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  1. This is a bit of an experiment based on things I've noticed in the
    cycling community since I started riding a year ago.

    What do you all think you know about me based on my bike: A 2006 Trek
    1500. I'm not asking you to guess what I do for a living or junk like
    that, but rather stuff about me as a cyclist. How serious am I as a
    cyclist? How important is this to me? How often do I ride? Etc..
    Etc.. Etc.

    I think the guesses will be telling. Later, I'll give the real answers
    and why I'm curious to hear your guesses.

  2. "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is a bit of an experiment based on things I've noticed in the
    cycling community since I started riding a year ago.

    What do you all think you know about me based on my bike: A 2006 Trek
    1500. I'm not asking you to guess what I do for a living or junk like
    that, but rather stuff about me as a cyclist. How serious am I as a
    cyclist? How important is this to me? How often do I ride? Etc..
    Etc.. Etc.

    I think the guesses will be telling. Later, I'll give the real answers
    and why I'm curious to hear your guesses.

    What size frame?

  3. Paul said:

    This is a bit of an experiment based on things I've noticed in the
    cycling community since I started riding a year ago.

    What do you all think you know about me based on my bike: A 2006 Trek
    1500. I'm not asking you to guess what I do for a living or junk like
    that, but rather stuff about me as a cyclist. How serious am I as a
    cyclist? How important is this to me? How often do I ride? Etc..
    Etc.. Etc.

    I think the guesses will be telling. Later, I'll give the real answers
    and why I'm curious to hear your guesses.

    Double or triple up front?

    You suffer from having enough common sense to not think that stepping
    up to a carbon fiber frame and Shimano Dura Ace grouping will matter
    much and that dropping your body weight from 245 lbs to 195 lbs is far
    more important than having a 10th ring in the back that only has 11
    teeth on it.

    You haven't quite yet been able to hang with the A group on the LBS
    club rides, but enjoy the ride with the B group in the 16-17 mph range.

    The razor has not been used anywhere except for your face.

    how's that for starters?

    -bdbafh

  4. Frank Drackman said:

    "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This is a bit of an experiment based on things I've noticed in the
    cycling community since I started riding a year ago.

    What do you all think you know about me based on my bike: A 2006
    Trek 1500. I'm not asking you to guess what I do for a living or
    junk like that, but rather stuff about me as a cyclist. How serious
    am I as a cyclist? How important is this to me? How often do I
    ride? Etc.. Etc.. Etc.

    I think the guesses will be telling. Later, I'll give the real
    answers and why I'm curious to hear your guesses.

    Quoted message said:

    What size frame?

    And color?

  5. Quoted message said:

    Double or triple up front?

    Triple. Where I live is referred to as the Hill Country. Folks have
    been known to fall off their bikes going uphill.

    Quoted message said:

    You suffer from having enough common sense to not think that stepping
    up to a carbon fiber frame and Shimano Dura Ace grouping will matter
    much and that dropping your body weight from 245 lbs to 195 lbs is far
    more important than having a 10th ring in the back that only has 11
    teeth on it.

    You haven't quite yet been able to hang with the A group on the LBS
    club rides, but enjoy the ride with the B group in the 16-17 mph range.

    The razor has not been used anywhere except for your face.

    how's that for starters?

    I have renewed faith in the cycling community. :-) This is all true
    except for the weight part.. I'm already as fit as I can be
    weight-wise without getting too light. I'm one of those converts to
    cycling who loves it so much I'd live on my bike if I could. But you
    won't see me in the bike shop buying new parts. I'm planning my next
    ride, not my next bike.

    Am I supposed to want a better bike? I suppose. Would that make me a
    "serious" cyclist? I doubt it. Are there others like me around here?
    Am I what's known as a "Fred"? Or am I the opposite?

  6. "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Double or triple up front?

    Triple. Where I live is referred to as the Hill Country. Folks have
    been known to fall off their bikes going uphill.

    Quoted message said:

    You suffer from having enough common sense to not think that stepping
    up to a carbon fiber frame and Shimano Dura Ace grouping will matter
    much and that dropping your body weight from 245 lbs to 195 lbs is far
    more important than having a 10th ring in the back that only has 11
    teeth on it.

    You haven't quite yet been able to hang with the A group on the LBS
    club rides, but enjoy the ride with the B group in the 16-17 mph range.

    The razor has not been used anywhere except for your face.

    how's that for starters?

