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  1. Hi guys,

    I bought this bike in a somewhat decent, yet unoperational condition for $100, but i cannot tell for sure what it is.
    I gathered a bunch of photos and i hope for your advice to figure out the mystery ?

    Here they are, and thank you so much !!!
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  2. You have a vintage Kent! That;s and old, low-end model with the crappy Huret Svelto rear derailleur which replaced the even more crappy Huret Alvit model. The Svelto was introduced in 1963 and yours is a second style that was introduced in 1965 and was found on bikes built into the early to mid 1970's. Your bike looks to be unmolested and fairly original.

    Your Weinmann brakes will be date stamped on the back side of the 'Y'-shaped arm; month and year.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_International

    Modern Kent bikes: http://www.kentbicycles.com/

    Remove that kickstand and rack, clean and polish the paintwork and alloy, lubricate and adjust the mechanical components, re-tape the handlebars and perhaps install a NOS period saddle and you will have a nice old road machine! This level of bike sold for $100-$150 when new and were intended for college students, 'around town commuting' and short distance cruising...not to say that a few were used on long charity rides and such back then.

    Worth? Not much...maybe $100-$150 when restored! The fun is in owning and riding such a nice, old machine.

  3. I FTA:

    I love that chainring setup! I have a 1974 Schwinn Paramount with a 49-52 / 14-26 factory configuration. Those old close-ratio gear combos made climbing the tough hills only for the most fit riders.

  4. CampyBob, thanks a bunch,

    Appreciate the info !!!!!!
    I will probably work on it slowly in my garage, according to the plan you've kindly outlined !

    Thanks again,
    A.

  5. Quote: Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB [IMG]/img/forum/go_quote.gif[/IMG]
    I FTA:

    I love that chainring setup! I have a 1974 Schwinn Paramount with a 49-52 / 14-26 factory configuration. Those old close-ratio gear combos made climbing the tough hills only for the most fit riders.

    Half-step gearing, not for wimps. I like the Huret Svelto derailleur, so cheap and stupid-simple but very effective and durable.

  6. "Half-step gearing, not for wimps."

    Yeah, grab levers, shift fast and pray you have the legs...

    I ordered my 1974 Paramount with Campy's then new bar end friction levers (that before the knowledge of Loctite CONSTANTLY loosened up and required tightening before every ride) to help with fast shifts. In the hilly up & down terrain I live in you either were in good climbing condition or dead meat.

    "I like the Huret Svelto derailleur, so cheap and stupid-simple but very effective and durable."

    Svelto and durable are two words I never used in the same sentence. The parallelogram pivot points loosened under use...hard shifting or ham fingered riders need not apply. I hammered on a couple of them to tighten them back up. The 2-dimensional parallelogram was somewhat prone to twisting. I have to agree they were much sturdier than the nylon series of Simplex [censored] we all cursed at and the Svelto was much better at actual shifting than the horrible Alvit model. And the Svelto was light! At least the second version was... That attribute, alone, earned it a place on some very good framesets.

    I used a Svelto on and off for a summer.

    I do have a vague, smoke clouded dorm room memory of digging a bent and twisted Svelto out of the spokes of some Raleigh of a friend...

    From Disraeli Gears:

    For me the Huret Svelto is as much a part of the late 1960’s and early 1970’s as men walking on the moon, the three day week, Frank Zappa’s Hot Rats and Lord Anthony snorkel parkas with rabbit fur around the hood. Was it all a strange dream?

    Damn...I even had a milsurp parka!

  7. Quote: Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB [IMG]/img/forum/go_quote.gif[/IMG]

    Svelto and durable are two words I never used in the same sentence. The parallelogram pivot points loosened under use...hard shifting or ham fingered riders need not apply. I hammered on a couple of them to tighten them back up. The 2-dimensional parallelogram was somewhat prone to twisting. I have to agree they were much sturdier than the nylon series of Simplex [censored] we all cursed at and the Svelto was much better at actual shifting than the horrible Alvit model. And the Svelto was light! At least the second version was... That attribute, alone, earned it a place on some very good framesets.

    Well still a damned sight better than the Allvit or the Luxe Touring.

    My memory of the Svelto is admittedly myopic. My sister's Mercier that had one was stolen before the stamped steel twisted and the pivots loosened. But my memory of the Luxe Touring was even shorter. I replaced that SOB with a Simplex Prestige after a spring semester of dropped and tangled chains.

