not asked for
    further verification of evidence. No?

    FP

    Quoted message said:

    ward
    -----------------------------------------------------
    "Battledore and shuttlecock's a wery good game, vhen
    you ain't the shuttlecock and two lawyers the
    battledores, in which case it gets too excitin' to
    be pleasant."
    Sam Weller
    -----------------------------------------------------

  9. "Steve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:35:48 -0500, francispoon wrote
    (in message <[email hidden]>😉:

    Quoted message said:

    Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 0:37:17 -0500, francispoon wrote
    (in message <[email hidden]>😉:

    > On the other hand, my peasant doctor who charges only US$1 per visit
    > told me that my tinnitus is due to a 'weakened' kidney, which might
    > have been caused by having too much sex without at the same time
    > having the kidney nourished well.

    You know, I think Chung mentioned seeing the same thing at the iMAX
    Institute of Dietology.

    Glad you are on you way to solving your problems.

    I hope so. The doctors that were trained in western medical science
    either don't subscribe to this explanation or have no opinion of that.
    But I do discover there is a cause and effect relationship for *my*
    tinnitus. The western doctors told me that high blood pressure is the
    cause of my tinnitus. But the herbs that are meant to enrich my
    kidney do raise my blood pressure a bit higher than normal and stop
    the tinnitus as long as the herbs effects are on. So who is right?

    Francis,

    This is a cardiology group. You are unlikely to have your questions
    answered here. As Jim Chinnis mentioned, try alt.support.tinnitus
    instead.

    Good luck... it is a maddening illness.

    --
    God's Other Humble Servant

    Steve

  10. Maddening initially (but not life threatening). But, things work out ok,
    after some time.

    Steve said:

    On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:35:48 -0500, francispoon wrote
    (in message <[email hidden]>😉:

    Quoted message said:

    Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 0:37:17 -0500, francispoon wrote
    (in message <[email hidden]>😉:

    > On the other hand, my peasant doctor who charges only US$1 per visit
    > told me that my tinnitus is due to a 'weakened' kidney, which might
    > have been caused by having too much sex without at the same time
    > having the kidney nourished well.

    You know, I think Chung mentioned seeing the same thing at the iMAX
    Institute of Dietology.

    Glad you are on you way to solving your problems.

    I hope so. The doctors that were trained in western medical science
    either don't subscribe to this explanation or have no opinion of that.
    But I do discover there is a cause and effect relationship for *my*
    tinnitus. The western doctors told me that high blood pressure is the
    cause of my tinnitus. But the herbs that are meant to enrich my
    kidney do raise my blood pressure a bit higher than normal and stop
    the tinnitus as long as the herbs effects are on. So who is right?

    Francis,

    This is a cardiology group. You are unlikely to have your questions
    answered here. As Jim Chinnis mentioned, try alt.support.tinnitus
    instead.

    Good luck... it is a maddening illness.

    --
    God's Other Humble Servant

    Steve

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