    I have renewed faith in the cycling community. :-) This is all true
    except for the weight part.. I'm already as fit as I can be
    weight-wise without getting too light. I'm one of those converts to
    cycling who loves it so much I'd live on my bike if I could. But you
    won't see me in the bike shop buying new parts. I'm planning my next
    ride, not my next bike.

    Am I supposed to want a better bike? I suppose. Would that make me a
    "serious" cyclist? I doubt it. Are there others like me around here?
    Am I what's known as a "Fred"? Or am I the opposite?

    Hey, I know let's all talk about, mmmm YOU for a change.

  7. Paul said:

    Am I supposed to want a better bike? I suppose. Would that make me a
    "serious" cyclist? I doubt it. Are there others like me around here?
    Am I what's known as a "Fred"? Or am I the opposite?

    Screw "serious", it's supposed to be fun.
    As long as you're enjoying whatever cycling discipline you're
    currently following is all that counts.
    There are myriad ways to participate in cycling. Try 'em all.
    --
    zk

  8. Paul said:

    This is a bit of an experiment based on things I've noticed in the
    cycling community since I started riding a year ago.

    What do you all think you know about me based on my bike: A 2006 Trek
    1500. I'm not asking you to guess what I do for a living or junk like
    that, but rather stuff about me as a cyclist. How serious am I as a
    cyclist? How important is this to me? How often do I ride? Etc..
    Etc.. Etc.

    It's a Trek: You are serious enough to have bought a real bike, but
    the brand choice could have been made for numerous reasons including
    (but not limited to) having seen that Lance Armstrong rode Treks,
    having seen lots of other riders on treks, having direct experience
    with the product line, or having read reviews in magazines or online.

    It's a road bike, but not a high-end unit: If you're new to cycling,
    you might have greater aspirations than experience, but you didn't buy
    a 1500 for its snob appeal...or if you did, the guys with the Madones
    are now snickering about your cheap POS. If you're an experienced
    cyclist, I would guess that you won't be using this bike for
    competitive events. You would presumably not have spent this much to
    leave it sitting at home; it might be for commuter, recreational or
    training usage, but as it's not so specialized as to predicate a
    specific type of riding, it's hard to draw much in the way of
    conclusions about the frequency or method of usage.

    Anybody with the coin could buy a 1500. A poseur would have bought
    something fancier (and carbon), IMO, so I'll hazard a guess that
    you're either a newbie or a relatively serious (though perhaps just
    occasional and/or recreational) cyclist. Beyond that, you could be a
    hermaphrodite with a Flock Of Seagulls haircut, only one nostril and a
    lucky glow-in-the-dark snorkel fetish, for all I can tell.
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  9. Paul said:
    Quoted message said:

    Double or triple up front?

    Triple. Where I live is referred to as the Hill Country. Folks have
    been known to fall off their bikes going uphill.

    Quoted message said:

    You suffer from having enough common sense to not think that stepping
    up to a carbon fiber frame and Shimano Dura Ace grouping will matter
    much and that dropping your body weight from 245 lbs to 195 lbs is far
    more important than having a 10th ring in the back that only has 11
    teeth on it.

    You haven't quite yet been able to hang with the A group on the LBS
    club rides, but enjoy the ride with the B group in the 16-17 mph range.

    The razor has not been used anywhere except for your face.

    how's that for starters?

    I have renewed faith in the cycling community. :-) This is all true
    except for the weight part.. I'm already as fit as I can be
    weight-wise without getting too light. I'm one of those converts to
    cycling who loves it so much I'd live on my bike if I could. But you
    won't see me in the bike shop buying new parts. I'm planning my next
    ride, not my next bike.

    Am I supposed to want a better bike? I suppose. Would that make me a
    "serious" cyclist? I doubt it. Are there others like me around here?
    Am I what's known as a "Fred"? Or am I the opposite?

    tell me about your bike computer.

    (the part about dropping from 245 to 195 lbs was actually me (shocker)
    - and I sprung for the carbon fiber frame a year ago. for century rides
    - it pays off).

    My idea of a bike race is a big screen tv and a very hoppy beverage.

    -bdbafh

  10. Grolch said:

    "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Double or triple up front?


    Triple. Where I live is referred to as the Hill Country. Folks have
    been known to fall off their bikes going uphill.

    Quoted message said:

    You suffer from having enough common sense to not think that stepping
    up to a carbon fiber frame and Shimano Dura Ace grouping will matter
    much and that dropping your body weight from 245 lbs to 195 lbs is far
    more important than having a 10th ring in the back that only has 11
    teeth on it.