  8. "Well still a damned sight better than the Allvit"

    Yeah. A dried pile of poodle [censored] was better than an Alvit. God, did those thing suck. A Campy Gran Sport rod shifter had to function better. I never had the honor of using a Luxe Touring...piece of French [censored] that it was. I did, however, get to dig one of those out of a wheel also.

    I can't believe it was the 1970's...we had walked on the moon, had Sony Walkmans and STILL were finding stupid French [censored] like the Huret and Simplex [censored] being sold here. Even the Spanish had way better Zeus and Triplex Sport gears. Lordy was Huret retarded junk.

    My older brother made the decision to buy a Simca (French POS car). A decision only an accountant could come up with. It was cheap. So cheap it did not last two years. Yeah, Simca was the Huret of cars. Absolute trash.

    After owning an Alvit on a Schwinn Continental and Simplex on a Peugeot POS PY-10, I started buying Campagnolo and never looked back.

  9. Quote: Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB [IMG]/img/forum/go_quote.gif[/IMG]
    My older brother made the decision to buy a Simca (French POS car). A decision only an accountant could come up with. It was cheap. So cheap it did not last two years. Yeah, Simca was the Huret of cars. Absolute trash.

    Remember Le Car by Renault?

  10. Yes. The Le Car was really a piece of Le [censored]. Just when you thought it was impossible to build a car that was worse than a Vega...Just when you thought no country on the planet could possibly slap together something even less reliable than a Fiat 128...along comes Rain-no with the self-destructing pile-o-steel & plastique to capture the flag.

    It took a decade of time and a failed commie country before 'The Yugo' (an ex-commie built Fiat 128) wrestled the title away from the French...temporarily. The goal was a lofty one for the Yugoslavians as they were long accustomed to building high quality firearms, but they should be praised for their automotive success.

    I also remember the Great Leap Forward Huret made when they unleashed the "Multito" upon the cycling Tourons, Dweebs and Freds of America.. In the typical French drive to recreate memorable...no...epic! oddball engineering designs and claim it as new and revolutionary and totally original, they gave us the silent, belt-drive cyclometer. The one that left you hoping you could find a rubber band of the correct size to get it working again after you lost the original, broke the original or wound the whole contraption around your fork. The one that more Americans ran off the road and over cliffs while trying read while in motion.

  11. I owned a Fiat 128 once. Had it a year. Bought it with 14K on the clock, sold it a year later with 16K on it. It once ran for 3 weeks straight without breaking down.

    Every cable in it was made from overcooked spaghetti. You could use the heater/defroster once. If you shut it down, the next time you tried to put it on, the cable would just stretch. That was it. That, and the fact that the wiper fuse would blow with more than 3 snowflakes on the windshield made it undriveable in the winter, in the northeast. Driving to my girlfriend's house on day, I put the clutch in, and the pedal stayed on the floor. Linkage snapped. My girlfriend was a real lightweight. Maybe 115 pounds soaking wet. She loved driving a stick, so one night I let her drive to the movies. She sat on the edge of the seat to tie her sneaker, and the next thing I know, she and the seat were both laying in the parking lot. The bolts holding it to the floor just snapped. I can imagine what would have happened in any kind of an accident.

    Luckily, my uncle was a mechanic, and as an added bonus, he could speak and read Italian schematics, so he was able to keep that absolute of [censored] running, at least temporarily. We sized the seat for me, and he welded it to the floor. I don't know whether I ever let anyone sit in the passenger seat afterwards.

    Yeah, I was ready to run out and buy a Yu-dont-go when I learned that it was a re-badged 128.

    And if you're flying to Europe, and want to see something that re-defines the term cluster [censored], try making a tight connection at Charles de Gaulle airport, if you have to change terminals. JFK at its worst was a model of efficiency by comparison.

  12. "It once ran for 3 weeks straight without breaking down."

    Did you ever check the glovebox?...probably not...the door would have fallen off. I'm guessing you had the rare '128 Limited Edition'. There was always a copy of the Pope's blessing included in the glove box. If the door made it thru shipping to America.

    No way any 128 ever ran 21 consecutive days. You had to have owned two identical 128's and your brain has, mercifully, induced amnesia regarding that sad fact.

    Ask me about the external fuel pump electrical wires...and how driving thru 4"-5" of slush (occurs often here during winter) rips the pump's wires off. Leaving you stranded. And laying in 4"-5" of slush. Trying to rewire the fuel pump with frozen fingers. Because the heater controls didn't work either.