    You haven't quite yet been able to hang with the A group on the LBS
    club rides, but enjoy the ride with the B group in the 16-17 mph range.

    The razor has not been used anywhere except for your face.

    how's that for starters?


    I have renewed faith in the cycling community. :-) This is all true
    except for the weight part.. I'm already as fit as I can be
    weight-wise without getting too light. I'm one of those converts to
    cycling who loves it so much I'd live on my bike if I could. But you
    won't see me in the bike shop buying new parts. I'm planning my next
    ride, not my next bike.

    Am I supposed to want a better bike? I suppose. Would that make me a
    "serious" cyclist? I doubt it. Are there others like me around here?
    Am I what's known as a "Fred"? Or am I the opposite?

    Hey, I know let's all talk about, mmmm YOU for a change.


    This is not about me, but the general shape one has to be in to be a
    good rider. I am 5'7" and got down to 140 pounds a few years back and
    was feeling fine. My wife told me I looked like a WWII Nazi POW and my
    neighbors all thought that I had cancer or something. I finally gave up
    and gained some weight back just to not have to listen to all the bull.
    Any body else have this 'problem' with other people's perception?
    Bill Baka

  11. Werehatrack said:

    but you didn't buy
    a 1500 for its snob appeal...or if you did, the guys with the Madones
    are now snickering about your cheap POS.

    No, I didn't assume I was getting a fancy bike, but I'll tell you this:
    The day I bought the 1500 I could have easily bought a Madone. I had
    the money in the bank. But that wasn't my bike budget. Does that mean
    cycling must not be THAT important to me? No! I don't necessarily
    vote for what I love by spending my account to zero for it. And do *I*
    snicker about folks on lesser bikes than mine? No! Well, if it's a
    Huffy I might feel sorry for them, but if I'm on a group ride and
    someone has a Trek 1000, I do not think to myself, "Oh, that bike will
    only take them through a few months before they outride it".

    Quoted message said:

    it's hard to draw much in the way of
    conclusions about the frequency or method of usage.

    75-90 miles per week (I want to ride much more, of course), mostly for
    fitness/training and also I commute to work twice a week, treating that
    as fitness/training/fun as well. Preparing for a LiveStrong century
    later this year, then MS150 next year. Thinking about joining a club
    of some sort, but not belonging to anything yet.

    Quoted message said:

    A poseur would have bought
    something fancier (and carbon), IMO, so I'll hazard a guess that
    you're either a newbie or a relatively serious

    Or both? I've been riding for a year now. Started out on a hybrid
    before I figured out that it was inappropriate for what I was doing.
    Didn't buy a road bike until I was fast enough on the hybrid to hang
    with the occasional road-biker.

  12. Quoted message said:

    tell me about your bike computer.

    You have me there - I haven't put one on yet as I'm rather torn about
    what to get. Part of me doesn't want extraneous stuff on my bike, but
    the part of me that's getting into training needs the stats. Do I get
    cadence or just learn a good cadence on the trainer and get a regular
    speedo computer? Wireless? That's nice, but my wife's has had trouble
    occasionally..

  13. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A poseur would have bought
    something fancier (and carbon), IMO, so I'll hazard a guess that
    you're either a newbie or a relatively serious

    Or both? I've been riding for a year now. Started out on a hybrid
    before I figured out that it was inappropriate for what I was doing.
    Didn't buy a road bike until I was fast enough on the hybrid to hang
    with the occasional road-biker.

    Because? The benefits of a road bike are there whether someone can "hang
    with the occasional road-biker" or not. Not quite sure what this thread is
    all about; kinda reminds me of one of our customers who rides a whole lot of
    miles but won't invest in a nicer bike, because he doesn't "need" to. Well,
    that's entirely true! You don't "need" an expensive bike to enjoy what
    cycling has to offer. That doesn't mean you wouldn't appreciate the benefits
    though. I bring this up because this particular customer insists he loves
    spending every moment he can on his bike, and dislikes time in his car. His
    fancy, new-every-three-years very-expensive car.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Werehatrack said:

    but you didn't buy
    a 1500 for its snob appeal...or if you did, the guys with the Madones
    are now snickering about your cheap POS.

    No, I didn't assume I was getting a fancy bike, but I'll tell you this:
    The day I bought the 1500 I could have easily bought a Madone. I had
    the money in the bank. But that wasn't my bike budget. Does that mean
    cycling must not be THAT important to me? No! I don't necessarily
    vote for what I love by spending my account to zero for it. And do *I*
    snicker about folks on lesser bikes than mine? No! Well, if it's a
    Huffy I might feel sorry for them, but if I'm on a group ride and
    someone has a Trek 1000, I do not think to myself, "Oh, that bike will
    only take them through a few months before they outride it".

    Quoted message said:

    it's hard to draw much in the way of
    conclusions about the frequency or method of usage.

    75-90 miles per week (I want to ride much more, of course), mostly for
    fitness/training and also I commute to work twice a week, treating that
    as fitness/training/fun as well. Preparing for a LiveStrong century
    later this year, then MS150 next year. Thinking about joining a club
    of some sort, but not belonging to anything yet.

    Quoted message said:

    A poseur would have bought
    something fancier (and carbon), IMO, so I'll hazard a guess that
    you're either a newbie or a relatively serious

    Or both? I've been riding for a year now. Started out on a hybrid
    before I figured out that it was inappropriate for what I was doing.
    Didn't buy a road bike until I was fast enough on the hybrid to hang
    with the occasional road-biker.

  14. Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Not quite sure what this thread is
    all about; kinda reminds me of one of our customers who rides a whole lot of
    miles but won't invest in a nicer bike, because he doesn't "need" to.

    What this is about: I've noticed since getting into cycling that
    cycling is (to *many* people) a shopping experience more than it is a
    fitness or fun or competitive experience. It is a method of disposing
    of excess cash and available credit. And I don't think it should be
    that way, is what I am saying. Oh yes, you DO want to make sure you
    buy quality and not junk. You want your shifters to shift and your
    brakes to brake. And you don't want it to weigh 30 pounds.

    But beyond that? Isn't it just a pissing match? Isn't it just the
    usual discontent the typical American consumer feels when he realizes
    theres a more expensive (insert item here) available, and he can now
    afford it, so why doesn't he have it? Why wait for something to wear
    out from use when you can just Ebay or Craiglist it and "move up",
    thereby cementing your reputation as a "serious" cyclist?

  15. "Bill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Grolch said:

    "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:

    > Double or triple up front?
    Triple. Where I live is referred to as the Hill Country. Folks have
    been known to fall off their bikes going uphill.

    > You suffer from having enough common sense to not think that stepping
    > up to a carbon fiber frame and Shimano Dura Ace grouping will matter
    > much and that dropping your body weight from 245 lbs to 195 lbs is far
    > more important than having a 10th ring in the back that only has 11
    > teeth on it.
    >
    > You haven't quite yet been able to hang with the A group on the LBS
    > club rides, but enjoy the ride with the B group in the 16-17 mph range.
    >
    > The razor has not been used anywhere except for your face.
    >
    > how's that for starters?
    I have renewed faith in the cycling community. :-) This is all true
    except for the weight part.. I'm already as fit as I can be
    weight-wise without getting too light. I'm one of those converts to
    cycling who loves it so much I'd live on my bike if I could. But you
    won't see me in the bike shop buying new parts. I'm planning my next
    ride, not my next bike.

    Am I supposed to want a better bike? I suppose. Would that make me a
    "serious" cyclist? I doubt it. Are there others like me around here?
    Am I what's known as a "Fred"? Or am I the opposite?

    Hey, I know let's all talk about, mmmm YOU for a change.


    This is not about me, but the general shape one has to be in to be a good
    rider. I am 5'7" and got down to 140 pounds a few years back and was
    feeling fine. My wife told me I looked like a WWII Nazi POW and my
    neighbors all thought that I had cancer or something. I finally gave up
    and gained some weight back just to not have to listen to all the bull.
    Any body else have this 'problem' with other people's perception?
    Bill Baka

    Yeah yeah, I did the same some 15 years ago, went from 185 to 142. I thought
    it was all fitness too, my efforts and all. Then over a two year period I
    gained, slowly. I couldn't stop this slow gain all the way up to 175 again.
    I finally went to see my doctor. Turns out I am Hypothyroid (too little go
    juice). The doctor theorized that at the time of my "extreme" weight loss my
    thyroid gland likely was in a state of hyperthyroid (too much go juice). So
    rather than credit yourself with your extreme fitness and self control, go
    see your doctor and ask for a TSH test (cheap test).

  16. Paul said:
    Quoted message said:

    tell me about your bike computer.