    The 128 made my Triumphs and MGB-GT and Sunbeam look as reliable as a '67 Nova 4-door with a stovebolt six and Powerglide.

  13. Yes, but the French also gave us rims by Mavic and Wolber (Super Champion), and the superb Look Nevada ski binding. And Dynamic VR17s.

  14. We called them 'Woblers' for good reason. The rims were weak (in their defense, most brands were, back then) and the tires were some of the trashiest I ever ran. I switched to Fiammes (also junk), Nisi (pretty much junk) and Ambrosios (now, we're getting somewhere!). I still have a bunch of Gold Label track rims in the other house that are supposed to weigh 260 grams on the lie-o-meter. Kids these dayz...they might think the carbon gurus invented the 'pulled out of my ass' weight numbers, but we know better!

    As soon as Campy started selling rims, I started lacing them to my Campy hubs. I think I used the back side of a Fiat 128 glove box door to hold the loose nipples.

    Campy Omega and Strada Hardox were some of the best rims I used. Damn, could they take a pounding!

    Mavic was acceptable, even on an Eyetalian bike, but don't let the Pope ever hear of our transgressions. I've been using junk assed Aksiums for training, forgive me Father, but I just can't kill the things no matter how I ride them.

  15. I think I opened the glove box exactly twice. Once to put my registration in, the last time, to take it out after I conned some poor sucker into taking Il Porco off my hands. It survived two openings and closing, so I guess I had one made on a Wednesday.

  16. mpre53, be glad you didn't own an 850 (punched out 600). The local drag race between the early 25 and 36 HP VW's and the buddy that had a father adventurous looney tunes enough to have bought an 850 for the family were hysterical.

    There was no Fiat dealer within 50 miles and the POS was on the back of a tow truck more than was driven.

    We had a Canadian pastor move down here. He went to the same undergrad school I did as he worked on his divinity degree. Anyway, he brought down this Peugeot sedan from Canuckistan...505...404...I forget the model. I can not tell you guys how often we spotted that uniquely fugly pile of broken down unreliable junk along the road. Between the road salt and only one mechanique in a 100-mile radius that could cuss in French, he finally came to his senses and junked it.

    Then...there was was semi-wealthy local business owner with a Citroen sedan that just had to have that bizzaro Citroen-Maserati comglomeration. Yeah...THERE"S a combination for a winner! An unreliable Eyetalian engine mated to one of the quirkiest, fugliest, expensive to maintain, least reliable French cars on the planet. I remember a conversation with him that went something like this, "Why in the name of Sam Hell did those stupid (insert name of amphibian here) build a suspension system that cost $3,000 to repair every six months?!?!". He managed to drive it for almost two years on and off before something terminal happened to it or he finally tired of paying out huge amounts of money to keep it running. It ended up sitting behind his business for a few more years. He bought a second, wrecked C-M...for repair parts I would assume. Soon, both had sat for another decade, unmoving and rapidly turning to junk. One day they were just 'gone'.

  17. I also once owned one of the legendary Chrysler K-cars. Can't even remember whether it was a Plymouth or a Dodge, but if I had to guess, I'd say it was a Dodge Aspen. In addition to burning oil like a 2-stroke, it ate voltage regulators regularly. The saving grace was that it also had a voltmeter, and I learned to carry a spare in the trunk at all times. As soon as I noticed it starting to discharge, I'd pull over and swap it out, and pick up a replacement at the first parts store I saw, before I forgot. One screw held it to the firewall, so it was about a one minute job. Useful life of about 1000 miles. Still many more times reliable than the Fix-It-Again-Tony.

    Thankfully, I've never had the bad judgment to even consider a French car. Especially a Citroen. Why would anyone ever consider buying a make of car that translates to "Lemon"?

  18. Voltage regulator? Do you mean the black electro-mechanical voltage regulator to the left of the finger in the picture or the white ceramic ballast resistor to the right of the finger?

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    I drove tow truck for a while and my glove box was stuffed with $5 (price back in the day) ballast resistors that I sold to stranded Chrysler drivers for $10. Those generally lasted anywhere from 6 months to 2 years. Humidity and moisture penetrated the micro cracks in the ceramic, then freeze and cause the cracks to grow and allow voltage leaks/resistance change and...inevitable failure of the charging or starting system.

  19. The one on the left.

  20. Damn, that the expensive one!

    My electrical problems are firmly rooted in Lucas, Price of Darkness.

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    See the MGB with its hood up in the background? Typical MG pose. And in the garage when photographed? Just as typical.

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