    You have me there - I haven't put one on yet as I'm rather torn about
    what to get. Part of me doesn't want extraneous stuff on my bike, but
    the part of me that's getting into training needs the stats. Do I get
    cadence or just learn a good cadence on the trainer and get a regular
    speedo computer? Wireless? That's nice, but my wife's has had trouble
    occasionally..

    If you're a geek, you can't beat the Garmin Edge 305 HR.
    It has wireless heart rate monitoring (I have the alarm set for 190
    betas/minute), wireless cadence. You can upload the data to
    motionbased.com and export .kml files into Google Earth.

    If not, check ebay for used models.
    my starter computer lacked wireless anything ... its sitting in a
    ziplock bag, awaiting a new home somewere.

    -bdbafh

  17. "Sorni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Frank Drackman said:

    "Paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This is a bit of an experiment based on things I've noticed in the
    cycling community since I started riding a year ago.

    What do you all think you know about me based on my bike: A 2006
    Trek 1500. I'm not asking you to guess what I do for a living or
    junk like that, but rather stuff about me as a cyclist. How serious
    am I as a cyclist? How important is this to me? How often do I
    ride? Etc.. Etc.. Etc.

    I think the guesses will be telling. Later, I'll give the real
    answers and why I'm curious to hear your guesses.

    Quoted message said:

    What size frame?

    And color?

    Not fair, you stole my next question

  18. Paul said:
    Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    Not quite sure what this thread is
    all about; kinda reminds me of one of our customers who rides a whole lot of
    miles but won't invest in a nicer bike, because he doesn't "need" to.

    What this is about: I've noticed since getting into cycling that
    cycling is (to *many* people) a shopping experience more than it is a
    fitness or fun or competitive experience. It is a method of disposing
    of excess cash and available credit. And I don't think it should be
    that way, is what I am saying. Oh yes, you DO want to make sure you
    buy quality and not junk. You want your shifters to shift and your
    brakes to brake. And you don't want it to weigh 30 pounds.

    But beyond that? Isn't it just a pissing match? Isn't it just the
    usual discontent the typical American consumer feels when he realizes
    theres a more expensive (insert item here) available, and he can now
    afford it, so why doesn't he have it? Why wait for something to wear
    out from use when you can just Ebay or Craiglist it and "move up",
    thereby cementing your reputation as a "serious" cyclist?

    You're skating dangerously close to a kind of reverse snobbery- "Your
    bike is more expensive than mine so you must be a poser and just trying
    to impress others". I've invested what I think is a significant amount
    of money in bikes, especially in my road bike, both in initial purchase
    prices and subsequent upgrades. I also have tons of jerseys and shorts
    as well as three pairs of cycling shoes. I don't think of riders that
    have less money wrapped up in their bikes as being less "serious" than
    me, just less fortunate. As for how they view me, the best piece of
    advice I ever heard regarding people's opinions of any other individual
    was simply, "Never worry about what others think of you. They don't do
    it that often."

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

  19. Paul said:

    This is a bit of an experiment based on things I've noticed in the
    cycling community since I started riding a year ago.

    What do you all think you know about me based on my bike: A 2006 Trek
    1500. I'm not asking you to guess what I do for a living or junk like
    that, but rather stuff about me as a cyclist. How serious am I as a
    cyclist? How important is this to me? How often do I ride? Etc..
    Etc.. Etc.

    I think the guesses will be telling. Later, I'll give the real answers
    and why I'm curious to hear your guesses.

    First the brand: the fact that bought a trek possible a tell. You have
    owned one before, or you know someone who has one, or you like that it's
    the Brand L.A. rode in the TdF.

    Second the model: tells me have ridden other bikes in the past and that
    the road bikes where more to your liking than other types. But you
    didn't see the need to spend more than a couple of grand on a ride.

    You may or may not ride with groups.

    You probably aren't the fastest rider you know.

    You like the feeling of riding.

    You don't bother to shave more than your face.

    Ken
    --
    Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea

  20. Bob said:

    You're skating dangerously close to a kind of reverse snobbery- "Your
    bike is more expensive than mine so you must be a poser and just trying
    to impress others".

    Yeah, I think you're right, actually. I should probably unwind myself
    a bit and just ride. :-) I think I was just getting irritated at
    people coming up to my bike in my cubicle at work and immediately
    checking my rear derailleur (sp?) and picking up the bike to weigh it.

    Well, I'd be off to ride right this minute, but it's raining. <pulling
    out the trainer...>

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